Advice needed!!! Imac 27"/Canon HV30 capture/FW 800 compatability.

Greetings.
I have been really intrigued by the new 27" i5/i7 Imacs. Basically getting a computer along with the monitor. I realize the expansion short comings, but until I get little busier (or richer) a Mac Pro along with a new display is sort of out of reach.
Has anyone had a chance to actually capture video with FC from a Canon HV30/40 via FW from camera to the FW 800 port on the Imac? Can it be done? I have always hooked up the FW cable from the camera to a FW 400 port on my G5 and I've had no problems.
I'm assuming there would need to be an adapter that makes FW400 plug into a FW800 port, or maybe it's as simple as anew cable.
My last question: If I have a Lacie 1 TB external connected to the Imac via the FW 800, that leaves nowhere to attach camera for capture.
However, on the back of my Lacie, I have a FW400 port. Can I hook the camera to that port and capture video from the camera that way?
If you can't do that, then it seems the only way to capture video from an HV30 is to connect the camera to the FW800 (if possible at all) capture to the start-up drive, and then move all captured files to the external after capture.
Help, please. I need to do something really soon.
Thanks.
Jonathan

There in a nutshell is the exact problem with the imac and final cut. If I were you, I'd take my camera and the drive and hop over to your nearest apple store and try plugging the camera into the drive and the drive into the imac and seeing if you have any problems capturing. Don't forget that canons don't always play nice with other devices on the same bus.

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Hi all
I was using imovie 11 with my old imac (purchased Summer 2008) using the firewire connection to transfer DV/HDV video from my Canon HV30 camcorder (tape). I just bought a new 27 inch imac with the thunderbolt ports and now I am stuck as there is no firewire
The camcorder had a 4 pin firewire output so I have tried the following
Used the original camcorder cable (Firewire 400), converted to firewire 800 with an adapter and then used the Apple firewire to thunderbolt adapter
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Any ideas - thanks
Kevin

Hi epjustin,
What I said in the previous post (Oct 9 2013) works for me but I can try to explain in more detail if that helps.
Firstly. remove the battery or the ac power connection from the camcorder. - VERY IMPORTANT
Turn on the Imac and login
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Now connect the camcorder cable to complete the connection between the camcorder and the computer
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I am trying to capture with my Canon HV 30 camera with Adobe Premiere Elements 7.0
Here are the steps of my unsuccessful captures.
1. Get media
2. HDV Camcorder
3. Capture source: Canon HV30 camera appears in box
4. I can control the playback functions of the camcorder in elementsI(FF,RW)
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6. When I click capture, camera plays but no video is seen in playback window. Only an image with chinese text.
7. When I stop capture, playback window loses image with chinese text and an image of my video is seen.
8. When I attempt to open captured video file, it does not play and properties indicate a file with 1 kb.
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Please help very frustrated user,
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Premiere Elements isn't cleared for Vista 64. It often works, in automatic 32-bit compatibility mode, but occasional driver issues (such as it appears you're experiencing) can occur.
First ensure that you have all the latest drivers. Go to your graphic card's manufacturer's site rather than Windows Update to ensure you have the very latest for your graphics card, per the FAQs to the right of this forum.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/416585?tstart=0
Also ensure that you have the latest Quicktime.
If that and possibly an uninstall/reinstall of Premiere Elements still doesn't fix it, you may need to contact Adobe Tech Support.
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Just found out DV capture has been removed from v13!
The workaround, as per the link (Adobe Premiere Elements 11 * Capture video), would then not play any sound - which I believe is another problem of v13 (No sound on playback with Premiere 13)
That's it for me. The software is going back to Amazon.
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Mixed Canon XL-H1A and HV30 capture - correct workflow?

I have a mixture of HV30 and XL-H1A footage of the same outdoor wedding (actually, 2 Canon HV30s and one Canon XL-H1A). All cameras were in fixed locations. The cameras were all on 'automatic'. Recording on all was in 30F. I captured all the tapes into FC Pro (the new one) using ProRes 4:2:2.
The files from the XL-H1A are marked None for field dominance and the ones from the HV30s are marked "upper".
Is there something I should do to make these the same?
Did I do the capture correctly?
Thanks in advance.

I think you might get more responses in the Final Cut Pro forum.
I also suggest going to www.dvinfo.net/conf where there's a community of experienced people very willing to help with stuff like this.

