Adding Optical Drive to MDD

Hi, I'm finally getting around to replacing the power supply and fan from the "wind tunnel" and would like to install an additional CDRW. I looked at the optical drive carrier and the lower bay has a metal plate in the front. Do i just force it out, or is there some clever, smooth way to make that happen?? Also, how do I select which drive opens with the eject button and how do I then open the drive that doesn't open with the eject button?? Sorry, after installing a backup hard drive, thought i was on a roll Thanks in advance, Dan

To the expert contributors, this may sound like deja vu all over again, but, given the similarity of my configuration and what I'm considering, it seems like the correct place to continue a thread started a few years ago at: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=581660, where replies are no longer allowed, since the topic has been archived.
Like the original poster, I have a PowerMac G4 with mirrored doors, two internal hard drives, and two Apple-installed optical drives: a SuperDrive and a ComboDrive. I am now thinking about buying a DVD-RAM burner, and I wish to explore my options and ask for viewpoints on the optimal way to go.
Given the current state of the market, I have narrowed down my choices to the LG GSA 4167B and the Panasonic SW-9585, each of which comes from the original manufacturer as an IDE / ATAPI drive. Based on reviews I've read at CDFreaks.com and at hardwarezone.com, the drives are rated very good (LG) and good (Panasonic), so I could go with either one of them at this point.
I have also located two vendors who have packaged those drives in FireWire enclosures. Advice I have received in another forum informs me to make sure that the converter chipset ("bridge") used in the FireWire enclosure is Oxford, not Prolific, to ensure compatibility with a Mac. The vendor for the LG drive uses a Belkin FireWire, which fortunately contains the Oxford chipset, but the jury is out on the Panasonic vendor, who has to check with the supplier of his Firewire enclosures.
Of course, there is an additional cost to get the drives in a FireWire enclosure, but that is not the issue or the obstacle. I am partial to the added functionality and flexibility offered by a portable FireWire drive instead of a fixed internal drive, so I have expended a lot of effort to identify suitable drives that also are available in FireWire devices. However, since this is a good time to consider an upgrade to my currently installed optical drives, specifically, the ComboDrive, I am asking for input on which option would be most efficient, most productive, and most trouble-free from all aspects.
I am not necessarily scared of opening the PowerMac G4 and replacing the optical drive (if it's not going to turn into a messy or impossible task!), but I also want to avoid converting my currently very stable, high functioning configuration into a zone of technical problems by introducing a "foreign" (i.e., non-Apple) element into its gut.
Additionally, I have concerns about the physical installation problems I might encounter by trying to install a different optical drive into the space so comfortably designed by Apple for its own products. Experience tells me that there always an unknown glitch around the corner, like something that won't fit properly, or a face plate on the LG or Panasonic drive that won't come off, etc.
So, before I make my purchase, I just thought I'd float out these thoughts to see if anyone who has been there and done that might have some words of wisdom of which course of action --the FireWire path (with its possible incompatibility due to a converter bridge), or the internal drive path (with its possible problems occurring in the physical installation phase and later in any software/hardware conflicts with the Mac OS).
bowlerboy_JMB
PowerMac G4 Mirrored Doors. Mac OS X (10.3.9) 2 GB RAM. 2 hard drives. SuperDrive; ComboDrive. LaCie DVD burner. LaCie FireW drive.

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I've have just added a second optical drive to my MP,
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system profiler. I'v left the original apple
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