Adjustment Brush Slider Increments are DIfferent... Behavior?

When using the up/down arrows on global adjustment sliders, with exception to Exposure/Temp in terms of numbers, the increments will be changed by 5 if only pressing the arrow keys. If holding option/alt with the arrow keys, it will change by 1. With shift, 20. Now when we go to the adjustment brush, it is completely different and option/alt does nothing. Why is that? It would be very useful to change the adjustment brush Exposure in smaller increments by using the up down arrows.

It would be very useful to change the adjustment brush Exposure in smaller increments by using the up down arrows.
Smaller or Larger?
Most of them move by 1 with no keyboard modifiers — can't be smaller.

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Adjustment Brush Slider setting defaults.

I notice that even with the Basic Panel sliders all centered at 0; when selecting the Adjustment Brush the sliders are set at some "pre-determined" value.
Example: I opened an image in ACR7, and all the Basic Panel sliders except the Temp & Tint are centered at "0" which makes sense.
When I select the Adjustment Brush the Temp & Tint are at "0", Exposure is at +4.00, Highlights at -61, Shadows at +100 & Clarity at +36; and that seems to be the default for every file opened.
What's with the program making pre-determined settings? I would have thought they'd default at "0" like the Basic panel?
Leigh

Leigh-a wrote:
While you can use the Preview in ACR, it "turns off" any corrections previously applied in the Basic Panel and is, therefore, most useful only if the Adjustment Brush is used prior to any adjustments in the Basic Panel.
I may be misunderstanding what you meant by this, but on its plain meaning it seems wrong.
Assuming you are in the Adjustment Brush panel, toggling the Preview just turns off/on the edits made only in that panel - any edits made in the Basic Panel (or any other panel for that matter) remain visible. It would be quite pointless if they did not.
The only panels in which you can turn off the edits made in other panels are the Presets and Snapshots panels, and there, when you toggle the Preview, its turns off/on all the edits made in all the other panels.
Correction: Just did a test and found that toggling the Preview in Presets/Snapshots does not turn off/on local edits made with the Adjustment Brush.
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Lightroom adjustment brush inconsistent with Camera Raw

I love Lightroom's adjustment brushes, but I find it annoying that I can't use them to take saturation all the way to monochrome, even with the saturation slider turned down all the way. Today, I noticed that in Camera Raw 5.4, the same thing is NOT true - you can remove color completely with an adjustment brush.
Surprised at this difference, I wondered what would happen when I loaded the ACR-adjusted file back into Lightroom. Lo and behold, Lightroom showed the result of the adjustment brush the same way as ACR, with all color removed. Excellent!
But what would happen if I changed that adjustment brush in Lightroom? Would it "forget" what I had done in ACR and revert to its normal behavior? No, it continued to behave just as it had in ACR. But in the same photo, a brush created in Lightroom did not behave the same way. So clearly, it was something to do with which program created the brush.
Then I took a look at my XMP file, and it became (somewhat) clear what's going on. This is one of the XMP attributes for the brush created in ACR:
<crs:MaskValue>1.000000</crs:MaskValue>
And here's the same attribute for the brush created in Lightroom:
<crs:MaskValue>0.375000</crs:MaskValue>
The obvious next question is, what happens if you change MaskValue from 0.375000 to 1.000000? Answer: The brush starts behaving like an ACR brush.
Now, this is kind of cool. I can get the behavior I want in Lightroom, by editing the XMP file by hand. On the other hand, editing XMP files isn't really my favorite thing. Is there some setting in Lightroom that can be used to achieve a MaskValue of 1.000000 for adjustment brushes? I couldn't find one, but hey, there are a lot of settings...

Ian, thank you! It was indeed Density that did the trick. I mistakenly thought Density had nothing to do with it, because you have to set it before you create a new brush stroke. (Each individual stroke of a particular adjustment brush can have a different Density value, along with the other Brush attributes like Size.) So I was changing it for my existing brush strokes, foolishly expecting it to work like the Effect sliders, and seeing no effect.
Jao, my flow was set to 100 all along, so I don't think that was my problem. It really seems to have been Density.

New adjustment brush bug

When setting values for a new adjustment brush, most values are not retained when changing the image being worked on.
Steps to reproduce:
- Select more than one image to work on in library, and then enter develop
- Create a new adjustment brush with non-zero setting for exposure, contrast, highlights, shadows, clarity, and saturation
- Apply strokes with the brush to the current image
- Change the image you are working on in develop
Expected behavior (as in previous versions of Lightroom)
- All the settings applied to the new brush in the previous image are retained
Actual behavior
- Only the modified setting for exposure is retained - all other settings have reverted to zero and must be reentered on each image
System used: 64 bit Windows 7 running on an IMac under Bootcamp with 12 GB of RAM
Surely this is not intended behavior. This doubles my work using the adjustment brush in my typical workflow.

