Additional appearance option for cross-references

There should be a way to leave off the "preamble" part ("Figure", "Table", etc) of a paragraph number in a cross-reference. So instead of writing things like "As shown in Figure 5 through Figure 9...." we could write "As shown in Figures 5 through 9....." i.e. the cross refence would just be the numbers 5 and 9 without the word "Figure" that ID4 now considers to be part of the paragraph number.
A viable alternative would be to allow paragraph numbers to appear in the interior of the paragraph rather than only at the beginning. Then figure captions could be written with the word "Figure" as part of the text, followed by the purely numeric figure number, then followed by more text comprising the rest of the caption. Then a crossreference would only pick up the number without the word "Figure".

Exactly. They're deselected, thus my question. So to get back to my original post, it looks like the designers of CS4, even though they have provided 19,762 options for searching (plus those in cross-references), none of the options will allow you to start at the front of a book and find each cross-reference in turn to check that they jump to the right page.
Sometimes I think that the designers of InDesign really haven't got into the spirt of Book. They've offered it, but half-heartedly. But that will be the subject of another post.
So, I'll repeat my question: is it possible to search for cross-references?

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Hi,
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Some options I've thought of are:
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If UOM is also changed with qty then old & new UOM should be available in CDHDR & CDPOS.
If not then display current UOM.
This logic will fail if UOM is also changed several times without changing Qty, which normally does not happen. So you can confirm with business, if this much info is enough.
Making logic to work in case UOM is also changed several times, would require quite complex logic & will affect performance badly.

How to fix crashing when PDF and procedure for cross reference?

I'm using Frame 8. When I try to PDF my book, Frame crashes. I have tried PDFing the individual chapters, but that didn't work.
Also, I'm trying to create either a cross reference or hyperlink. I have a paragraph that says "For more information, see the Setup section in Chapter 1" The Setup section in chapter 1 is a heading 4. I've tried using the instructions in the Frame help, but I don't understand them, and I don't know whether I need a hyperlink or a cross reference. Can I get simpler explanation and how-to?
Thanks!

Several things could be causing the crashing during the PDF creation process.
1. Have you applied the MS hotfix mentioned here?
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2009/07/repost_hotfix_for_framemaker.html
2. In your PDF Setup, make sure that you have Tagged PDF turned off and in the Links panel enable "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs".
Try it again and also make sure that you have applied all of the FM8 patches in sequence.
You can use either cross-references or hypertext links to create the jumps, though cross-refs are easier to do and maintain.
1. To insert a cross-ref to the Chapter 1 Setup section, you first would need to have Chapter 1 open along with the document that you are currently working on.
2. At the location where you want to insert the cross-reference, select the Special > Cross-Reference menu option.
3. For the first time that you use a cross-reference, you have create a format for it. In your case the "For more information, see the" and "section in" are constant strings and the section name "Setup" and "Chapter 1" are the variables.
 a) Click on the "Edit Format" button in the Reference section towards the bottom of the window. This will open a new dialogue window allowing you to create a format for use.
 b) In this window, give the format a name so that you can easily identify it, such as "More info in Chapter section".
 c) Then you have to enter in the "Defintion" line what you want the cross-ref to say, which could be (without quotes) "For more information, see the <$paratext> section in <$paranum[Chapter]>." The items in the angled brackets are building blocks used by FM to pick up content from the specified destination when you make the cross-ref. The first one <$paratext> specifies to grab the content of the paragragh that you point to (in this case it should be "Setup" section heading. The <$paranum[Chapter}> item will grab the autonumber value from the Chapter tag (or use whichever one that you have for chapter numbering at the start of each chapter).
 d) Once you're satisfied with your format, click on the Add and then Done buttons. This will save thgis format in the cross-ref catalog.
4. To actually insert the cross-ref, select the target document (e.g. Chapter 1) from the drop down list for "Dcoument:".
5. Then under the Source Type (the down arrow below the Document), make sure that you have Paragraphs selected.
6. In the left column you will see the paratags available in the Chapter 1 document.
7. Pick the paratag type that contains the Setup section title (heading 4 ?).
8. In the right-hand column you should then see all of the heading 4 tags in Chapter 1.
9. Select the Setup in this column.
10. Check that the Format line shows the one that you created earlier ("More Info in Chapter Section") and then click on the Insert button.
You're done.
If you don't like the formatting or it's picking up the wrong content, then open the cross-ref dialogue again and edit the format to get what you want.

InDesign Tagged Text for Cross-reference Entries

I'm transforming XML to InDesign Tagged Text. The XML has index codes. For regular page entry type entries I'm having no problem outputting to the appropriate InDesign Tagged Text markup. However, I cannot figure out how to code cross-reference type entries. The document "Using Adobe InDesign Tagged Text CS5 Tagged Text" is extremely limited in its usefulness as it does not list all possible values for tag type tags, etc. I've tried dozens of tag combos and guesses at values. None have worked. Also, for some reason, even though I can create a "See x" type reference in the InDesign document, when I export to InDesign Tagged Text to look at the code, those tags are not included in the export.
Does anyone have a more definitive list of possible IDTT index tag values?

