Advice needed RE: Apogee Duet & Firewire ports

Hey guys I have the 2008 MBP and record all my audio to a Lacie (400 or 800)firewire HD.
I just got an Apogee Duet and was just wondering really if it is preferable to have the Duet going into the FW400 port and the HD in the FW800 port, or daisy-chaining with the HD in the FW400 port, or does it make no difference either way?
Thanks very much in advance
Best, Sam.

In my experience, put the AD(Duet) first and follow that with the drive. I've never had problems with that sequence, but I've had weird glitches with the AD following the drive. Shouldn't matter, but it seems that it does.
Thomas Day
Wirebender Audio Systems
651/415-2992
mailto:[email protected]
http://www.wirebenderaudio.com

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Apogee Duet FireWire skipping/stuttering audio

I've bought Apogee Duet FireWire back in 2011 when I had another macbook pro and I believe it was OS X Lion powered. The problem started since I updated to Mountain Lion and next upgrades were the same. There was a time when it was not very clean if the drivers at the official apogee's site are fresh enough. But now I have OS X Yosemite and fresh drivers that claim to be for this system. As to hardware, since Apogee had only FW400 wire, later I bought FW800 wire, and then FW800<->ThunderBolt adapter. So now I use this connection: Duet -> FW400/FW800 wire -> FW800/ThunderBolt adaptor -> MacBook Pro. The audio is working normal in 80% of time, but otherwise there are stutterings of the sound. Is there a way to get rid of this problem? Thank you.
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I just started having problems with my Duet this afternoon and found this thread so I thought I'd give a shout out to you guys to see if you have any ideas before talking with the company....
I've had my Apogee Duet since about feb and never had any problems until this afternoon. For some reason the Duet doesn't seem to want to interface with my computer at all anymore. When plugged in, the lights light up on the Duet however under system profiler I get the "unable to list firewire devices" error msg. Under the Sound tab in preferences, the Duet is not listed as an available I/O. In the Apple Midi Setup or whatever it's called in utilities, the icon for the Duet is still there but it doesn't show it as online. I can still press the big button and the little green light cycles through input 1/input 2 yada yada yada, but the computer doesn't seem to see it. When I open up Maestro, both the control and mixer screens are completely blank. I've tried resetting the unit (holding button down for 5 seconds), using different firewire cords, and finally uninstalling and reinstalling the Maestro software (using the Duet software - May 2008 link on apogees site) and none of these things solve the problem. I haven't had a chance to plug in another FW400 device into my Macbook Pro to see if it's a problem with the port, but I get the same result with the Duet on my MBP and my G5 PPC tower, which leads me to believe it's a problem with the unit. Also, since it's bus-powered, the lights wouldn't light up if the ports on the computer were fried, right?? Has this happened to anyone else?? Any ideas on how to fix it before calling up Apogee?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

OSX Mavericks core audio Apogee Duet firewire

Hi guys,
I've read a lot of posts with core audio problems, with int/ext sound card, USB, firewire etc etc.
So I've been testing my Apogee Duet firewire with the latest updated driver and 10.9.4 Mavericks.
With Console open I just waited for the dropouts/stutter/clicking famous problems.
It happened whit a Youtube video and a song on SoundCloud.
This is a screenshot of what happened during the dropouts and clicks. As you can see many times per second. Like the noise you hear.
I hope that someone read this discussion. I don't know how to send this to Apple. Maybe they can solve finally this system bug.

Unfortunately the same problems here with Edirol FA-101 and 10.9.4 :-(
There were some promises from Apple that it will be fixed from v. 10.9.3, but still nothing...
In my information the problem is with the Fusion drive - but c'mon, it is Apple developed system, for what we paid quite much in extra to be implemented in the system... (and to be fair, it does work well in speeding up the Mac)
I also hope it will be fixed soon!
Bests, g

Vocal hardware advice for L8 - Apogee Duet?

I realise this isn't strictly logic related, but value a lot the opinions & advice I've read here (& don't really use any other forums!!) so hope no one minds me asking...
After a few years of remixing I'm looking to start recording original vocals shortly, & wandered gearwise what my modest budget would best be spent on..
My set-up/situation is currently as follows:
I currently have a focusrite saffire LE, & am mixing 100% in the box. I've only ever used a stereo line in (for DJ mixes from CDJs) & stereo out (to dynaudio BM5a's) so my I/O needs are pretty basic - The few bits of vocals I have done roughly (guide vox etc) have been on a cheapish Audio Technica Mic straight into the saffire. I have some decent quality plugs (Inc Sonnox, URS) but only a budget (& now unused) outboard DBX compressor
My studio is in a single room, so vocals will need to be recorded in the same space, the room is treated with a dozen or so home made rockwool traps but is far from perfect.
I'll be working with a variety of vocalists, from MC's to Female R&B singers so a versatile/neutral Mic would be great.
My Budget is £600-800.
Because of the above, my thoughts initially were as below
1) An apogee duet card (replacing the saffire) OR an voicechannel like focusrite voicemaster PRO or TLA audio (2nd hand) to go into Saffire
2) An SE relexion Filter
2) Rode NT2a or SE3300 Mic (again 2nd hand if neccesary)
Would I get better results from the better A/Ds & inbuilt preamps on the duet, or outboard voicechannel... or voicechannel into a duet???? - any advice much appreciated.
Cheers.
Adam

