Adobe Media Encoder is a HORRIBLE workflow

I held out from having to use AME when CC came out, but now Adobe has removed the "allow deprecated formats" option in 2014 we have no choice but to use it for most of the content we're outputting.
Three things make this a bloody awful workflow, at the moment:
1) It doesn't remember where you last rendered to, and will always try to save the output in the same folder as the project. For professionals, this is utterly stupid. Our AE projects are saved in a central folder, but outputs go into a subfolder of a subfolder of the client's main folder - something like X:\CLIENTS\ABC_Corp\2014\July14\Projectname\outputs\. We frequently have to output a list of comps in one go, so having to navigate down this kind of path structure every time is a massive waste of time.
2) When rendering from AE, you can define presets based on filetype without having to specify an output resolution - so for example, we're currently outputting content for screens at a major outdoor festival. There are 5 screens in all with 4 different resolutions, but they all need to be in Quicktime DXV format. From AE, this is simple: it doesn't have to care what resolution the file ends up at, we can use one DXV preset for all five files. From AME, we would have to define four different presets, one for each resolution. I tried this, and AME gave me the "bleat of death". AE rendered them out fine.
3) AME is SLOOOOW. I can have multiple copies of AE running and render in the background anyway, quicker than AME. AME adds extra time faffing to get each render set up, and then seems to render slower than AE.
Oh, and:
4) AME isn't as good as AE at keeping a history of what's been rendered and how long it took. When opening up a project in AE, I might not have created it to start with, or I might have just forgotten how long each render took. It's not always obvious whether a 60" clip might take 2 hours to render, or two minutes. AME doesn't make it obvious how long something took and when it was last rendered - I know this is in its logs, but something more human-readable would be an improvement.
When can we see a bit of development of AME to bring it up to standard?

Simply go to your Creative Cloud app and install the Media Encoder.

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Just how hard it is to export using Adobe Media Encoder ?

For those who have CS4 already, just how difficult is it to export
to Adobe Media Encoder ?
Right now it's very simple, you make up your work area for example, and export.
So with CS4, I must do what exactly to do this ?
Do I have to save the project with the work area selected, exit, now open Adobe Media Encoder and now select "open project" and now load this up and then export ?
Please tell me it ain't so.
I'd like to hear the steps to do this. I have to be honest, what once was an exciting time, has turned into a disappointing time now, reading all the things Adobe had changed ( for no good reason ). I just don't understand sometimes why they do things. I think they should get more input from poeple that use their products on a daily basis, so they know what they should touch, and what not to touch.
I'm actually not looking forward to upgrading now, even though I will, because of a few things that look good in the new version.
Dave.

It ain't so.
The workflow remains pretty much the same until you finally click the OK button. At that point the AME will open up and you can choose to start the queue immediately or switch back to PPro and do several more exports before starting the queue.
Read all about exporting
from the horse's mouth. ;)
You will also find several
CS4 tutorials that will show you how it's done.
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Adobe Media Encoder CS6 Random Crashing Mid-Render

