Adjusting Audio Pan in the Timeline

In the FCE 3.0 help pdf. manual there is a heading for a section: "Adjusting Volume Levels and Pan in the Timeline," but I can't find anywhere that it says anything about adjusting the pan in the timeline, just the levels.
I know how to adjust pan in the viewer, but is there actually a way to do it in the timeline also?

Martin, Thanks, but actually the sound mix on my project is presently quite complex as a clip by clip change in balance from left to right (depending on whether dialogue, sound effects, music, etc.) and I plan on adjusting the pan on each clip individually to especially retain the stereo effect of the music. I just thought it was sort of confusing that the help manual has a section heading on how to adjust pan in the timeline but then doesn't address the issue.
Thanks again, I may end up taking your advice.
Hi Fran,
The only way I know of doing it to all of your
clips in the timeline at once would be to select one
audio clip, and adjust the pan to center (which is
what I believe you want to do, based on your earlier
post). Then select all other audio clips in
the timeline and do Paste Attributes (of course,
having selected just the Pan attribute before
clicking OK in the Paste Attributes window.
For more info, look under "Copying, Pasting &
Removing Clip Attributes" in your FCE manual. In the
FCEHD manual it's in Ch. 16 "Editing in the
Timeline"
Good luck
emac 1.25 superdrive Mac OS X (10.3.9)

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Unable to find a solution in the help or the FAQ, so I'll post my first question here :-)
I would like to vertically zoom into the audio waveform in the timeline. My situation is that I have a 24-bit audio mix of a classical concert with a fairly large dynamic range, i.e. very loud bits and very quiet bits in one single audio file. I don't see enough waveform detail in the quiet parts, even when I enlarge the track vertically. I haven't found an official way of zooming in, at least in the timeline. The audio-waveform-only display in the source monitor does offer a vertical zoom.
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Why have we never been able to modify audio channels once a clip is added to a sequence? I'm guessing there's a good reason Adobe has never had this feature. The lack of this feature is explicitly mentioned a few times in the audio section of the Premiere Pro CC manual, as if it's a benefit NOT to have it. But the benefit is entirely lost on me.
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Maybe its your specific workflow, asset mangement and use of a 3rd party application that runs you into an issue.
Take Pluraleyes out of the equation, I would imagine my workflow is the same as most everyone else. Find footage in the Media Browser. Import it. Create a Sequence and start editing. Use the Source Monitor to set Ins and Outs and then Insert the clip on the timeline.
At this point, if the audio needs to be modified, it cannot be done on the Timeline. The workaround, of course, is to Find Clip in Project; Modify Audio in the Project panel; then do a Matchframe to replace the audio clip. This works, but requires many steps per clip. Also, Matchframe in Premiere Pro CC is not reliable.
Introducing a new Modify Audio (from Timeline) feature as seen in the fantasy screenshot above would solve it.
I dont use Pluraleyse ...which I understand to be a synching aid...so I dont know the workflow it imposes on one .
Returning to Pluraleyes workflow, this issue is compounded by the need to Modify almost ALL audio. Every stereo track is separated and placed on two MONO tracks taking up precious real estate. This is not something Pluraleyes imposes. It is due to the way Premiere imports XML timelines. This would apply to sequences imported from Final Cut as well.
In this case it would be ideal to select both the LEFT and RIGHT mono tracks and choose "Modify > Audio Channels > Merge L/R Mono to a Single Stereo track." Ideal? No. I guess Ideal would be if Premiere would interpret XML files properly in the first place.
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Losing an audio channel in the timeline

In moving a clip (w/ in's and out's set) to the timeline from the viewer, only channel one audio is ending up on the timeline. In the viewer both channels are there. I have tried panning and checked system settings and user preferences but don't see why only one channel is making it to the timeline. I am using final cut pro 7 on a brand new IMac. HELP!

