ADVC100 vs Decklink Extreme

Hi,
I know this is a sort of dumb question, but before making an investment, I would like to make sure.
We currently use a Canopus ADVC100 to capture video from a BetaSP (using the S-Video input). Because of that, we have to caputre using DV, which as far as I know, already compresses the data. We're now about to buy a Decklink Extreme to replace de ADVC100, and my plan is to start capturing from the BetaSP, using Uncompressed 10-bit.
The only use I have for the videos I capture is to export them to MPEG2 on Compressor and then use them on DVD Studio Pro. When I switch to Decklink, will the quality of my videos really increase? Can I expect a better MPEG2 when compressing from the 10-bit source, as compared to the DV source?
Thanks a lot!
Thiago
S. Paulo - Brazil
Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHz Mac OS X (10.4.4)

When I switch to Decklink, will the quality of my videos really increase?
Absolutely. You will be importing footage at 8-bit uncompressed or 10-bit...and they are FAR BETTER than DV/NTSC. A world of difference. Mind you now, you will need to capture to secondart internal SATA Drives, or external SATA Raids or FW800 drives. FW400 will no longer cut it.
Can I expect a better MPEG2 when compressing from the 10-bit source, as compared to the DV source?
Yes. Expecially where color correction, titles and graphics are concerned. Working with a 4:2:2 color space is far superior to the 4:1:1 5:1 compression of DV.
Shane

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