Adobe Indesign "copy & paste" oder "place"
Ich habe da mal so eine Frage bezüglich des Einbettens von Bildern in Indesign...Ich kann es gerade selber nicht überprüfen, da ich nur Indesign über die Schule benutze. Die Information ist wichtig für meine Prüfung denn es gibt einen theoretischen Teil in dem solche Fragen gestellt werden.
Wo liegt der Unterschied zwischen "Copy and Paste" (Kopieren & Einfügen) um ein Bild einzufügen und dem gewohnten "Place" (Platzieren) über Indesign? (eine der beliebtesten Fragen der vergangenen Jahre an unserer Schule)
Ist es richtig, dass wenn ich über "Platzieren" mein Bild einfüge, das Bild auf meiner Festplatte vorhanden sein muss (was bei "copy&paste" halt nicht umbedingt)
UND dieses sich meinem Rahmen, in Größe (nicht Dateingröße) anpasst?
(warum es sinnvoll ist das Bild auf der Festplatte zu haben ist mir bewusst )
Freue mich über rasche Antworten
Ganz lieben Gruß die Fortuna
Would you please advise if the image quality is the same when copied/pasted, rather than "placed" into my inDesign document.....
While copy/paste of images is dangerous poison in general
If you set your Clipboard Handling preference to Prefer PDF When Pasting it's hard to find any evidence of a quality difference between pasting and linking, at least on OSX. A pasted image is embedded so there might be a problem with file size if you pasted multiple large pixel dimension images and it would be harder to edit the image once it is pasted, but Acrobat tells me the same image linked and pasted have the same resolution and color properties.
This PDF/X-4 has the same CMYK image pasted from Photoshop and then linked. Both have Coated FOGRA27 assigned. Acrobat's Object Inspector shows no difference in resolution, bit depth, or color space:
http://www.zenodesign.com/forum/PasteVsLinked.zip
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Illustrator to Indesign - copy/paste
I created a design in Adobe Illustrator and then select that design, copy and paste in Indesign.
Everything comes fine and looking fine in Indesign but when i export that as a PDF then one thin line is shown on page because when i paste a design then Indesign splits that design in parts.
There is any way of solving this problem.> File > Place can be used if i save the file in illustrator in a format which understands by indesign otherwise have to do copy/paste...
Uh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Don't Copy and paste to get Illustrator art into Indesign. save the file as AI, then use File > Place. The only reason to copy/paste is if you want the be able to edit the artwork within Indesign. This might apply to paths that are easier to create or edit in Illustrator that you want to use as frames in InDesign. Some people like to do this with logos so that the colour is easy to change within Indesign (I'm not one of those people).
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Is it possible to only select visible layers to copy/paste in place.
Hello!
I must be missing something. In Adobe Illustrator, when you select a layer (or sub-layer) to copy, is it possible to only copy the visible layers and not the hidden ones?
When I supply my clients with their final illustrator files, I only want to include the approved art work. Currently I make a copy of the file and go through and delete the hidden files, it would be much easier to just copy and paste in place the visible layers into a new Adobe illustrator file .
Thanks!Here's an example of why, I may have 3 heads on a character. Since the character is copy and pasted into different boards, and scenes I build them once (think modular illustration). I need to be able to copy and paste, the talking head and not the Neutral or thoughtful heads. That is the overall goal of the post.
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Hello,
Issues with Indesign CS6 crashing 3-4weeks after fresh install.
Version: 8.0.2
ran all the update in adobe/indesign, even fresh install of Windows a few time.
System Information:
Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
6GB RAM
CPU i5 3.20GHz
Pulled the crash log:
C:\Users\hojaleht\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive
if anything I can do, please let me know,
There are 4 crashes:
11/6/13
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LoadedModule[221]=C:\Program FilesIn future, please put crash logs like this on Pastebin.com and link to them here. That's too much text to scroll through to make a response.
Windows crash reoprts are pretty useless, but you have at least three different crashes in the four reports. I'd start by replacing the prefs. See Replace Your Preferences -
Copy & Paste from Illustrator to InDesign CS4
Hi,
I am aware that there are issues when copying/pasting from Illustrator to InDesign, in particular:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/6.0/WSa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8cb3f-6bdda.html
I have the following problems:
1- I copy and paste text from Illustrator to InDesign on the same platform and some (not all) of the text is converted to outline in InDesign. The same font is available to both applications. Why this behaviour?
2- I copy and paste objects containing text from Illustrator to InDesign and some of the objects appear to have moved respective positions when pasted into InDesign. Is this to be expected?