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Is there any way to sync audio to a clip AFTER it is in the timeline?
Here's what happened in my case.
I have video clips with embedded audio on them. As I was editing with them, I noticed that the audio levels were low.
I now have the stand alone audio from the recorder that has MUCH better levels recorded on it, but I cannot find a way to sync it to the clips I already have in my timeline. Is there any way short of syncing them, and manually finding the in and out points again on the newly created "synchronized clip" and doing a replace edit? Seems like a lot of work and not very precise. Can I in any way replace the audio married to the clip with the new audio and have it sync without creating a new clip?
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You said ...
Another question for the audio guys. Would adjusting the "Loudness" setting on the original clips to increase their levels lose me quality over replacing them with the audio files from the recorder?
(Our setup on set, btw was a Fostex recorder and boom mic recording to CF cards, and audio was feeding out of that into our F900 camera (so all of the clips have sync sound as well. The audio that hit the camera though, is significantly quieter than the individual sound wav files off of the Fostex)
I will let the other guys address the syncing of a standalone audio track to your video. There are many ways to do that, and I do that all the time just by aligning the waveform features then pulling the video audio part down to -96dB. You could take all that into a compound clip afterward ... But ...
Regarding the question you asked above. You Fostex will usally record much better audio than any camera audio circuitry. I use standalone Tascams to record audio then marry it to the video afterward ... makes a much better experience for the viewer. Your audio level on the Fostex, being much higher in level, will help things, but I still use Loudness on dialog clips. I don't do anything with commercial music tracks because they have already been maximized for loudness and mixed for proper dynamic range and limiting and compression, etc.
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Finally, (3) pull over the Adaptive Limiter form the audio section of the effects browser onto your clip ... use it's default settings. This will add a soft-knee roll off to your louder peaks while leaving the lower features untouched. I prefer this method to compression because limiters to not boost the noise levels as much as compressors do. Then, to end up, simply check the volume levels for the whole thing again to make sure you are not above 0dB to +1dB.
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This is probably a lot more than you need, but you will end up making your audio almost as good as it can be by following these basic principles. Your mileage may vary
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Panning In The Timeline

Can a track's panning parameters be accessed and effected while in the timeline? or does one have to be in the viewer only in order to be able to pan? And if you can pan while in the timeline . . . well . . . how is it done??
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Ooh! Look what I found!
"To change the pan for a clip or clips:
1 In the Timeline, select the clip or clips you want to pan.
2 Choose Modify > Audio, then choose a pan option from the submenu.
Â Pan Left: Pans audio all the way to the left stereo output (Control-comma).
Â Pan Center: Centers audio evenly between left and right stereo outputs
(Control-period).
Â Pan Right: Pans audio all the way to the right stereo output (Control-/)."
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I'm experiencing a disturbing issue as it actually prevents me to do the work in Premiere. I will put as much info as possible:
1) Project started on a different computer (the editor), PC with Premiere Pro CC,
2) Now opened on my Imac with Premiere Pro CC 2014,
3) I am not editing, simply trying to move audio clips on different tracks to export audio tracks only,
THE ISSUE:
1) Here is my timeline:
2) When I select an audio clip to highlight it, Premiere creates a duplicate on a different track:
Note that the clip highlighted in the previous screen cap is the duplicate and I didn't click it, Premiere highlights it as soon as it is duplicated.
3) When I click out of the timeline or scroll up or down on the timeline, the duplicates disappear. However, when I try to move the original clips, it doesn't do anything, they are stuck in place.
ANTICIPATED ANSWERS:
1) You work on 2 different computers with 2 different versions of Premiere Pro CC, what do you expect? --> The amazing thing about Adobe CC is that it shouldn't be an issue and now I have to deal with it in this way,
2) Try and save an updated version of your project from your computer. --> Already done that.
Thank you for your help. I usually use the customer support chat but I am on the other side of the globe and it is now closed. This issue prevents me to work so I need to solve it quickly.
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This sounds to me like it could be a graphics related problem are you on the latest driver. Something else you could try, start a new project and import the one from the PC into that rather than directly opening it in the MAC

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I'm confused why when you change the audio levels on a clip using the Audio Mixer it changes the levels for everything on the track?
I'm from an FCP & Avid background where you can adjust each clip using the Audio Mixer, is there a way I can do this? I find using the yellow sliders in each clip is very unaccurate and having to open each audio clip in the viewer is such a time waster.
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Audio in Premiere Pro is different--but quite a lot, in many circumstances. I'd recommend going through the help file's audio section to get a better idea of what some of the main controls are: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 & CS5.5 * Editing Audio
But to answer your question more directly: the Audio Mixer controls track volume, not clip volume. By default, the Audio Mixer isn't set to drop keyframes, so it will affect the level of a track as a whole; check out Recording audio mixes to get more background on setting up the Audio Mixer for automation, so that you can record level changes.
The rubberbands (the yellow lines you're referring to) can be more finitely controlled by holding down the Ctrl/Cmd key as you drag; the values will move in smaller increments, then.
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