Adobe Photoshop Album Features are Similar to iPhoto

QUESTION: Does Apple license from Adobe or the other way around for photo cataloging software?
BACKGROUND TO THE QUESTION: I just now reviwed an online demo of the Adobe Photoshop Allbum software tool. See http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopalbum/starter.html
It looks like good software, so good in fact that to a casual observer, they are both the same thing. The Adobe abum product even has an envelope icon to send a picture into e-mail, versus a posage stamp icon on iTunes and so on.
This is more of a business thatn a technical question, but I was just wondering. Long live the Mac!
iMac 20" Mac OS X (10.4.7)

You cannnot copyright ideas, only the implementation thereof. Imitation is the sincerest from of Flattery.
Regards
TD

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Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0, migrate to iPhoto?

After 20 years owning PCs, I bought my first Mac. I have about 13,000 photos cataloged in Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to preserve my organization in iPhoto (or even if it's possible).
Photoshop Album uses an external database that permits hierarchies, like Places - MD_MontgomeryCo - Rockville eg. I probably have 30 or 40 counties, some with as many as 100 locations.
I don't think keywords are quite the same, although organizing by album might help. I've downloaded Keyword Assistant from a Mr. Ferry iirc, and that makes keywords much more manageable. But I can't imagine tagging to create anything like my hierarchy of places.
Any thoughts or experience?
Oh, and how do you change the headings that seem to be automagically applied to each new batch of imported files?
best, Jon Angel

I have exactly the same problem - except I haven't got my new MacBook yet
I have been doing some research, though, and the chances of getting the tagging out of PSA 2.0 seem very small ...
However, I have found three theoretical possibilities.
1) I have tried the first steps of this 'solution' without any success, but I will mention it anyway, perhaps you are more lucky: There is a PC based photo cataloging application called IMatch (http://www.photools.com/). For this application someone has created a set of scripts, the first of which is capable of extracting the PSA 2.0 catalog into a plain text file (http://www.impulseadventure.com/photo/flow-catalog-imatch.html). I have been unable to make this work, but if you succeed, a second script (mentioned on the above website) should be able to import the tags into IMatch. As I understand, IMatch is capable of embedding the tags as IPTC keywords in the image files. I guess you could use a free trial version of IMatch for this operation, and if you should get this far, it should be possible to import the IPTC keywords info into iPhoto with this script (http://scriptbuilders.net/files/iphotoiptckeywordimportexportutilities1.0.1.html). Well, this was all theory, but maybe it could be useful ...
2) A second possibility is, that PSA 2.0 stores its caption in the EXIF Description field. Assuming you don't use the caption in PSA 2.0, you could go through your catalog one tag after another and write each tag into the captions of all the images, it is attached to. If it's possible to search in the EXIF Description feld in iPhoto, you could reverse the process when you have imported the images into iPhoto.
3) Newer versions of PSA (called Photoshop Elements) exist for the Mac. I guess they must be able to import from older versions of PSA, but I don't know.
I don't know if this is of any use, but I just wanted to share my own thougts of this process.

Adobe Photoshop Album SE 3.2 crashing

Hello everybody.
I'm facing a weird and huge problem: since switching from 3Gs to iPhone 4, when trying to import pictures into PS Album SE 3.2, this software crashes.
After googling a bit, I read about many people facing the same problem. Some of them upgraded to Adobe Photoshop Elements, but still the problem persists.
No real solution has been found, therefore I'm asking here for some help. It doesn't matter to me if I would have to switch to another software, the main goal is to be able to import pictures and still to have a similar way of viewing them as in PS Album or PS Elements.
Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks in advance.
F.

If the iPhone gets connected as a USB device, i.e. if it shows as a new drive in "My Computer", Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition must be able to download images from it. If that's not the case, as has been already stated, it would be a good idea to copy the images using windows explorer i.e.
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Adobe Photoshop Album Starter 3.2 gives error when plugging in iPhone 3G

So, I plug my iPhone iunto my laptop... iTunes opens... Adobe Photoshop Album Starter 3.2 starts up to backup/transfer photos... and then I get:
Fatal Error
Adobe Photoshop Album Starter 3.2 has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
Error code: c0000005
Address: 7c911895
Tried dowbloading app again... didn't help.
HELP! Thanks