I have been exporting various things to IDTT to see what the result would be, with nothing really helpful as a result. I'll try hyperlinks, but reading of the Adobe guide to InDesign Tagged Text and also just looking at the InDesign scripting object model leads me to believe that there must be specific tags to create index-specific cross-reference tags.

Additional payment options for Family Sharing I wish....

I was not aware that each purchase would be billed to my credit card regardless of my iTunes balance. I knew I would be paying for all purchases, but not being able to use my account balance to pay it is extremely annoying. Prior to Family Sharing being available all their devices were under my id. So any gift cards they received were redeemed under my account. Now I have their money and can't use it to buy their things.
My mistake for not following every link on the Family Sharing info page, but I read that I would be charged for purchases. I thought it would be the same way as any purchase I made (balance, then credit card).....
I wish:
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Tminutes,
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How can this be possible instead of either Aqua or Gray?

MobileDev wrote:
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Apple's iPhone Warranty is referring to hardware modifications, because it is just a hardware warranty. It explicitly denies covering software, even to the point of saying even the iPhone OS is not covered by any warranty.
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Cross Reference Sources appearing in Story Editor view but not appearing in the Cross Ref pane

I have imported a Word document containing working cross references into an InDesign document. The vast majority of these cross references import correctly and link to their destinations within the document, however there are some that are not working. If I view the text frame in the story editor view, I can see these "broken" cross reference sources that came in from the Word doc but on selecting them I can see that there isnt a corresponding entry for it in the cross reference pane. As said, there are only a few that are behaving like this.
What could be causing these not to appear in the cross reference pane?
Obviously as they are not appearing in the list of cross references I can't update them, and also, as they are technically broken cross references, because a source exists for them but there is no corresponding entry in the pane, then on export to epub, InDesign crashes (If there is one broken cross reference in a document, export to Epub will crash indesign).
Also, to clarify, in the Word doc if I navigate to a cross reference that is failing once in InDesign, I can update it properly, and also navigate to its destination in the Word doc, so it's not as though these cross references are broken before coming into InDesign. Also I believe the destinations for these "broken" cross references are coming across properly to indesign too as I can see them in the story editor view.
Supposed Cross Reference source selected in Story Editor view on left, but no corresponding cross reference highlighted in pane on right:
Technical Details:
InDesign CS5.5 - Version 7.5.3
Microsoft Word 2010, File type .docx

I have found the possible cause of this problem!
If a table is used within the Word document somewhere between where the cross reference source is and its destination then that particular cross reference will be broken as described above in my initial post.
So the "fix" is to remove any occurances of a table in the Word document and the cross references come into InDesign perfectly. This is actually not a fix at all. I need to use tables in the Word document for layout purposes so if they break cross references if they stand between them and their destinations then I have to compromise, i.e. use tables but with no cross references in the document or vice versa.
I found a similar issue recently with index markers in Word causing a shift on the cross reference tags when bought into InDesign. The "fix" again for that was to remove all index markers from the Word document. See post about this here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1043981
InDesign really needs to sort out the issues with importing of Word documents with cross references in them. If I can't use index markers and tables in a Word document without breaking its cross references then they can't claim to have the ability to import a Word document while maintaining its cross references into an InDesign document. It just doesnt work as ive painstakingly proven.

Cross-Reference using Text Anchor problems

I am having problems with creating "New Cross-Reference" using a "Text Anchor" in CS4 Indesign.
I can mimic what I want using a "Link to Paragraph", selecting the paragraph style and link, and then using the "Partial paragraph and Page Number" options.
I would prefer doing this using a Text Anchor.
I've tried creating a text hyperlink, but in whatever I am doing, I never get any "Text Anchor" OPTIONS in the New Cross-Reference menu.
Adobe should also change the Text Anchor menu item, since there are "Text Anchor" options in InDesign that appear to have nothing to do with Cross-Referencing.
The other problem I am having is that in defining the open-quote and closed-quotes around the Paragraph Text variable, I wish to have typesetter's quotes instead of the default vertical quotes. If I use the Splat button to choose ^{^} options, then I get funky "G"'s in my reference instead of typesetters quotes -- even if I choose a "Character Sytle for Cross Reference" and force it to my current font choice. What's going on here?
SC

Hi, Seir:
I agree that it's confusing. Here's how I do it:
To create a text anchor at the insertion point location:
* Open the Hyperlinks/Cross-References panel's menu (also called "flyout menu." It's the small icon at the upper-right of the panel, below the double-arrow (>>) icon that collapses the panel.
* Choose New Hyperlink Destination. THIS SHOULD BE NAMED NEW TEXT ANCHOR!!!
* Choose Type: Text Anchor
* Name the anchor as you like Click OK.
To create a cross-reference to a text anchor:
* Place the insertion point where you want it.
* Click the Create new Cross-Reference button on the bottom of the Hyperlinks/Cross-Reference panel.
* Choose Link To: Text Anchor
* Choose the target document
* Choose the text anchor
* Choose the Cross-Reference format
* Choose Appearance properties
* Click OK
I'm not sure what could cause the straight/curly quotes problem other than perhaps the font doesn't have curly quotes. Have you tried other fonts?
HTH
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Updating numbered Cross references crashes InDesign in both CS6 and CS4

I have a large medical journal that has over a hundered references, which I cross-referenced with the thinking that the client may well insert or amend the refernces. I was correct and now the customer has several references to go in I have updated the first in its numbered list at the end and gone to "update cross-refernce" and InDesign crashes. I have tried this in CS6 and CS4 but both crash.