After playing around with effect presets, I now understand what is going on, and I suspect it is intended, but I still don't like it! In Lightroom 3, the default selection in the effects popup is 'Custom', which accepts whatever settings you have entered to a new adjustment brush. When you move on to another image, unless you change it, 'Custom' remains the default selection for the effects pop-up, and the settings you entered for your most recent new adjustment brush 'stick' and appear as the default. In Lightroom 4, the 'Custom' choice in the effects pop-up has gone away, and the first choice that appears in the pop-up list becomes the one that is applied by default to the new adjustment brush, which happens to be the 'Exposure' effect, which has a setting for exposure only, which is why it is the one and only one setting that reappears.
I expect that when I create a new adjustment brush, without specifically selecting an effect, it will be truely new with all settings at zero! The current behavior is very unintuitive. It should not pick up any defaults, particularly by just picking up the settings from whatever effect happens to be the first one in the effects popup list! I either want the 'Custom' all zeros default back, or at least to have no effect applied by default to the new brush and have settings applied to the brush if and only if an effect is selected from the pop-up.

Has anyone experienced a problem with the adjustment brush since last update (for Mac) last week?

Following an update to Lightroom on my Mac Pro work station last Friday: when I apply my adjustment brush to an area in an image, a faint box encompassing a much larger area than the size of my brush appears (extends well beyond the area I've identified with my brush and is clearly a large square shape). When I release my mouse, the adjustment I've made affects my entire image. I had no issues with adjustment brush prior to the update. I've been on the phone with Adobe support (no help). Have uninstalled/reinstalled Lightroom several times (no help). Adobe directed me to Apple (recommend use of Time Machine to date before Lightroom update came through). To ensure it's an isolated bug, I checked my MacBook Pro. Worked fine without update; I let update come through and find the adjustment brush "bug" is intermittent. When it occurs, however, I always see the larger "box" area, and the adjustment brush ultimately affects my entire image.
Anyone else experiencing this? Adobe support insists it's a Mac issue. Thanks!

Hi,
Following an update to Lightroom on my Mac Pro work station last Friday: when I apply my adjustment brush to an area in an image, a faint box encompassing a much larger area than the size of my brush appears (extends well beyond the area I've identified with my brush and is clearly a large square shape).
Same problem (rectangular areas) + others under Windows. The adjustment brush and the clone / heal tool have been totally broken in LR 3.2. You're not alone. See this thread. I have filed a bug report. No answer until now.

Camera Raw (Adjustment Brush - How do you select NO color?)

With the Adjustment Brush selected, there are six control channel parameters listed:
Exposure
Brightness
Contrast
Saturation
Clarity
Sharpness
Color
The Color control channel shows a color swatch, which displays the current color parameter setting:
When this parameter is set to no color, the swatch appears as a rectangle with two diagonal lines. It looks something like this:
How do I set the color parameter to no color?

Thanks for the quick response.
When I select white (from the Color Picker), the color control parameter's color swatch becomes white, like this:
After some experimentation I found that "no color" can be selected by choosing white with a saturation of 0 in the Color Picker.
That combination produces "no color" and the color control parameter's color swatch appears like this -- showing the two diagonal lines:
I appreciate your help which got me on the right track. Thanks.

Adjustment Brush in Lightroom 5 has a different sized effect smaller than the brush size

Hi,
When using Lightroom 5 Adjustment brush, the effect is only in the inner half of the brush size circle. In other words, if you select a 1 inch brush to darken, only about the center 1/2 inch is being darkened. I'm 100 percent sure the brush has no feathering, and all the settings are fine. An expert told me to try to get rid of preferences, and try it, and it still does the same thing. Now, I just updated to LR 5.7 hoping maybe it will fix it, to no avail. The LR on my laptop behaves perfectly fine.
Attached is a screen shot and a phone shot (excuse the moire, I had to use a phone to show the brush size properly) to show settings and the effect I'm talking about, so it's perfectly clear.
I have been putting up with this for months, but it's driving me crazy. Also, it occurred to me that all adjustments I make might 'change' later when I fix it, and it might show up unknown to me when I export the files later. And this would waste hundreds of hours of work if something resets somehow.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
Thanks in advance for all replies!
Stu

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Adjustment brush changed its behavior

This behavior just started: When I use the adjustment brush, it slightly darkens the area brushed over no matter what options I have set for it to apply. I have no mask active. The actual effects only become visible once I deactivate the brush. Until today, the brush worked perfectly. And the graduated filter works as it should, along with all the other tools. Any suggestions?
Lightroom 2.3, Vista 64 Ultimate SP1, 12 GB RAM, i7 chip.

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CC Bridge slow-. adjustment brushes not showing size, adjustments when done blind are slow to react

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adjustment brushes not showing size, adjustments when done blind are slow to react.

Bridge is far more than a file browser.   Bridge does what lightroom does.
When working with Raw files, there are tools,   **adjustment brushes** that allow you to dodge and burn raw files.
These brushes are size adjustable and now with CC, I can not see the size of the tool I am using.
So you might want to look at Bridge differently, as it is a very powerful tool.
Anyone else have a similar experience with CC version of Bridge?