I have a similar problem with my new iphone 4, but I never had the problem with my previous iphone 3g.
Your post seems promising. However, you say ''right click on the APD icon in the system tray (it must be resembling a small camera) and select disable''. Unfortunatlely I don't know where to find '' the system tray''. Control Panel has a system folder but I can't find any access to an icon resembling a camera. Also, I am used to using Adobe Photoshop downloader. Since it worked with my previous iphone, can't it be made to work with the iphone 4?
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Converting from Adobe Photoshop Album

I am considering jumping to the MAC platform for my home computers. I think I have all the wireless device and application issues resolved, but one hurdle remains...
I have over 5000 photos edited, annotated, and organized in Adobe Photoshop Album. Is anyone aware of a conversion process to IPhoto 5?
This one issue could keep me on the PC platform...

Thank you for the suggestion, I have tried converting the catalog from the psa file as well as restoring from the psb (backup) file and neither one is working on my new computer. It partially converts the catalog from Photoshop Album (PSA) 2 but then all the file links are broken in Photoshop Elements (PSE) 9. I have about 10,000 photos in this catalog, so it is a lot of files. I still have my old computer so I tried installing PSE 9 on it and then it converted the PSA catalog fine, so I backup up the PSE 9 catalog on my old computer and tried doing a restore from this backup on my new computer and same thing, only some of the files come through.

Move photos from old PC running Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0 starter edition, to new PC running Adobe Photoshop Elements 8.

Hello,
My old PC (Windows XP) has 8500+ photos with loads of tags attached using Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0 starter edition.
I'm trying to move all photos, and tags, to my new PC (Windows 7) . I have installed Adobe Photoshop Elements 8 on my new PC.
All photos have been copied from the hard disk on the old PC to the hard disk on the new PC.
But how do I move the database/tag information between the old and new PC / between' Photoshop Album 2.0 starter edition' and 'Photoshop Elements 8'?
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All tags are correct, but PSE automatically reconnected only approx 5000 of the approx 8500 pictures (the picture directory has been changed)
See this FAQ for how to beat the Reconnect command into submission:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Quickly_reconnecting_large

Cannot sync photos from Adobe Photoshop Album anymore

Dear Everybody,
I recently upgraded my computer and had to reinstall it altogether. I ended up with the foloowing configuration:
WinXP pro SP2
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Quicktime 7.1.6
Adobe Photoshop Album 3.2
As you may have guessed, I use Photoshop Album to organize my digital photos and up to now I was able to sync specific collections with my iPod. Unfortunately this is not the case since I upgraded, after iTunes complained that it could not find my photo software.
I tried reinstalling everything and restoring my iPod without success, now I am desperate for help!
Does anyone have a similar experience or even better, a solution??
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Convert Catalog from Adobe Photoshop Album to Photoshop Elements 13

Hello Community!
I've searched for this question in Google, but I didn't find an answer that helped me.
The old computer from my client with Windows XP OS is getting replaced by a new one with Windows 7.
There was Adobe Photoshop Album on the old one which isn't supported anymore. My client had over 15'000 pictures on his old PC which I've already copied on the new computer. Now he wants his albums, tags and these things from Adobe Photoshop Album back, so I decided to install Photoshop Elements 13 because of the Elements Organizer tool.
Now I've seen answers in forums that sayed that all these informations are saved in the "My Albums.psa" Catalog file, which I've already found on the old computer and copied on the new one. Some people sayed it would work with the "convert" option in PSE, but this doesn't work for me, because PSE doesn't see the .psa file. So I tried to convert my .psa file with this Tool, but in the middle of the progress it says that it failed and that I should try to repair the file in PSE. I'm now stuck here, with several different solutions, and yet I don't know what to do now.
I've read something about the folder structure and that the pictures and folders have to be on the harddisk when trying to convert the .psa file. All pictures are on the new computer, but of course the folders aren't the same on the new OS.
It would be glad if I find a solution as soon as possible from someone in the community.
Thanks and have a nice day!

