Adobe Camera Raw and using a Canon 5D Mark2

I wanted to share my learning curve about this problem for CS3 users and below who use a Canon 5dMk 2.
My previous workflow had been to convert all my CR2 files to Adobe DNG using Lightroom version 2 which works fine. However I have started using DXO Optics Pro v 5+ which is unable at present to read the DNG files.
So I now use DXO to convert the CR2 files into Linear DNGs which I can then use in PS and LR etc. What I didn't realize is that PS is unable to read the native RAW CR2 files from the Canon as the minimum ACR specification is 5.2! CS3 ACR is stuck at 4.6.
If you were only using PS CS3 you would be unable to read your RAW files created using the Canon.
Just thought this might be helpful for anyone out there.
I back up and archive all my original CR2 files to a separate hard drive in case I need access to them in the future. Interestingly there is a very technical discussion out there about Linear DNG vs Adobe DNG and the potential merits/ demerits of the two formats.
As I have a large library of Adobe DNG files I would hope that DXO optics Pro is in future able to access these.

Correction:
<If you were only using PS CS3 you would be unable to read your RAW files created using the Canon.>
This is not meant to read as it sounds. Yes you can use CS3 with Canon 5DMk 2 files provided they have been converted to DNGs.

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