Connecting Canon HV30 to New Macbook pro with firewire 800

I just received new Macbook pro 2.8 that only has 9 pin firewire 800 connectivity. My previous IMac accepted my Canon HV30 HD video through 4-6 pin firewire 400 with ease, the new laptop will receive the video through 4-9 pin cable but the video color is severely distorted and unusable. Is there a problem with firewire 400 to 800 transfer compatibility?

Yeah, FW400 is compatible with FW800. Only need to find the conversion cable with the correct connectors.Try getting that first and connecting the two, to see if the Mac recognizes it and enables capture. Else visit the camera maker's site to check if they are providing Mac-specific software.

Question about canon HV30

(FCS 2)
I have been shooting DV for a few years, and have had no real issues.
At work, we just bought a Canon HV30. I have never shot in HD. (As I am sure you know) it shoots in 3 modes:
HDV (1080i)
HDV 30 (progressive)
HDV 24 (progressive 24 fps)
Most of our work right now will be for web. Down the road I see us burning HD DVD.
What format should I be using???
Also, I have shot some talking head footage using HDV 1080i.
When do I need to de-interlace? At what stage do I de-interlace? That part has been confusing me.
Should I just stick with shooting progressive?
I really appreciate any advice.

Okay Here's a guide. This will give you some awesome looking footage to work with:
1. Setup your Audio/Video Settings.
2. Sequence Preset: HDV- 1080i60
3. Capture Preset: HDV
4. Device Control: HDV Firewire Basic
5. Video playback: Off
6. Audio playback: Built-in Audio
7. Plug in your HV-30 via firewire
8. Click on Log and Capture
9. The HV30 will auto create scenes when you start / stopped the tape. (Very Useful)
10. After your footage has been captured, open JES Deinterlacer.
You can get it here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html
Make sure you get the right version for your OS.
Now all footage is captured at 29.97 JES Deinterlacer will go in get rid of the duplicate frames and get it at a nice 23.976.
Now in JES do the following:
1. Go to "input" and select the footage you'd like to convert.
2. Put checks in the boxes for: "Top field first" and "video range"
3. In the "Project" tab select "Inverse Telecine" from the drop down menu. Then
check "Detect Cadence Breaks" and "Output frame rate 23.976"
4. In the "Output" tab, check "Progressive" and do a "Direct" output with "Photo-JPEG" as the compressor.
You are going to be changing the footage from HDV MOV to Photo JPEG MOV. There is absolutely no loss of quality in fact it will look so much better than what you captured and will be 24P.
The frame rate on the clips should now be 23.976 with about 20mbs data rate. The original capture files are no longer needed and can be deleted, but first! check your new converted files in FCP. Then delete the original capture files.
Now it's time to bring it all back to FCP
1. Create a new sequence.
2. Change the sequence settings to:
Frame Size: 1440x1080 HD 16x9
Pixel Aspect Ratio: HD 1440x1080
Field Dominance: None
Compressor: Photo-JPEG Quality 100%
Audio: 48kHz 16bit, default config
Check it out in the timeline. I think you will be impressed in the power of that little HV30.
Basically what you just did was when the HV30 records it puts a 60i wrapper around your 24P footage. This method will take off the wrapper and you get awesome looking 24P footage!
- Hope this helps!

Questions - Canon HV30/HV20 users

After reading several reviews I’m thinking of purchasing a Canon HV30 camcorder to do some HD recording. Yet I am proceeding with caution - HD files are huge and I’m wondering in a generally way how my - intel 24” 2.15 GHz - RAM at 3gig iMac will perform? Will it perform real time video captures etc. with this tape based camera? I am a patient sort of person and don’t mind waiting for things to process but is it even reasonable to use this setup for HD.
2nd Question --
– I use iMovie 6 and Final Cut Express 3.5. I have several large capacity FW 800 external drives connected to the iMac I would like to use with this camcorder.
However there's always unexpected things like I have read the Canon HV30 uses FW400 port and does not like any other FW devices connected when capturing video to the computer – So does that include the FW800 port as well?
Perhaps a few of you have some experience with the HV30 or HV20 - I’d like to hear your thoughts on what to expect - would it be a good choice. What are your brags and nags about your HV30?
I know that's subjective but I'm looking for good video quality - ease of editing and having the ability to save the edited movie back to tape. Latter when bluray media and burners get more reasonable I may burn the edited movies to disk.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Steve
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Hi Ron,
Sorry your having problems - If you live near an Apple store or a friend that has latter hardware/software on their Mac try the HV30 at least you wold know if somethings wrong with the cameras FW port or not. Perhaps you can get the camera exchanged. I have head from quite a number of folks their HV30 work fine with Macs, iMovie an FCE.
I went ahead and purchased the HV30 it should arrive early this coming week -
One thing - As I mentioned before in other posts to this board I do have a Canon gl2 and it is very touchy about any other FW devices connected most times the computer will not even recognize the camera. Try the HV30 as the only device on the FW port. I'm using iMovie 6.0.4 and FCE 3.5 I'll post how things go - you have got me a little worried though.
My 2 cents - best wishes,
Steve
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Quicktime - New Video Recording using Canon HV30 - Codec?