Finally I could solve the problem.
I tried to import the Backup.tly in Photoshop Elements, but without success. Even there an Error appeared. The conversion tool also still got this failure at a progress of 15% conversion... So I searched a reason for the failure in google and found this helpful article from Adobe. It says that you should look for the corrupt images in the log file. So did I, and I found the error causing picture on the old computer and deleted it. After that I opened Photoshop Album, clicked on "File > Reconnect all missing files" and deleted this picture from the catalog.
Now I didn't want to make the backup again, because the last nearly had 1h. So I decided to try it again by just copying the catalog.psa from the old computer to the new one and to convert it again with the conversion tool. The error came again, but at a progress of 22% So i had to do this a few times: Searching the corrupt image in the log file, deleting it on the old computer, deleting the missing file in Photoshop Album and converting it. And finally, it worked, no error after conversion! I let photoshop elements 13 open the new .pse13 file. Now, all tags and albums were back on Photoshop Elements. Eventually, I let the programm searching the new paths of all the images. It takes a time but it works great now. Thanks for your help, I would recommend the Adobe Community & support!

Migrating photos from Adobe Photoshop Album to Aperture

A while ago I posted to see if anyone had done this but got no replies. I have now managed to migrate my photos and most importantly kept the tags.
The first issue was that Adobe Photoshop Album kept its tags in an inaccesible proprietary database. This was resolved by downloading a 30 day trial version of Photoshop Elements 5 (PC). It appears that Adobe have actually built Photoshop Album in to Photoshop Elements (without telling any of us paid up Album users!). It is all there in PE5. What PE5 adds is an entry in 'File' menu called 'Write Tag and Properties Info to Photos'.
This 'writing' puts the tag information into the keyword IPTC field within the picture file itself.
It was then a simple case of making a backup from the file menu and backing up the whole library on to DVD(s).
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The only one gripe about this process is that PE5 randomly misses out adding tag information to the files. There doesn't appear to be any logic to which files had no keyword information added at all. However, this is a better option than having to re-keyword everything again.
I hope this help some of you.
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Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0

When will we see our Photo iPods be able to use the newest Adobe Photoshop Album software? i was also wondering if there was a way to sort the pictures in Adobe Photoshop Album so that they are sorted on your iPod. yesterday i took all this time to move all my pictures over to Adobe and sort them. when i moved them over to my iPod and they had all been unsorted and throne into one folder. is there a way to stop this? also i would like to see a function on the iPod where i could just drag and drop pictures into a folder on my iPod and they would just show up once i undock. an example of that is with the txt documents and contacts. all you have to do is drop them in a folder and iPod finds them.
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OK, I think I figured it out. PS SE 3.2. works on vista. To transfer tags from an old (winxp)-computer, you need to copy to files: They are stored to different places under xp and vista. XP: Find the files called .../Photoshop Album/Calalog folders/my catalog/tn.4.cache and .../Photoshop Album/Catalogs/My catalog.psa. These two files contains all tags, thumbnails and so on. The problem is that they are stored different places under xp and vista. XP: You find then in the c:/documents and settins/....
Vista: Programdata/Adobe/Photoshop album/....
You can see what catalogs are used in PA SE 3.2 if you press "help->about pa se 3.2.
If you store youre pictures on new catalogs on your new computer, you can use the "Reconnect missing files"-function in PA SE. This works pretty well. I reconnected 2000 pictures within an hour.

Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition vs. Picasa?

Hi everyone..
I have just installed Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0 and I'm wondering about a few things. Bear with me here...
1. I use Piccasa strictly as a picture-viewer program. I'm not 100% happy with it, could anybody pursuade me and my curious friend, why I should switch to Album Starter? I would like that.
2. What I DO like about Piccasa is that it just view my pictures and do not copy them into a special piccasa-format. I have several file-formats in my picture-folder and I would like Album Starter to view all of them without changing the original location of the file, nor copy it, taking up a lot of disk-space.
3. Another thing I like about Picasa is that if I have changed, added or removed a picture in the original file-location it updates those changes when I launch the program.
4. I understand that there are several ways to view your photos. But can you also view and navigate your pictures through folders while you are in Album Starter? Because thats one thing I hate about Picasa, it just place all my folders on the side of the page, meaning it takes them out of their original folder and destroys the dept-folder-system I have made.
5. Does Album Starter have a nice search function?
If anyone could take the time to answer these very bad formulated questions, I would be very grateful.
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1) PSA SE has better organizing tools [tags/collections] than Picassa. There is also a clear growth path if you want something more powerful [Photoshop Elements Organizer is compatible].
2) With PSA SE you keep your image files anywhere you want.
3) PSA SE has limitations in this area. You are encouraged to move files about from within the program.
4) I'm not sure that you'd prefer PSA SE in this respect. You are really encouraged not to think in terms of folders, as that is not a way to organize a large collection of images [say much more than 100].
5) It has various ways to search - what are you after? Using tagging intelligently means you very rarely need to search. [I have use this technology for 3 years and only used Search a handful of time.]