Are there solutions to these problems? Note that if I expand everything in Illustrator prior to copying and pasting into InDesign, none of these issues occur, but everything is obviously in outline form, with the limitations it entails.
My clipboard settings are as indicated in the link above, but I have tried other settings with no more luck.
(Important: Before pasting a graphic, make sure that Illustrator is configured to copy as AICB (see Illustrator Help). In InDesign, make sure that Prefer PDF When Pasting isn’t selected in the Clipboard Handling preferences. If these options aren’t set properly, the Illustrator graphic cannot be edited in InDesign.)
It is not practical for me to create an Illustrator file for each of the Illustrator graphics and import those files via Place into InDesign. I must use Copy/Paste.
I use CS4.
Thanks.You can copy/paste from Illy to ID by selecting the text with the type tool in Illy and then pasting it into ID. You will not be able to maintain the formatting. If you want to maintain the appearance the text will be converted to outlines.
If you need to get anything other than very simple objects from Illy to ID then you should save as AI and use the file > place command to place those objects as linked graphics into ID.
Your closing statement is irrelevant. Whether you like it or not, this is the way it is.
Bob -
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Hey guys,
I usually work on the US version of InDesign CS4 on a Mac... But for a series of projects I need to do for Dubai, I am using the ME InDesign CS4 on PC.
Sigh.
Now, my problem is, when I copy/paste what our translator sent us from WordPad (I don't have Word installed on the PC side ) It is flipping my text around.
Now, I bought the ME version of InDesign to avoid this problem, as I knew it would be a problem with the US version... So what am I doing wrong? I was following this thread (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/450951) and feel like I have the exact same problem that person had, all the way through to the end.
Can someone further help me out? I need to be able to use this... I have to send everything to press next week!! (eek!)
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FYI--I am trying to use Arabic.First of all, you can (should) place the text. Why are you copy/pasting?
Make sure your text is set to use the World-Ready Composer. If the
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Harbs
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i have this problem and i hope someone can help me because i'm starting to have tics all over my body: my indesign can't hande any type of copy/paste. Every time i try to make a ctrl+c ctrl+v operation (in the same page of the same document, in a different page in the same document, in different document pages) and especially a paste in place operation, it inevitabily crashes. Then i relaunch the program, work for five minutes and then at the next copy paste it crashes again. Then i restart my pc, launch the program, and it works for half hour and then... it starts crashing again with the same method. Just because i had a similar problem with photoshop when i try moving a layer which is not the fisrt (but not as frequently as with indesign) i cleaned all the suite and reinstalled it a couple of times already, but eventually, after a day, it starts again with this problem. It's been a lot fo time since this started... it's not a document problem since every document has this behaviour, new ones, old ones, and even made in other computers ones. If it can help I run a 32bit windows 7, but i really have no clue of what can cause these problems..
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Hi All,
Is there options to get the image copy & paste into the Indesign, if i done manually the frames and lines stroke, colors, are coming fine, but the text object only converted the image. i want to edit text in indesign.
this is possible for scripting or manual?
regards
CSM_PHILYou can copy/paste from Illy to ID by selecting the text with the type tool in Illy and then pasting it into ID. You will not be able to maintain the formatting. If you want to maintain the appearance the text will be converted to outlines.
If you need to get anything other than very simple objects from Illy to ID then you should save as AI and use the file > place command to place those objects as linked graphics into ID.
Your closing statement is irrelevant. Whether you like it or not, this is the way it is.
Bob -
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I have opened some files and I want to copy that 10 small text frames from the source file and paste in place into the opened InDesign Docs master pages. I hope while copying that text frames, paragraph style also would copy. Could anyone help for this, please?
If anything not clear plz let me know.
Thanks in Advance,
ThiruUse TextFrame.duplicate()
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I'd like to find a resolution as to why copying and pasting broke this font even though the same missing font works fine simultaneously in a different document. Any suggestions/questions/thoughts/solutions would be very welcome.
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See above image.. I made a vector version of our company logo in illustrator (all programs referenced are cs5 btw) and it looks great, but when I copy and paste from Illustrator to InDesign, it loses the transparency around the logo. If I place the logo instead, it works fine. The trouble is there are about 16 variations of the logo, and its MUCH easier to copy/paste from one aggregate file instead of having many different logo files to place.
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It may depend on how you copy/paste--I'd expect the above to be true if you copy/paste with the Type tool, but I'm not sure what happens if you copy/paste all of the text frames in a story using the Selection tool. It may be that the label is maintained in that case.
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