I'm using Quicktime Pro 7.4.1 with a Canon HV30 connected via firewire. In Quicktime preferences pane, the HV30 is the video source with "Device Native" as the Quality setting. Though, I can't see a preview in the Quicktime window while recording, it does appear to record footage. When I stop the recording, it says that I don't have the codec to view the footage and sends me to the Quicktime plug-in page on this site, but I have no idea what I need.
Considering some of the codecs (if not all of them) cost money, I'd rather not buy something that won't fix my problem. Anyone have any ideas?
EDIT: Oh yeah, the camera is set to HDV 1080i60 video standard. When I switch the camera to SDV, the Quicktime preview returns and everything works as expected.
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a2043 wrote:
When I try to start a new video recording I receive the following error:
The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -536870206.)
I am using Quicktime Pro on an iMac running Mac OS X 10.6.5. Quicktime will work with iSight but not with my PS3 eye (usb webcam). I am able to choose the PS3 eye from Quicktime preferences and the video screen will show up with video from the PS3 eye (so I know that Quicktime recognizes the cam). But the error dialogue box appears immediately.
Other information - I am using macam.component for Quicktime and the PS3 eye works perfectly with Macam.
Welcome to Discussions, a2043
Has anyone received this error before?
I have not, but I do not use PS3 eye. If it is a "UVC" (usb video class) device, it should work with any Mac running Mac OS X 10.4.9 or later _without additional software drivers_. Some unnecessary drivers can conflict with your Mac's software.
If desired, you can remove the file macam.component from /Library/QuickTime and restart Mac to see if the PS3 eye can work with QuickTime without the additional driver.
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Best Settings using the new Canon HV30 and Final Cut Express HD v3.5.1?

My wife presents programs at schools and uses digital movies that we make and edit as one of her media materials. We want to present higher quality videos that look more film-like. I am hoping that the combination I described above will enable this improvement. In the past we used a Canon ZR20 and iMovie HD and put these on DVD's that were then played on a MacBook Pro with with QuickTime or iDVD hooked up to an Epson PowerLite projector.
I am now the proud owner of a new Canon HV30 and Final Cut Express HD3.5.1 (had FCE for a while so know how to use it). From my research, though, it looks like FCE will not be able to handle CINE MODE recording in combination with 24fps progressive frame rate [HDV(PF24)] which would allow the enhanced effect of the Cinema Mode. I can't justify the cost of Final Cut Studio 2 so I am hoping that the new [HDV(PF30)] will allow me to more easily edit in FCE.
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I know this is a lot to ask for, but I am sure that it will come up again and again as more people purchase this new camera. Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,
Lou Hosta

Without totally repeating myself with my post to MaccyLeopard, I haven't shot any footage yet. After doing a lot of reading I think I confused myself more than helped myself as far as settings go. So if you remember from my initial post I am asking for advice and guidance primarily on camera settings with the HV30 that will be used in a classroom (artroom) setting and then edited using FCE HD v3.5.1. I wish I was the type of person that could jump right into using a new piece of equipment but I like to get the advice of others beforehand. That way I'm not always questioning myself as to 'whether or not is this the best I can get'. I also am wondering if the 30fps frame mode would be the best to use in the classroom setting? From my reading, this mode should allow more light onto the tape allowing me to shoot in conditions with lower light levels that are typically found inside? Finally, is FCE HD able to edit this new 30 fps frame mode of the HD30? I've heard that FCE HD can't handle the 20 fps frame mode.
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Canon HV30 Question

Hello.
I just purchased a Canon HV30. I shot some sample footage in HDV. Then created an easy setup in FCP...HDV 1080i60 Firewire Basic (1440x1080). I captured the footage and placed the footage on the timeline..The footage however needs to be rendered...Is that how it works? All HDV footage needs to be rendered? Or do I have my sequence settings wrong? My sequence is set to 1140x1080 HD 16:9.
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#28 Having to render every clip in the timeline
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