Additional Ethernet ports on Airport Extreme Base Station

I would like to know how one could add additional Ethernet ports to an Airport Extreme Base Station - I need 6 ethernet ports.
Is it possible to daisychain two Airport Express Base Stations so that all computers can see each other, or is it best to buy an ethernet switch?
If the latter is the answer, hardware recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks

Is it possible to daisychain two Airport Express Base Stations so that all computers can see each other, or is it best to buy an ethernet switch?
It would be best (cheapest) to use an Ethernet switch instead of getting a second wireless router with a built-in switch.
If the latter is the answer, hardware recommendations would be appreciated.
A 4-8 port model from any of the name brand vendors should do just fine. An example would be the Linksys SD2008.

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    I don't want anything extraordinary. I think what I have to set up is pretty simple.
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    Now I have managed to delete all but my directly connected USB printers in the Print & Fax area of my System Preferences. What gives?
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  • Please help me connect eMac, cable modem, and Airport Extreme Base Station

    I connected Ethernet cord from cable modem to Airport Extreme Base Station and then another Ethernet cord from Airport Extreme Base Station to eMac, but I could not get internet access on my eMac that way. I'm only getting internet access by directly connecting eMac to cable modem. Can someone please help me with a step by step explanation of how to set these 3 machines up so that I can have internet access on both my eMac and, wirelessly, on my new MacBook. Thank you very much in advance.
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    eMac & MacBook   Mac OS X (10.3)  
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    jenngee, Welcome to the discussion area!
    Ensure that you power off the cable modem for a minute or so when you switch it to another Ethernet device.
    Ensure that you are connecting the WAN port of the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) to the cable modem. The eMac should connect to the LAN port.
    The steps for setting this up can be found in the "Designing AirPort Networks" (direct PDF link) document. Look through that document and try to get it setup. Then return here if you have more questions. Don't forget to post what you tried and the issues you encountered.

  • How to add Ethernet ports to an Airport Extreme Base Station?

    I have successfully connected an HP Office Jet 6310 to the Airport Extreme Base Station, after downloading the latest software from HP. It is printing wirelessly, and it is great so far.
    The only problem is that the cable modem connected to ADSL has only one Ethernet port, and the Airport Extreme Base Station also has one Ethernet port. However, I need one more port to connect a phone (Vonage Telephone Adapter = VTA).
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    Thank you in advance for your time.
    MacBook Pro with 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo   Mac OS X (10.4.7)  

    One final vital piece of information, which should be my conclusion on this topic.
    Following the advice received, I purchased a Switch from Linksys. Since the device didn't work for my purpose (dividing the Ethernet connexion into an Ethernet line for the HP printer and the Vonage phone), I called the Linksys support.
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    Finally, today, I have been able to find the item corresponding to my needs:
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    It costs less than 50 US$ and has all the necessary Ethernet ports. The setup is very simple, and I got it operational within a couple of minutes, despite some small problems getting the setup Wizard to work. It is Mac OS X compatible.
    Thus, at the end, I have got the HP 6310 Office printer and the Vonage VTA phone working together, with a robust Wireless network including WPA security. I would recommend this type of setting.
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    The unexpected reply to my query could thus be ironically formulated by saying: "replace the Airport Extreme Base Station with a cheaper an more efficient device." Sorry for that!
    With my best regards to those who took the trouble to read this thread to the end.
    Yours, Hotaru

  • Have 2 airport extreme base stations connected in chain.  Airport utility shows slave unit without power. However, power is on slave unit, but status lights do not show up at all. Small green lights at each back port blink.  Anyone have any ideas?

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    Unfortunately, you are describing the symptoms of an AirPort Extreme with a failing (or failed) internal power supply.
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  • Using the WAN port as a "LAN" port on the Airport Extreme Base Station...

    Hi everyone,
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    slugoo wrote:
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    As the title suggests...
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  • What's the most recent opinion about Time Machine backups to Hard Drives connected to the USB port on the Airport Extreme Base Station (5th generation)?