Tried to use adobe photoshop album starter edition 3.0 today and tell me to register

It tells me to register and i will get an email with a 'unlock' code shortly.
I open the email, it says' adobe photoshop album starter edition is no longer avaiable and that i should go to their website and find something else appropriate! I JUST WANT MY PHOTOS OFF ADOBE PHOTOSHOP ALBUM STARTER EDITION that i have already got but it wont let me in at all! i have heaps of photos of my kids as babies and all house and family stuff! WTF! please help if you have a solution. ive had this program over 2 yrs and ALL OF A SUDDEN. out of the blue i cant access it and its tellin me to buy a new version! JUST WANT MY PHOTOS!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP

Starter Edition Answer
Friday, November 27, 2009
8:15 AM
It is a common misconception that Starter Edition 'stores', or copies, your files into it. But the program does not move or copy files at all, rather it scans your system's My Pictures directory, and generates miniature versions of your pictures (called thumbnails) so that you can browse a 'flat' list of thumbnails of your photos, overcoming the inconvenience of having to go into separate folders in Windows Explorer to have to find files.The thumbnails, as well as any tags, and Albums that you create in Starter Edition are all stored in the Photoshop Album catalog file, separate from your pictures, and your pictures remain where you originally copied them to your computer.
If you use Photoshop Album to subsequently download files from a digital camera or scanner, the default location where the program will create those files would be in the My Pictures>Digital Camera Photos folder. But if you do NOT use Photoshop Album Starter edition to download files from your camera, then you will find that folder empty.
The thumbnails in the Starter Edition catalog will exist, even if you decide to move or delete the original photos that were added to the program. This will cause files in the Photoshop Album catalog to become 'disconnected' from the original photos. To reconnect the files, you can use the File>Reconnect Missing files command to see if the program can locate the original files in a new location, and once again re-link the catalog thumbnails to the files they once referenced.
Since Photoshop Album has been discontinued, I recommend that folks find an alternative solution. One alternative that will preserve most of what you've created in Starter Edition is the Photoshop Elements 8 trial. Install that, and it will automatically convert the Photoshop Album catalog to a current format, and the program will not time out, as Starter Edition did. If you want to purchase more Editing power, you can also choose to purchase the full program, but it's not required.
If you are like many who have come to this forum wondering how you can get to your photos, now that the program has become locked or expired, don't worry; your photos have never been moved by Photoshop Album; they remain wherever you intially put them, on your hard drive. To get to them, you can navigate your file system using Windows Explorer. They are typically in your My Documents>My Pictures folder. Here is a handy How-To that you could refer to to find photos on your system, as well as some other tips for how you can use folders to keep your photos organized: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/maintain/filemgmt.mspx
Hope those tips help!
-Mark

Adobe photoshop album starter edition 3.0 shutting down when importing from iphone 4

adobe photoshop album starter edition 3.0 keeps shutting down when I try to import photos from my iphone 4 - it works fine with my wife's iphone 3! Any suggestions?
The follwoing messages appear:
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Welcome to the forum.
Unfortunately, you have posted to the Photoshop Windows forum, which deals with issues on the full Photoshop program. You want to post to the Photoshop Album Starter Edition Forum (a different software).
Good luck,
Hunt

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PLS HELP...... :(
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Hi,
I could follow you till the message "changes will be lost..." I have seen this message too. However, my images did not get deleted from the device after that. In case you are sure that you did not delete the images accidently, you can report this as a bug to Adobe. Just follow the link below:
http://www.adobe.com/misc/bugreport.html
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Version of Adobe Photoshop Album Starter 3.0?

How do I access photos just downloaded in error to an EXPIRED edition of Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Version 3.0?

What you see is a low resolution remnant of the original files, not the files themselves. When a photo is 'imported' into the program, a small thumbnail is drawn, and cached to the database; if the original source files were moved or deleted, then all that remains are the low resolution remnants, not the files themselves.
There have been a few that have figured out how to open the Starter Edition database, and strip out the low resolution thumbnails, but I could not offer advice on how to do that. I would just take screen shots and save those as separate files, but they would be of very low quality.

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