Hello -
I've been dealing with this issue for enough months and across enough computers to finally seek out some advise here, hope it works out...
Basically I've got a 2 hour long film that I've been trying to export using Adobe Media Encoder CS6. It's never made it all the way through. I can usually skim through the generated quicktime file up to the point where the crash occurred. I've tried using that as a reference to check out my sequence in Premiere but there is never anything suspicious going on there. Most frustratingly the crash occurs randomly. Sometimes it will go through 10 minutes of the film; sometimes an hour. Regardless I get a crash with a report that has no specific information.
Footage:
r3d - Various resolutions, all being cut in a 2048x1152 sequence.
Quicktime mov - ProRes4444 for the most part.
Machine(s):
I had been attempting to render this for the past few months with a Macbook Pro running OSX 10.8.4 w/ 16GB RAM, 2.7 GHz Intel i7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024MB - never made it through a render longer than 50 minutes of the 2 hours.
We recently got one of the new 2013 Mac Pro systems running OSX 10.9 w/ 16GB RAM, 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5, AMD FirePro D500 3072 MB
The hope was that this new powerful machine would overcome the issues we were running into with these renders. Since I'm posting this now you can probably figure out that it didn't really work out that way...
Software:
AME- 6.0.2.81
Premiere - 6.0
I know there are updates to be used here, but whenever I update Premiere from just 6.0, the project itself becomes a buggy mess, crashing constantly. I also run Creative Cloud and have tried to just jump over to Premiere CC hoping all my problems would vanish, but instead, I again get a buggy project that constantly crashes. The only version of Premiere that seems to work with this project is 6.0, so general updates have not been useful (and instead damaging, I've wasted several days trying everything I possibly can to make the project work in the updates).
Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Thanks for the reply MMeguro.
Last night I was able to get my first full render through by doing a combination of things (so I'm not sure what did the trick in the end).
To answer some questions first, never attempted to do the FULL render directly out of Premiere, always switched over to AME for that, so that potentially could work too. Smaller renders have worked directly out of Premiere Pro, but they've also worked out of AME.
The initial render attempts that had been failing for the last few months were on the MBP which did not support GPU accleration due to an incompatible graphics card. I assumed the issue must be tied to something else because of this and was using it on the renders with the new 2013 Mac Pro. Using the workflow of Pr6.0, AME 6.0 and GPU rendering turned ON, I was failing to render to both Quicktime h264 and ProRes 422.
What worked for last night's render:
1. Convert Pr6.0 project to PrCC project (when I've done actual editing in CC after converting this project it tends to crash, but I figured just generating the project itself without doing any editing in it might satisfy what I was attempting to do).
2. Open AME CC and import PrCC Sequence. Used custom ProRes 422 setting.
3. Turned OFF GPU acceleration.
So as long as I the PrCC project I create stays stable long enough to save it (without crashing, which has been a problem with that Pr6.0 to PrCC conversion) then it seems like this will work. Kind of an annoying couple extra steps but I'm just out of my mind glad that I can actually render this thing finally. We're still in the rough stages so being able to turn around a review version within a day is very important.
Wish I could do more tests to figure out exactly which combination actually made this work for the benefit of others, but can't afford to do multiple 10 hour+ renders with random crash times.
Anyway, thanks again for the reply MMeguro much appreciated.

Adobe Media Encoder CS5 hangs when adding files of varying HD resolutions.

I've seen questions similar to this related to CS4 but never explained very well, and my CS4 for mac worked fine. I am unsure if this is a new problem or a windows specific problem but here is the situation, if you need more information I will gladly provide it.
For the past week or so I have been encoding 1920x1080i mov files (h.264/aac) to 1280x720p (vp6/mp3) flvs. When I stick to that single HD format in the AMC processing que everything works great. However, when I add older HD content into the AMC que, content with non-standard presets, the program hangs. I tried to import about 15 files last night and the program just sat there all night in a '...NOT RESPONDING' state. The video's have different audio and video settings and it's little difficult to pinpoint exactly what they were. Some are 1440x1080, some are 1280x900, some have PCM audio some of mp3.
Now I temporarily resolved this issue by simply using cs4 master on my mac pro which worked great. However I have noticed a huge speed increase in CS5 64bit AMC. It takes 2-3 hours to encode 1 flash video on my mac pro (dual quad core xeon 2.9Ghz/32GB ram) with CS4. It takes ~20 minutes on my windows 7 station (single core 2 quad 3Ghz/8GB ram) with CS5.
How to replicate:
If I drop a single file into the AMC CS5 que, regardless of the resolution, frame rate, or sound codec; it will import. If I then add another file with a different resolution AMC will hang and become non-responsive. It never crashed but I can't wait 12+ hours to see if it accepted a job or not. As I said before this problem was not observed on CS4 for mac - it worked flawlessly, albeit a little slow.
Software used:
Adobe Media Encoder CS5 windows 64bit
Adobe Media Encoder CS4 mac 32bit
System specs:
Windows 7 home:
Core 2 quad 3Ghz
8GB ram
80GB SSD x25-m
nVidia Quadro 580
OSX 10.6.3:
Dual Xeon 2.99Ghz
32GB ram
4 7200 disks in 4TB raid 0
Radeon HD 2600
Matrox MAX h.264 compressor card
Any advice on this situation would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time
-Michael Emanuel