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    5) Now it should appear in Time Machine. Remember to exclude any large files like Virtual Machines, since they will be re-backed-up (is that a word?) every time it changes in any way.
    6) Remember that the first backup (over WiFi) is the longest. Leave the computer alone during this period.
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  • How do I set up a wireless network with an AirPort Extreme base station and two airport extreme but between apple devices either by ethernet

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    This Apple support document provides good general information on configuring different types of neworks using multiple AirPort routers.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145
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  • Printer and AirPort Extreme Base Station with Gigabit Ethernet

    Hello!
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    Hi
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  • How do I find a hard drive connected to Airport Extreme Base Station?

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    Hello Timothy Uhl. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
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    o Guest Access: <Not allowed | Read only | Read and write>
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    o Advertise disks globally using Bonjour: (unchecked)
    o Workgroup: <Windows workgroup name>
    o WINS server: <WINS server IP address>

  • Solution to Airport Extreme Base Station + Airport Express networking probs

    I've been investigating this for 3 straight days after inadvertently destabilizing my network. There are tons of posts discussing a variety of issues, all of which seem related. My goal here is to provide links to other relevant posts and explain what I ended up doing to get things to work.
    First, the background. You can skip below to SOLUTION if you don't really care... However, I highly recommend you take the time to read everything, as you'll get other useful information in the BACKGROUND section. I'm guessing many of you have similar, related problems so BACKGROUND might help provide context (and solutions) to some things you are seeing...
    MY SETUP:
    AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) of type b/g (round one, not square one), connects to the cable modem, and creates a WDS network that is then shared across two standard AirPort Express (AEX) units (100megabit, not the gigabit ones). One AEX serves as a relay unit that accepts clients, the other serves as a remote unit that also accepts clients. The intent is to show a single network throughout the house and let users log on to one network and move between networking units without having to switch from network to network.
    I have a variety of networked devices throughout the house all running on the same network (2 Mac Pros, a Powerbook G4, a Mac Mini, an Apple TV, a Windows XP laptop, two iPhones, two wifi printers, and a 5-unit Sonos system, plus the AEBS and two AEXs). Yeah, I'm a geek.
    The Mac Pros are both running 10.4.11, and the Powerbook is running 10.5.2.
    AEBS is running firmware 5.7
    AEXs are running firmware 6.3
    All Macs were initially accessing configs via the recently released AirPort Utility 5.3.1. More on that later.
    BACKGROUND:
    I've had this network setup working for about a year now. Recently, I've been having poor network performance problems and came to the conclusion it was a LAN problem (ie. problem with my home network, as opposed to with my ISP). Upon initial investigation, I began by looking at my networking logs (via AirPort Utility 5.3.1). You get to those by selecting the unit in question, choosing "Manual Configuration", the selecting the "Advanced" tab up top with the "Logging and SNMP" sub-tab. Click the "Logs and Statistics" button therein for log details from that unit.
    The first thing I noticed was "Administrative access denied to ff80::xxxxxxxxx" messages - a lot of them. I didn't recognize the ff80:: address in question, and so became concerned it was someone outside the network trying to hack one (or all) of the AEBS/AEX units. You can see threads discussing that investigation here:
    "Hack or panic?" - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1438486
    "Administrative access denied" - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1438865
    Long and short of it is that the recent AirPort Utility 5.3.1 release (current as of March 13) seems to have problems (keychain) when attempting to access the AEBS and AEX units. The "Administrative access denied" logs actually refer to the client machine you are using when you try to read the logs. The ff80::xxxxxx address is simply the IPv6 address for the machine you are using; if you turn off IPv6 on your client machine, that address should switch over to begin showing a regular IP address instead (something like 10.0.1.xxx), which makes it easier to associate the IP to the machine. I explain how to deactivate IPv6 on both Tiger (10.4.x) and Leopard (1.5.x) here:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6814978#6814978
