Adsl, modem, router & AEBS

I have introduced a Level One broadband router on gateway mode between my x modem and the AEBS. THis seems to have caused the AEBS to start dropping the signal - the effect on the Macs is that on the airport menu we get the message 'airport scanning'. Previously we had a solid signal
Any thoughts? Is it in the setup - should the airport be in bridge mode?

Thanks Duane.
I'm still after the same features I mentioned. ADSL modem for being an ADSL modem, VoIP and QoS, AEBS for everything else.
I tried leaving the AEBS as a bridge, but couldn't reach any ports on anything behind the AEBS, even after putting it in a DMZ on the ADSL modem.
I do now have it working, in case it helps anyone else:-
Billion - NAT and DHCP on, VoIP configured and QoS to throttle everything when a call is active. Assigning a static IP to the AEBS, and putting that IP in the DMZ.
AEBS - NAT and DHCP on (share a public IP address), static IP to my main mac for forwarding some ports, and NAT PMP on which seems to work by auto-opening other ports as needed (i.e. iChat video works with it enabled, and not with it off).
So there 'ya go. May not be conventional (?), but all seems hunky dory.
Cheers.

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