Hi Michael,
Sorry to hear you're having problems with Adobe Media Encoder. I'd like to get some more information about the problem so I can better understand your workflow, and potentially try to recreate the problem. For what it's worth, I often import files of different resolutions without any problem, so I want to find out what's different about how you're using AME.
Apologies for the long list of questions; the small details can be important.
-- After you import the first file, what else do you do in AME? Change the preset? Change the settings? Change the output destination?
-- What are the properties of the files that are causing the problem? You said it happens on "non-standard" files, but can you describe the specifications for one or more files that cause the problem? Please include file type, length, frame rate, frame dimensions, field order (if applicable), alpha mode (if applicable), and audio type and rate. If you know more the bitrate, both video and audio, that would be nice, too.
-- If any of the files are small enough, could you post a couple online that I could try on my machine?
-- How were these files generated? What application created them?
-- Where are the files stored? A local drive, a network drive, a removeable drive (USB or Firewire), etc.?
-- Which Adobe application or suite do you have installed? AME a limited set of options if you're using Flash or Web Premium compared to Master Collection, Production Premium, Premiere Pro, or After Effects.
-=TimK
-=Adobe Media Encoder QE

Adobe Media Encoder CC 7.2.2 Update Update is not applicable. Error Code: U44M2P28

I have Adobe Media Encoder which is no longer launching or recognised by Adobe App Manager. How cool is that. Can't install trial version of AME. Get the above error when doing so.
Why did AME just stop working?
No updates to either OS or Adobe product....why oh why...I have to export for a SFX spot session & now I have to use Premiere Pro to do it & stop editing!
Any solutions welcome by those who've been through this before.
OSX MAvericks, MAC PRO 4,1 2X2.66, 24GB RAM, 256GB SSD, GTX670, GT12O, AJA LHI, ADOBE CC

Hi Rave
Thanks for that.
However I'm in the middle of a doco with tight deadlines for festival delivery & I can't afford to reinstall everything again at this point...ideally I'd like to remain on the same version of PPCC without upgrading (& so with it any number of new issues I haven't got time to deal with which would be the case if following your strategy). Better the devil you know & all that.
Can I delete apps using the cleaner tool & then reload 7.2.1 PPCC instead of the latest version? Is AME still working with this version of PPCC? Let me know the workflow & links if possible.
Thanks
S

Adobe Media Encoder CC: Can I export to Apple ProRes 422 on a Mac?

Hi folks,
I tried to find some information about it, but couldn't really find a definite answer on this.
Unfortunately, my Mac is getting fixed as we speak, so I can't try this out either...
I want to convert mxf files (XDCAM HD 422 1080i 50, 50 Mbit/s with multiple Audio channels) to Apple ProRes 422 using Adobe Media Encoder CC.
Simple question: Is that possible or do I need to look for a different workflow/converter?
Thanks for your help!
Jens
PS: OS is Mavericks...

Hi DataWrangler,
Thanks for posting on Adobe Forums.
Please download proress presets for Adobe Media Encoder from here : http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5411
Please update if this helps.
Regards,
Sandeep

Where is a link to download Adobe Media Encoder CC?

I just registered for the Creative Cloud trial and would like to download the Media Encoder. If that isn't included in the trial, where may I subscribe to it or purchase it?

Hi So,
Premiere Pro and other applications employ Adobe Media Encoder, a standalone encoding application. When you specify export settings in the Export Settings dialog box and click Export, Premiere Pro sends the export request to the Adobe Media Encoder.
For more info please refer to http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/workflow-overview-exporting.html#adobe_media_enc oder
Thanks!
Eshant

Is there a way to apply LUTS to clips while in Adobe Media Encoder

is there a way to apply LUTS to clips while in Adobe Media Encoder? We have many camera clips needing luts applied then wrapped to ProRes422 for editing. right now we are using after effects, rendering out then wrapping in Encoder, but this workflow is quite time consuming.We've tried rendering proRes out of AE but the boss isn't happy with the results without also going through Encoder.

No, there is not a way to apply color changes (e.g., using LUTs) in Adobe Media Encoder. Do this in After Effects, but just add your After Effects compositions directly to the Adobe Media Encoder encoding queue (e.g., by choosing File > Add After Effects Composition in the AME UI).