    Anyway, in the process of investigating the "Administrative access denied" problem, I began tinkering with my AEX settings. Specifically, I ended up performing a hard factory reset (unplug unit, plug back in while holding down the little button with paper click/pen for ~10-15 seconds until light flashes green 4x then reverts to amber/yellow/orange). I began reconfiguring my entire WDS network using the newly updated AirPort Utility 5.3.1, and that's when the trouble started.
    (If you are having problems seeing either your AirPort Extreme Base Station or AirPort Express, read this:)
    In short, each time I thought I had properly configured things and then confirmed settings (kicking off a reboot on the AEX unit) the unit would restart with new settings but not properly join the WDS and not show up in the AirPort Utility list of units. More specifically, I would start with a "wiped" AEX and see both the AEBS and the AEX in my AirPort Utility list, but upon confirm/reboot the AEX would disappear and the AEBS would remain. However, that's not 100% correct. It seems that sometimes I would end up with the AEX and NOT the AEBS. Because both the AEX and AEBS were theoretically "hosting" the same network name (remember, WDS shares the network name across units) my auto-login feature for my client computer's wifi seemed to "jump on" whichever unit it first saw hosting the default network name for my house. In other words, it seems what was really happening was that I was ending up with two separate networks in my house, both with the same name but not talking to each other (as opposed to two units sharing the same network name and internet connection). The AEX would continue to blink orange/amber/yellow (whichever color it is to your eyes ) because it could not grab an internet connection -- and if I was on the network through that AEX unit I would not get internet. But if i was connected through the AEBS I would continue to have internet access. As far as my client computer (my Mac Pro) was concerned, I was on the home wifi network even if I was on the AEX rather than the AEBS -- it would show the home wifi network name as the name of the network it had connected to. But when I opened the AirPort Utility 5.3.1 I would see only the AEX (if I was connected through it) or the AEBS (if connected through it) -- a clear indication that the units were not truly sharing the same network.
    I tried rebooting and reconfiguring the AEBS and AEX about 50 times (literally). I even tracked down an older version of the AirPort Utility 5.2.1 via this thread (see Tesserax post):
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1067565
    One interesting thing re: 5.2.1 is that the "Administrative access denied" errors summarized above disappeared. As explained in a post reference above, the going theory is that this a permissions/keychain problem new and unique to AirPort Utility 5.3.1. However, even though 5.2.1 does have a slightly different interface with different settings, I still couldn't get the WDS to work.
    EVENTUALLY, I came across this post:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1422527
    MuaddibOfArrakis walks through setting up a WDS from scratch, and the workflow is different than what is possible with either AirPort Utility 5.3.1 or 5.2.1. He's doing it with the old version of AirPort Admin Utility, which I fortunately saved a copy of many moons ago when I had somewhat-related problems with my WDS (since forgotten). In fact, it's a lot easier. What's nice about this older app is that it literally does the heavy lifting of "connecting" the AEBS and AEX units during the configuration -- it reboots both at the same time as the config is happening, and lets you choose from a list of available units to "add" to your WDS network. In short, it's a FAR SUPERIOR workflow even though some of the GUI isn't as intuitive as the newer AirPort Utilities that were designed to replace it.
    SOLUTION:
    If still have a copy of the AirPort Admin Utility follow the instructions from MuaddibOfArrakis here:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1422527
    If not, try setting up your WDS network using AirPort Utility (hereafter AU), with these configs (take from my now-working network), as viewed through AirPort Utility 5.3.1.
    I. Configure your AEBS.
    Select the AEBS from AU, and choose "Manual Setup"
    1. Under the AirPort tab up top:
    a. Under "Base Station" sub-tab:
    i.) assign a name for that specific unit, so you can later identify the specific unit from the list of units -- this is the name that will show up beside the unit in the AU list of configurable units. You can name it something like "kitchen", or "office". I have mine numbered, so XXXXXv1, XXXXXv2 etc where the XXXXX is the name of the shared network and the numbers help me tell the units apart. Just be sure you name each uniquely, and if you have several you might write the name on the unit itself.
