Advantage and diff btw Business service n business system
hi,
can anyone tell me the relevance n usage and importance of business system and business service,
mean when do business service and business systems comes into picture respectively,
thanks,
pratibha
Hi Pratibha,
You genrally create a business system for systems which are part of your system landscape, or else you create business service.
Business Service is created for abstract systems, for example there might be a company which is part of your XI scenario, but their system is not part of your landscape however they ave provided you their interfaces, in this case u will be using a business service.
For example
i have scenario where i have to pick data from mainframe(FILE) and post it to R/3 through XI. Then i would create a business system for R/3 and a business service for the file system.
For business service you will have to assign the inbound and outbound interfaces in ID explicitly unlike for a business system.
Pls go through these too:
Business system: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/7b/d4653fd1d3b81ae10000000a114084/content.htm
Business service: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/fe/131eb4ef2fb344abf471c9eac0063a/content.htm
Cheers,
Ashish
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Kunjal......Hi Kunjal,
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whats the actual difference between Business system and Business service
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1) Business system is a logical system, and there is an importance on physical existence of the system.
2) Also SLD entry is required.
3)It is generally used for SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4)This is defined as part of the SLD and is a physical system whose parameters are well defined.
5(Business systems refers to the physical systems, for instance the R/3 system. You define the business systems in the SLD
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1) You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
2) Business Service is an Absract Unit with Sender and Receiver Interfaces,In this case you need to explicitly add the message interfaces while doing configuration in ID.
3) It is generally used for NON-SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4) This is not defined as part of SLD and whose technical parameters are not completely known.
5)Business service is used when the message is not addressed to a business system. It is used mostly in B2B scenarios.
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/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions
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