ADOBE-Time for a change in forums

Call me crazy, but if I am one of the top contributers in the CS4 or earlier forums, something is wrong with the status quo.
I know I contribute a lot to the video 'lounge' which to me is basically yapping with friends etc...and socializing, but I definitely don't contribute much to cs4 and earlier.
Nor do I contribute to the CS5, 5.5, 6 forum unless someone is talking about 'art', solutions to 'creativity' and so on. Definitely DON'T contribute to tech stuff, actual program related solutions to tech problems.
I got burned a long time ago by fellow contributers who basically told me " If you don't have this version you are misleading people so shut up " no matter how much time I spent trying to solve the problem.
My suspicion is that many long time contributers are getting a bit burnt out answering the same old questions ...that posters may or may NOT even look at for months. Many answers to questions by posters are simply references to the adobe database of similar problems.
Since we are in a computer revolution etc... ( I don't have the energy to explain this 64 bit vs 32 bit etc not to mention hardware and codecs )...I have a suggestion to Adobe.
Dump the cs4 and earlier forum entirely. Your return on that must be near zero in terms of selling product. Let them go somewhere else.
Dump everything except your latest version ( cs6 )...and leave 'hardware', 'lounge' ( so I can tell people about Godzilla and Snakes )..and CHANGE THINGS.
You ( adobe ) are moving into the future too , with many new market share and delivery system realities... so just go with that, with your latest version.
It's obvious to me long time contributers are getting burnt out, the police dept ( moderators ) dont add as much as they used to ( mostly cause you've used their contributions to improve your product...without giving them what is due them for that IMO ...similar to open source " flight simulator " from MS in the distant past ).
You can only milk this for so long and then it becomes an embarrassment to you as a company IMO. You are at that point.
But leave the video lounge cause I have a lot more to share with my friends before I drop dead.

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and then NO, when I fragment a thread with comments on "scary snakes," or similar
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boy , is my face red !
okay, I'll get serious from now on and even though it's BEER THIRTY ! YIPEE ! ...I will no longer put godzilla in masks of posters inserted image samples re: questions about " what should I do to get rid of those flower pots back there in my frame ?? "
hehe... it is nice to have friends who understand or at least tolerate my stupidity, so thanks.
I think one reason maybe ( guessing here ) about Curt's experience is what Steve's experience was with 'residuals' vs Curt's. He got paid for the work on the books, flat fee, one time deal despite all his incredibly good work to make those books good and comprehensive etc..and it could get sold a million times for another ten years...he wasn't getting anything more for his continued 'input' ( server cost etc defrayed by residuals etc ). In other words, Steve was the 'author' of stuff where he got a small piece for the talent and expertise etc he brought to the table, Curt got one check...and probably ended up putting so many hours into it that he got about $5 / hour ....trust me, I know what artists and enthusiastic people who are really good bring to the table.
Anyway, I'm not here to make things 'right' and have no vested interest in what happens in the future. The only thing I'm dealing with right now in my own life is a documentary I want to do here in MN.
It will take a year at least to outline it, script it, write V.O., get some rights to music synchronization, get someone interested in distribution...and I HAVE NO MONEY for this other than my own meager amount and my own 'interest' in the project.  If I represent a small portion of people in the world who want to make ' things' others can watch and enjoy...then maybe I am part of what the NLE programs are about for users on home machines and small business machines. And of course that NLE has to be Okay with on set shooting and monitors and scopes and the whole range of workflow ( from shoot to end product ).
That's sorta the 'art' part of this in conjunction with the 'end product' part. If someone does something that costs an arm and a leg, takes a year to get done, and the end product is a flop due to export problems, tweening problems or some other stupid problems...it boils down to a 'wasted year of your life'.  Know what I mean ?
Meantime, if we can help make better stuff using this NLE it's important to support one another with that grand design in mind..caring about what posters are trying to accomplish, and helping them get the best results.
So thanks you guys and girl ( Ann ( who hates scary snakes ) ) for your fortitude. And, if Curt ever reads this, don't give up putting in the time ..just get a better contract next time.