    ii.) pick a password for logging into that unit. This is different from the network password, its a security check to get in and change the configs on this unit later. Be sure to remember it in your keychain for the sake of simplicity, and write it down somewhere secure.
    iii.) if you choose to set time automatically, pick a location that you will use consistently across all your units. I use time.apple.com.
    iv.) uncheck "Allow configuration over Ethernet WAN port" unless you want to be able to remotely mess with settings -- which you almost certainly do not need to do.
    v.) I left the "Options" button alone - no settings there.
    b. Under the "Wireless" sub-tab:
    i.) Wireless Mode: "Participate in a WDS network"
    ii.) Network Name: this will be the name of your wifi network shared by all units, so be sure to remember what you pick. If you are already connected to this AEBS via wifi while you are making these changes, then you can use the same wifi name you already have set up -- you don't have to change it. Note that if you DO change it, after reboot your will LOSE connection to the network and have to reset your wifi settings on your client machine to match the new network/password in order to be able to access the network.
    iii.) pick a Radio Mode. I'm using b/g compatible. You'll want to do the same, unless you are on the new gigabit AEX. I'm pretty sure about this, but not 100% -- others post if I'm wrong.
    iv.) choose a Channel. This can be a more complicated procedure, but for now just pick something consistent across all your units. If you get everything working and find that you're having intermittent network problems, you could later try changing your Channel -- it can pick up interference from phones, microwaves, etc and changing it can help.
    v.) I have wireless security set to WPA/WPA2 Personal.
    vi.) Wireless Password is the password for access to your wifi network (not your unit itself). If you are connecting to your AEBS via wifi while doing this config, then you can use the same password you have already set up. Pick a good one unless you want other folks jumping on your wifi and stealing your bandwidth and/or credit card numbers . Remember it in your keychain and write it down someplace secure, because you'll need it for the other units too. As noted above, note that if you DO change it, after reboot your will LOSE connection to the network and have to reset your wifi settings on your client machine to match the new network/password in order to be able to access the network.
    vii.) Click the "Wireless Options" button. I have my multicast rate set to 2mbps, transmit at 100%, timeout at 1 hour, and i have checked the "Create a closed network". This last step keeps your network from advertising itself to the outside world. Users can only find it by explicitly typing the network name into their wifi settings (e.g. AirPort -> Other... then enter Network Name, Security and Password). I leave interference robustness unchecked.
    c. Under the "WDS" sub-tab:
    i.) the AEBS should have it's WDS Mode set to "WDS main".
    ii.) Check the "allow wireless clients" box on the AEBS; this lets you connect client machines to it directly too.
    iii.) hit the plus button to add the Remote system (AEX). There are two types of configs for the AEX's - "remote" and "relay". Assuming you have 3 units like me (2 AEX and 1 AEBS) the key question is whether you will place each AEX within direct reach of the AEBS (remotes), or if you will have one AEX in the middle connecting to an AEBS on one side and an AEX on the other -- where the furthest AEX is out of reach from the AEBS (remote) and connects only to the AEX in the middle (relay). I'm using a relay setup. If you are using relay, you can still set up the AEX relay to serve client computers too -- it doesnt have to JUST relay. More on that later. For now, you want to add only AEX units that will talk DIRECTLY to the AEBS. So if you have a setup like mine, just add one (the one in the middle - the relay). If you have two remotes connecting directly to the AEBS, you will add them both here. When you hit the '+' button it will ask for both an ID and description. For description I use the name I'm assigning to each unique unit (as above, "kitchen" or XXXXXv1 or whatever you use). For AirPort ID, use the number listed on the AEX unit itself (not the number for "Ethernet", also on the AEX unit).
    d. Under the "Access" sub-tab:
    i.) I have it set to "Not Enabled". I'd suggest you start that way too, and you can go change it later if you get everything working correctly.
    2. Under the "Internet" tab up top:
    a. Under the "Internet Connection" sub-tab:
    i.) Connect Using: Ethernet
    ii.) Configure IPv4: Using DHCP
    iii.) Ethernet WAN Port: Automatic (Default)
    iv.) Connection Sharing: Share a public IP address
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