Advice for faulty logic board (early 2010 MBP)

So my logic board needs replaced.
I went to the Apple store and they told me as it is under warranty that they will replace it for free. Im not sure how its under warranty as its over 4 years old? Although I have heard that this issue is common and Apple are at fault for the logic board issue?
Anyway I get a call a couple of days later to say that as I swapped out my optical drive for an HDD that it has voided my warranty. They now say it is going to cost £416 to fix!
I just want some advice as to what people think I should do really. The laptop cost around £1800 when new but is probably not worth half of that now if it was in working order. Should I suck it up and pay the price? Should I sell the laptop for parts and buy a new model? Should I try another Apple store?
I was also considering swapping the optical drive back in and bringing it to another Apple store but are there records kept of my serial number etc. where they could still tell?
Any advice would be appreciated.

Buy a new computer or fix yours. Apple will provide no support for it since you voided the warranty.

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Hi, and welcome to Apple Discussions. I'm so sorry to hear of your troubles.
Truthfully, I would question whether the iBook with both a dead hard drive and another bad logic board is worth the cost of repair.
My hard drive acted up when my iBook G3 800 Mhz came back from its second logic board repair. I invested in DiskWarrior, and it brought it back a couple of times, but, ultimately, I had to do an Archive and Install to regain use of my computer. That was in July of 2004, and it's still working fine (knocking vigorously on wood).
It is my belief that sometimes the trip to and from the repair facility for the logic board repair involves too much jostling for the hard drive to tolerate it well.
If you really want to get it fixed instead of buying a newer portable, I would recommend that you check out DT & T Computer Services in Fremont, California. They do free diagnostics and will do the repair on the logic board for about the same amount you would have to pay to just buy one. They also do hard drive replacements/upgrades (scroll down on the page). I would ask for a little bit of a break on the installation fee for the hard drive if they have it open to repair the logic board, anyway. DT & T also gives a six-month warranty on the repairs.
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Hi,
I'll start with the issue. Sometimes randomly my laptop goes to sleep while im using it. It is impossible to wake up from this sleep and forces me to force power off the device. Apple did some tests and concluded I need to replace the logic board.
I have a few questions.
I understand they use refurbished logic boards, is it possibly I end up with a worse logic board.
The hard drive does not need to be formated, will they format it? I have backups but I understand time machine can become troublesome after a logic board replacement. I have a very specific set up and I would need it just as it is.
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They very likely will, and they may return it with the version of OS X originally installed.
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I just received today my airport extreme USB netgear device and I must say plugged into the USB 2.0 5-port card I have it is even faster than the Belkin PCI F5D7000 card! But, my question is concerning something else.
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