This happens often, particularly with cross-references across documents that are managed with an InDesign book file. One common suggestion, in addition to updating the installed software with the latest patches, is to open all the files in the book before updating; this may or may not always succeed. Search this forum for cross-reference crash to see other suggested solutions.
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HTH
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Peter
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mccoole1 wrote:
I have a large medical journal that has over a hundered references, which I cross-referenced with the thinking that the client may well insert or amend the refernces. I was correct and now the customer has several references to go in I have updated the first in its numbered list at the end and gone to "update cross-refernce" and InDesign crashes. I have tried this in CS6 and CS4 but both crash.

Cross-reference destination

Hi,
I would like to set destination for cross-reference to paragraph style like I do when I click on cross-reference options. On options screen I have a list of paragraph styles, but I don't get how to do that in script(JS).
Thnx

I finnaly achieved what I wanted. I did it in stupidest possible way, but it works. I iterated through all paragraphs and than if that paragraph had style that i was searching for I linked it with corss reference. Here is my code for 3 crossreferences I had to re-link:
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Most of the major cross reference issues have been resolved in TCS 2 with further improvements in TCS 3.
Please ensure that you have all the patches of TCS 2 installed on your system.
If the issue is still there, there could be an altogether different reason for cross reference not working or the issue might have been fixed in TCS 3.
The reason or workaround can be analysed once the sample files with the issues are provided.
It will be great if you could share a small sample FM document containing the cross reference and target having the issue. If the cross reference is across documents, then a FrameMaker book along with its FM files can be shared in a zip format.
You can mail the documents to me at magrawalATadobeDOTcom
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Cross reference stream

Hello!
I'm in real trouble, and I think that the answer is very close to me, but I can't get it by myself...
Here is my problem:
I'm currently improving the PDF parser that I've made, adding support for cross reference streams. After a careful reading of the ISO 32000 specification (with PDF 1.7 in background), I've wrote a piece of code that decode the stream and build the corresponding objects (I use Java).
But the decoded values are meaningless, and I don't understand why!
The data are like that:
filter predictor: 12
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fields length : 1 2 1 (this is the W entry values)
column size : 4
I assume that there is one color per pixel formed by one byte.
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I think I missed out something as I read incorrect data as entry type 18...
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Cross-Reference update

It would be great to have a better interface for Cross-References.
1. Don't reset the source everytime Insert is pressed.
This is seriously annoying if you want to insert a bunch of references over and over. You have to reselect the Document and scroll down the list of paragraphs.
2. Improve the Go to Source view.
If the Cross-Reference is similar to other sources it is dificult to know which one you are selecting. Imagine a table with numbers in it and several cells have the same value. You can't easily figure out what you are referencing. Maybe a preview window would be better?

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Trying to create a partial text cross reference using the suggested code:
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Ideas?
Thanks.

@Sandee – after experimenting a bit with all kinds of quotes, I find the syntax for cross references a bit strange.
Here is a screen shot from my German InDesign CS5.5 v7.5.3. on OSX 10.6.8.
It is showing the code for "Full Paragraph and Page Number" by *default*.
Note the curly opening and closing quotes in German style.
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<pageNum />
The code is still correct, if you are not using quotes at all in this example…
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Is it possible to create a list of used/unused cross-reference formats?
I've been able to create a list of paragraph tags used in a book file, which was very helpful in my current project. I was hoping there would be something similar for the user-defined cross-reference formats. I've also created a list of the cross-references, but I'm looking for a list of the actual formats.
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PamelaAnnG wrote:
Is it possible to create a list of used/unused cross-reference formats?
I've been able to create a list of paragraph tags used in a book file, which was very helpful in my current project. I was hoping there would be something similar for the user-defined cross-reference formats. I've also created a list of the cross-references, but I'm looking for a list of the actual formats.
Using FM10, unstructured
Hi, Pamela:
Search Google for "squidds AND FrameMaker" with quotes and capital AND to find their commercial Toolbox tool that seems to claim it can do this. It's not cheap, however.
The free way is to:
* Save a FrameMaker file with FIle > Save As > MIF.
* Search Google for terms like "FrameMaker MIF manual online pdf" without quotes, and search within it for "cross-reference formats" without quotes to see how the formats are encoded.
* Search Google for "mifbrowse.zip" to find a tool that can help you find the term in a FrameMaker file you save as MIF. Open mifbrowse and use File > Open to locate the MIF file, or drag the MIF file from a Windows Explorer window into mifbrowse's left pane. Click Search and type in the term you've found in the MIF manual, that identifies the beginning of the collected formats.
* Copy and paste the format definitions. You may need to translate some of the notations in the formats. I can't remember where to look for them, but if you have trouble, start a new thread with some of the puzzling notations and ask where to find translations.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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