Adobe Media Encoder CS6 is a worthless piece of unstable trash

8 gigs ram
Intel Core i7 950
Quadro FX 1800
Yadda yadda yadda. My comptuer should have enough juice to encode what I need it to (old NTSC home video footage). Unfortunately, regardless of my output settings, Adobe Media Encoder hangs and crashes when I try to encode a video with a length anywhere north of 10 minutes. It's infuriating. No logs, just an alert stating "Adobe Media Encoder has stopped working and needs to close".
This is a professional piece of software designed to do one thing and one thing well. The length/size of my source material shouldn't matter. I should not be having these problems. There should at least be a directory of comprehensive error logging so I can give a more useful description of my problem, but alas.
My questions are:
1. Are there any general tips you can provide to increase the stability of this useless product?
2. What are my alternatives, software wise? What can I use to actually get what I need done? Any recommendations?
Thank you.

What's the old saying, "You'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"?
Everyone hear loves to help other users, but attitude is important. The CS6 AME works perfectly for me and most other folks, which would indicate that there is something wrong in your particular setup or workflow. I understand you are frustrated, but let's take a deep breath and get this fixed for you ;-)
First off, Adobe always comes out with bug fixes after the intial release - are you using the latest 6.0.3 for Premiere? I don't know if there was an AME update, you can check that easy enough.
What is the workflow - how do you capture the clips, what are the Sequence Settings, and what are the Export settings?
Do you have a separate drive for video, or using C: for it all? Drives defragged, not too full?
Graphics card driver up to date?
Thank you
Jeff Pulera

Adobe MEdia Encoder Crashes with big files inputed

Hello,
There isn't a forum for the Adobe Media Encoder, so I thought this would be a good spot. I am an after effects and Premiere user who likes the idea Adobe seems to have of using the media encoder to cover all my encoding needs.
My typical workflow, especially since these days I'm doing more shorter form animations, is to render out to a Quicktime Animation codec file as my main archive file. From there, output all the various different web versions, flv, etc from that core archive file. Since my projects usually aren't running more than 5 minutes, this leaves me with a nice 3 - 7gig file.
Problem: I'm running CS4 and the media encoder crashes when I input files that are in this file size range. The program locks up when I push start que, and then eventually crashes. Works fine with smaller size files that are about under a gig.
I can run a render out of after effects, which seems to be more stable. But I'd love to be able to use this great new tool.
Here's my machine specs if it helps:
PC
Intel Quad Core Q9550 @ 2.83 ghz
4gB RAM
Windows Vista 64 bit ultimate
All updates current for CS4 apps as of 01/30/08
Running Adobe Media Encoder V 4.01.078
Hard drives are nothing special. 7200 rpm western digital internal and external. I've tried all sorts of hard drive configurations, where the input is coming from, where it's going, etc. No difference.
I have been experimenting with using Lossless AVI's as my "uncompressed" archive file. Works well, but same crashing with the Media Encoder.
Also tried experimenting with frame size alterations during encoding, no difference there. Also, whatever the output codec is, be it FLV, H264, etc. no difference.
Anyone have any thoughts or have experienced similar issues? I hope all my MAC friends aren't right, seems like all my attempts to streamline my workflow with this CS4 and beefy PC combo are crashing and burning.
Anyone else feeling this pain, or have recommendations?
Thanks,