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       amtlib.framework   amtlib   6.0.0.75  
       amtlib.framework   amtlib   6.0.0.75  
       boost_date_time.framework   boost_date_time   6.0.0.0  
       boost_signals.framework   boost_signals   6.0.0.0  
       boost_system.framework   boost_system   6.0.0.0  
       boost_threads.framework   boost_threads   6.0.0.0  
       Cg.framework   NVIDIA Cg     
       CIT.framework   CIT   2.0.5.19287   145486
       data_flow.framework   AdobeAIF   3.0.00   62.490293
       dvaaudiodevice.framework   dvaaudiodevice   6.0.0.0  
       dvacore.framework   dvacore   6.0.0.0  
       dvamarshal.framework   dvamarshal   6.0.0.0  
       dvamediatypes.framework   dvamediatypes   6.0.0.0  
       dvaplayer.framework   dvaplayer   6.0.0.0  
       dvatransport.framework   dvatransport   6.0.0.0  
       dvaunittesting.framework   dvaunittesting   6.0.0.0  
       dynamiclink.framework   dynamiclink   6.0.0.0  
       FileInfo.framework   FileInfo   66.145433   66.145433
       filter_graph.framework   AdobeAIF   3.0.00   62.490293
       hydra_filters.framework   AdobeAIF   3.0.00   62.490293
       ICUConverter.framework   ICUConverter   3.61   "gtlib_3.0" "." "16615"
       ICUData.framework   ICUData   3.61   "gtlib_3.0" "." "16615"
       image_compiler.framework   AdobeAIF   3.0.00   62.490293
       image_flow.framework   AdobeAIF   3.0.00   62.490293
       image_runtime.framework   AdobeAIF   3.0.00   62.490293
       LogSession.framework   LogSession   2.1.2.1652  
       mediacoreif.framework   mediacoreif   6.0.0.0  
       PlugPlug.framework   PlugPlug   3.0.0.383  
       UpdaterNotifications.framework   UpdaterNotifications   6.0.0.24   "6.0.0.24"
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    Required plug-ins:
       Accented Edges 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Adaptive Wide Angle 13.0, Copyright © 2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Adaptive Wide Angle.plugin”
       ADM 3.10x16, Copyright © 1987-2008 Adobe Systems Inc.  All rights reserved. - from the file “AdobeADM.bundle”
       Angled Strokes 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Average 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Average.plugin”
       Bas Relief 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       BMP 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Camera Raw 7.0 (308), Copyright © 2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Camera Raw.plugin”
       Chalk & Charcoal 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Charcoal 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Chrome 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Cineon 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©2002-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Cineon.plugin”
       Clouds 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Clouds.plugin”
       Collada DAE 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©2006-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “U3D.plugin”
       Color Halftone 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Colored Pencil 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       CompuServe GIF 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Conté Crayon 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Craquelure 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Crop and Straighten Photos 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “CropPhotosAuto.plugin”
       Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Crosshatch 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Crystallize 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Cutout 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Dark Strokes 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       De-Interlace 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Difference Clouds 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Clouds.plugin”
       Diffuse Glow 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Displace 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Dry Brush 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Eazel Acquire 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1997-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “EazelAcquire.plugin”
       Embed Watermark NO VERSION - from the file “DigiSign.plugin”
       Enable Async I/O 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  © 2004-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Enable Async IO.plugin”
       Extrude 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       FastCore Routines 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1990-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “FastCore.plugin”
       Fibers 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Film Grain 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Filter Gallery 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Fresco 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Glass 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Glowing Edges 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Grain 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Graphic Pen 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Halftone Pattern 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       HDRMergeUI 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “HDRMergeUI.plugin”
       IFF Format 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Ink Outlines 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       JPEG 2000 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©2001-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “JPEG2000.plugin”
       Lens Blur 13.0, Copyright © 2002-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Lens Blur.plugin”
       Lens Correction 13.0, Copyright © 2002-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Lens Correct.plugin”
       Lens Flare 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Liquify 13.0, Copyright © 2001-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Liquify.plugin”
       Matlab Operation 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “ChannelPort.plugin”
       Measurement Core 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “MeasurementCore.plugin”
       Mezzotint 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       MMXCore Routines 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1990-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “MMXCore.plugin”
       Mosaic Tiles 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Multiprocessor Support 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1990-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.plugin”
       Neon Glow 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Note Paper 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       NTSC Colors 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “NTSC Colors.plugin”
       Ocean Ripple 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Oil Paint 13.0, Copyright © 2011 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Oil Paint.plugin”
       OpenEXR 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Paint Daubs 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Palette Knife 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Patchwork 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Paths to Illustrator 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       PCX 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1989-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “PCX.plugin”
       Photocopy 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Photoshop 3D Engine 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©2006-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Photoshop3DEngine.plugin”
       Picture Package Filter 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “ChannelPort.plugin”
       Pinch 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Pixar 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1989-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Pixar.plugin”
       Plaster 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Plastic Wrap 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       PNG 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Pointillize 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Polar Coordinates 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Portable Bit Map 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1989-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “PBM.plugin”
       Poster Edges 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Radial Blur 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Radiance 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Radiance.plugin”
       Read Watermark NO VERSION - from the file “DigiRead.plugin”
       Reticulation 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Ripple 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Rough Pastels 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Save for Web 13.0, Copyright © 1999-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Save for Web.plugin”
       ScriptingSupport 13.0, Copyright © 2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “ScriptingSupport.plugin”
       Shear 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Smart Blur 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Smudge Stick 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Solarize 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1993-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Solarize.plugin”
       Spatter 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Spherize 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Sponge 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Sprayed Strokes 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Stained Glass 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Stamp 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Sumi-e 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Targa 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Texturizer 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Tiles 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Torn Edges 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Twirl 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Underpainting 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Vanishing Point 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “VanishingPoint.plugin”
       Water Paper 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Watercolor 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
       Wave 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Wind 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
       Wireless Bitmap 13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00  ©1989-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “WBMP.plugin”
       ZigZag 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
    Optional and third party plug-ins: NONE
    Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE
    Flash:
       Mini Bridge
       Kuler
    Installed TWAIN devices: NONE
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