Local Adjustment Brush Sliders Are Gone

I did a reinstall, repair actually of LR 2.6 due to blue screen errors (which turned out not to be LR related) and now my local adjustment brush sliders are gone! I've got the old style, one slider with the other controls being + & - buttons. I've got no clue what else is gone but I would like my sliders back.
What happened? LR says it's the most current version.

Jim,
In the upper right corner of the brush panel is a little whte buttton. It is on the same line as "adjustment:".
Click that button to reveal your sliders
Rich

Strange behavior of LR3 local adjustment brush

Lately, it seems that LR3 (Mac) is acting strange when doing local adjustments. When using the adjustment's brush, the area being "painted on", i.e., adjustments, a square area centered on the cursor position is shaded a bit darker than the area not covered by the brush. What gives?
dds

Hi,
dsteinauer wrote:
Lately, it seems that LR3 (Mac) is acting strange when doing local adjustments. When using the adjustment's brush, the area being "painted on", i.e., adjustments, a square area centered on the cursor position is shaded a bit darker than the area not covered by the brush. What gives?
dds
I have had similar problems with 3.2 and also (while doing local adjustments)
- rectangular areas of the image suddenly duplicated elsewhere in the image
- whole image flipped upside down while painting with the local adjustment brush
Using Undo always put back the image in a normal state (the state it was before starting to apply the last local adjustment).
I have not seen this in 3.3 (final release) until now but I didn't use it much since it has been made available.
NB: (before someone asks) Yes, I do have the latest NVidia driver installed.

Recently downloaded a trial version of CC and when trying to use the Adjustment Brush in ACR it brings up the message 'All the local adjustment controls are set to have no effect on the image'. I've downloaded this as an update to CS5 on my new i Mac. W

Recently downloaded a trial version of CC and when trying to use the Adjustment Brush in ACR it brings up the message 'All the local adjustment controls are set to have no effect on the image'. I've downloaded this as an update to CS5 on my new i Mac. Would appreciate suggestions to remedy this. Rhonda

I think it means "the sliders are all 0 so painting adjustments with this brush won't change anything." In other words, move one of the sliders to a non-zero position, for example Exposure from 0 to 1.0, and then see what happens. You can edit the brush and change it to do something other than Exposure +1.

Adjustment brush bugged? Image areas not brushed over change nevertheless

Problem:
I used the adjustment brush to brighten up an area in an image (+0.2 exposure). Doing so, a nearby but not connected area and not touched by the brush brightened up as well, going from almost blown out to blown out as shown by the red warning overlay.
System:
Pentium i5 machine, Windows 7 home premium 64 bit, 8 GB RAM
Lightroom 3.3 64 bit
Here are some illustrations:
before applying the brush (note the blue are near the upper edge not yet blown out)
I am applying the brush here (note area marked in red, not touching the blue almost blown out part near the top edge):
And this is what happens to the blue area when applying the brush:
The funny thing is, when I hover the cursor over the brush pin (as in the second picture above), the blue area to the top left is NOT marked blown out (as can be seen in the second picture).
Something strange is going on here. Either the red 'blown out' overlay is not functioning correctly in this situation, or the adjustment brush is bugged. It should obviously not have any effect on areas that have not been brushed over.
Any thoughts?
Christian

CASpyr wrote:
Thanks Lee Jay for the quick reply. I did search before posting but apparently have not used the right terms.
It seems this is known for quite a while. Has Adobe made any statement on a workaround or that this is being fixed?
I understand this is something occurring in unusual circumstances only but still, it's a bug....
I think the problem is that they cannot reproduce the issue, hence no fix yet.

Has anyone had experience with the new moire slider under the adjustment brush in LR4?

There's a new moire removal tool under the adjustment brush in LR4. In the near future I expect to have photos that contain moire patterns. Has anyone used this tool yet? I'd like to get an inkling as to how effective it is.

There is an example of moiré on the Nikon Imaging site for the D800E.
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/features01.htm
I was able to reduce the moiré significantly, but not eliminate it with the Lightroom 4 adjustment brush. I haven't found any software solutions that can completely repair moiré. The Lightroom 4 feature seems about as good as any I've tried.
Here are a few links you might find interesting:
http://unsharp-mask.blogspot.com/2007/08/moir-removal-in-photoshop.html
http://vimeo.com/23508129
http://www.dbphoto.net/techniques/moire/index.html

Hi! I have a problem with the adjustment brush some are not there anymore like soften skin, how i can fix that?

Hi! I have a problem with the adjustment brush some are not there anymore like soften skin, how i can fix that?

Hi dear,
it's funny, real funny.
I think the programmes have diffrent sound system from the normal calls system.
All you need to do is to turn the sound up from the bottom in the phone side in the time you're making or recieving the call.
you'll hear the sound.
I hope that would help.
All the best

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