Thomas, thanks for your suggestions on Vista optimization. That Sheer Codec looks nice, but hard justify the cost when I've been working for years with essentially uncompressed codecs that work well. Will play more though to see if the cost would actually pay off in the long run though.
In general I made a decision that it was too early to throw in the towel on my old uncompressed codecs. The Quicktime animation codec has always been for me the safest, most universally accepted, and most reliable "uncompressed" codec. It's always worked in the past, not gonna give up just cuz media Encoder CS4 has troubles.
Mylenium, thanks for the reminder about the silly platform wars. I've always felt the same as you, but when I'm stressing sometimes the silly propaganda can get to me. Makes me forget that no matter what system ya got, it never works perfect!
Here's an update. I have trying my best to learn more about the bug and have come to some interesting realizations. The AME does work with larger files, just not the larger files that I had been using at the current moment. Older files of mine as big as 20GB can be inputed into AME with fine results.
This being said, it scratches out most of the RAM overload thoughts with AME.
The difference with my current files that were causing AME crashes: larger than a few GB, came from AE, had the 1.21 pixel aspect ratio metadata.
When I re-interpreted the file in AE into a square pixel aspect ratio, exported it, it was then successfully inputed into AME.
I have read just now that there were changes in After Effects widescreen pixel aspect ratio interpretation in CS4. Can this change be causing problems in my AME. Not positive, but I'm now thinking after many days of testing that the bug could have its roots somewhere in this ball park.
If anyone from Adobe is reading this, I would love any ideas you might have on this issue. In general, there is really no support for the Adobe Media Encoder itself. This is not good, considering how it is so necessary for AE and Premiere users like myself.
Thanks,

Adobe Media Encoder. Poor FLV Quality

Greets,
I'm using Adobe Media Encoder (AME) to output a CS4 Premiere Pro project at 515x240.
I created a custom "Desktop" Premiere project setup with 515x240 and square pixels. That project previews look fine. The preview in AME looks fine. The output is horrible. No matter what I set my FLV output settings for the images and text are horribly stretched. And yes I am setting the output also for 515x240 square pixels.
Format: FLV
On 2 VP6
515x240
Frame Rate: 30fps
VBR Two passes
Bitrate: 1,500 (AME's default)
Min Bitrate: 80
Max Bitrate: 120
Bitrate Variability: 80
Here is an example... http://www.effectwebmedia.com/video.html
I'm pulling my hair out. Any ideas? Thanks!

A couple things:
1) VP6 and H.264 are codecs that operate in "mod16". What that means is that they begin by dividing a video image into 16x16 blocks, followed by 8x8, 8x4, and 4x4 blocks. This makes for a more efficient encode. Your 240 dimension is fine (240 / 16 = 15), but the 515 dimension could be slightly problematic (515 / 16 = 32.1875). The codec will stretch or compress the image to fit into that dimension, and so can result in a lower quality encode. If you can, try encoding at 512x240, by cropping a couple pixels in the horizontal dimension. May not make a big difference, but it's good practice with these codecs.
2) To me, your original encode looks like the product of Adobe's less-that-capable deinterlacing scheme. You're dealing with progressive assets and a progressive target. I'd submit that the reason your 1280x720 encode looks better is that you're using a progressive preset, with no deinterlacing necessary when exporting. One thing you could check is the field order of your original sequence setup--if it's interlaced, I'd say you have your answer. If it's progressive--well, then I'm wrong :) However, you didn't explicitly say this in your original post, but it's worth a look.
If it is interlaced, I don't think you can change that after the sequence is started, so just create a new sequence with the proper progressive settings, and copy and paste the original sequence contents into that one. Now, when you export, there will be no need for deinterlacing.
Anyway, that's my guess...

Script: add to adobe media encoder

Hello guys!
First of all congrats about the new features, and the badass look of After Effects. I really enjoy it!
But I'm really disappointed to see that the h264 render function is gone. That really destroyed my workflow boom!
Because I have a lot of jobs for an event hall, where I'm doing very often 360 degrees projection mappings, and the global resolution there is around 26 000 px width. What we usually do, because we're using watchout as playback system and handling all the projectors, is splitting h264 movies to theirs maximum width resolution. The things is that for example for an event we have around 20 - 30 animations, and 1 animation is split in 6 movies.. What we usually did - we wrote a small script which splits automatically the movie into 6, pre-compose them all, align them all and renders all the videos with predefined h264 settings. So .... my question now is.. how can I modify my script and set it to send all the pre-composed, resized, aligned, new comps to Adobe Media Encoder and use a predefined h264 render setting? I couldn't find anywhere more info about the scripting bridge between AE and Media Encoder.
Cheers,
Marin
PS: I know that we can use Final Cut Pro or Motion to get more resolution from the h264.. but it's kind of workflow that I used to work.. everything happens in one application.. and no annoying hundred times save as, render as etc

Hi Marin,
It's true that it's a pain to handle the encoding of h.264 outside of AE. You can write a script that calls the app.executeCommand() function and passes in the code that invokes the "Add to Adobe Media Encoder Queue..." found under AE's Composition menu. The correct, numerical, code for that command is 3800. So you would just iterate through the comps you wanted and then open them in the main viewer using the .openInView() method which brings them into focus so-to-speak. Once it's open you can then send the comp to AME with app.executeCommand(3800). On the AME side, you would have to make a default template for the render output settings you would want. When your script adds a comp to the AME queue it will take those settings.
Now, you could do all that, but have you seen AEmpeg that aescripts posted yesterday? It allows you to render to 100s of codecs using ffmpeg right from AE. While it costs some money, at least it will open up the door to a streamlined workflow and a variety of codecs that you might need.
--Arie

Using Adobe Media Encoder to create H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV videos from After Effects - 6/23/14

Very disappointed with this choice. I will definitely be seeking to uninstall this version and go back a version or two. Two many extra steps to export an mp4 now. And now we also have to wait longer for a mp4 to render and can't take advantage of the machine's hardware? You guys fighting mp4 as a standard, forcing us to an additional product, or what? I'll be sharing my extreme disappoint with this 'upgrade' with the rest of the developers at work and who just had it installed. I'm not seeing this being too popular opn social media either. Seems like you only did what was best for you.Thanks for showing us who's boss.

Frank VA wrote:
And now we also have to wait longer for a mp4 to render and can't take advantage of the machine's hardware?
Not necessarily. You can render an intermediate codec with AE's render queue (thus using all of AE's power to render) and then drop that file into the Adobe Media Encoder.
This was the workflow I've always used - even when AE could encode with MP4. Why? Well, because AE sucked at MP4 encoding. You couldn't even do multipass endoding with it!
This is a useful workflow in a few ways:
1. You have an archive-quality file to come back to in the future.
2. You can use AE's full power to render.
3. You can use AME's superior encoding capabilities.
4. You can tweak your compression settings and try various encoding parameters to improve the quality while decreasing the bitrate of your product WITHOUT having to re-render the AE comp every time you try since you're working off of the intermediate file. I mean, imagine a comp with several 3d layers, depth of field, shadows from multiple lights, and 250,000 particles from Particular. What if you made an MP4 and then the client needed a smaller file size or the MP4 you made was too heavily compressed and you needed higher quality? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather only render that 18-hour monster once.
This workflow actually saves time for many people.
And, in any workflow, this produces a better product.
Again, this is what I did even when AE could encode MP4's.
Frank VA wrote:
You guys fighting mp4 as a standard, forcing us to an additional product, or what?
They aren't fighting MP4 as a standard, in fact, when Adobe folks pop in here and answer questions, that's often their recommendation for delivery codec.
Frank VA wrote:
Seems like you only did what was best for you. Thanks for showing us who's boss.
Listen, I understand your frustration. Knocking out a quick compressed file from AE for client review is handy.
However, maintaining the h.264 encoding in AE took up development time. There are only so many person-hours per week for the (relatively tiny) AE team to spend on building each version of AE.
I never liked AE's h.264 encoding - AME has always done a superior job. Since we have AME to do our encoding, I would rather the AE team focus their effort on improving AE as a compositing and motion graphics tool rather than as an encoding tool.
Again, I get the frustration. I can see where it feels like they are doing what's good for them and not us, but I think, in the long run, this way is better for us. Right now, the majority of the AE team is working on making AE faster to work with and faster to render. The sooner we get a relatively bug-free version of that, the better! (Especially for folks on Mac OSX Yosemite who can't RAM preview smoothly in any version of AE).
And at least the After Effects team has been very transparent about things - for example, this blog post talks about their reasoning: using Adobe Media Encoder to create H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV videos from After Effects

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Hi everyone!This morning i have tried to render a video timelapse in photoshop but it showed to me an error which says:''Could not complete the render video command because of a problem with Adobe Media Encoder''.Could anyone tell me how can i fix this error?

Nobody can tell you anything without proper system info or other technical details like exact versions, render settings, details about the source files and so on.
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