Hi,
have you been looking into the t.bone mics?
If not - well - they are Neumann rebuilds... I own 5 Neumann Condenser mics . U87,TLM170,M149,M147. After comparing the t.bones to what I own and making the the a>b test looking like a random guessing contest I have stopped buying the brand and only pay for the mic. t.bones are amazing.... I can recommend the SCT2000 though it aint no tube mic.. T.bone also makes tube mics - check this link:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=t.bone&x=0&y=0
THis will save you a bunch of money and I PROMISE you - that you are going to like them - If not - I will personally buy the mic from you to the org. price....;-))))
Since the t.bones are sooo cheap - maybe now you can look into the avalon.... I aint no avalon endorser but I know what a difference a great mic amp makes.... A great mic amp + a mediocre mic will give you a better result than a great mic + mediocre mic amp....
And by the way . t.bone is TOP notch... even their condenser mics for €40 are amazing...
Most people dont believe it - they wanna get neumann - as they think it's gonna make them a hit... Well neumann charges more than double just for the name...
I have a t.bone copy for any neumann I own - and this fare NO ONE has made the blind test...
Good Luck

Apogee Duet Firewire doesn't work in 10.8.4

Help!
I use Maestro 2 (2.5.57)
downloads drivers from http://apogeedigital.com/company/support.php
Mac OS 10.8.4
Previously, I had no problems with the work Duet
Look please my video with my computer with this problem - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ99R3Yhy6A

If it is okay after doing macjack's suggestion, try the Safe Mode.
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27" iMac Firewire Port fails after 300 days of use

I had to take my 27" iMac (purchased in 2012) to the "Genius" bar today because the firewire port failed.
Prior to this:
My Apogee Duet Firewire Sound Interface has given me all kinds of errors with the iMac. I wrote emails to Apogee complaining about the Firewire issues and they gave me a long list of possible fixes, all of which did absolutely nothing. Apogee claims that the problem is Apple's, but when I connected a MOTU Traveler to the firewire port it performed flawlessly. Many people had complained online about the awful performance of the Firewire Duet with Lion OSX so I wrote back to Apogee demanding that they replace the device with their newer USB "Duet 2" and they chose to ignore my email. So I went back to dealing with the intermittent cutting out of the Duet which is only remedied by either restarting the machine or unplugging & reconnecting the Duet.
2 days ago:
The Apogee Duet stops working (like so many times before), so I unplug the Apogee Firewire 400-to-800 cable and this time when I reconnect, it starts rapidly blinking and clicking, so I quickly shut the iMac down. After a waiting for a few minutes I plug the Duet in and it's dead -no lights & no click. To determine if I'd just killed my Duet, I plugged it into my 2009 Macbook with a Firewire 400 cable and the Duet works. So I think.."Maybe it was the Apogee FW400/800 cable". Next day I bought a new Firewire 400/800 Cable and connected the Duet to the iMac and I still got absolutely nothing. So I booked an appointment at the Genius Bar.
Today:
The helpful gentleman there quickly discovered that the main-board needed replacement because the "newer" iMacs have all the I/O stuff attached to the motherboard. It would have cost me 800 bucks with out a warranty. While I was there, I tested my original Apogee Firewire 400/800 cable with a Macbook pro and it worked fine, ruling out the possibility that my cable could have caused the Firewire port to fail. Lastly, I asked him to connect a Thunderbolt-to-Firewire Adapter to my iMac and - yes - the Apogee Duet worked fine through the Thunderbolt Port.
In Conclusion,
I'm glad that they are going to repair this problem but it would appear I really have no choice but to extend my "Apple Care" since, in my experience, the Firewire port can spontaneously fail. As a full-time musician it's lucky for me this happened while it was still under warranty, otherwise I probably would have just bought the Thunderbolt-to-Firewire Adapter and hope the Thunderbolt ports last longer than the firewire did.
Has anyone else had their main-board replaced due to Port Failure?

Not because of Firewire, but yes, my 2007 iMac had to have extensive things replaced twice under extended AppleCare.
I personally think $2,000 dollar items should come with more than a one year warranty, unless you expect them to die shortly after a year.
Didn't need any warranty on my Quadra/630, still runs every day, they don't make Macs like they used to.

Monitoring effects in audio recording via Apogee Duet

I had to delete Logic preferences to connect Logic Remote. As a result I have lost effects in headphones out of Apogee Duet Firewire. I can only monitor clean. Is there an obvious fix? (Logic x , Yosemite, Apogee Duet 2 firewire)

It was a Bus (and human) error in Logic Mixer. Sorted, Thanks.

How to find what type of firewire port I have

I need to import video from an older camcorder with a Firewire cable. Under my hardware it says "up to 800 MB / sec. but it doesn't say what type of port it is. I need to buy one, but not sure what to get. I looked at the port and it doesn't look like there are "pins"
My computer is an IMac G5 w/intel proc. about 2 years old.
thanks for help

Hi, no "pins" per se...
FW800 port...
FW400 port...
Then you need to see what Firewire port/cable your Camera needs...
http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/firewire1394cables

Apogee duet - no sound - mac mini server OSX 10.9

Hi
all posts relating to my query are very old so I pray someone can help with an updated solution.
I purachsed an Apogee DUET FIREWIRE to work with ABLETON LIVE 9 on my MAC MINI 2011 i7 16gb runing OSX 10.9.5 (ok - so i can see alreday that I am not on YOSEMITE - but the APOGEE driver application states its for 10.9 and 10.10). It second hand
Dowloaded the nec software from Apogee site, plugged in, Duet recognisedstraight away....then NOTHING !
No output. changed system settings accordingly. NOTHING. when I click on the drop down in ABLETON it HANGS for ages. Then after its selected, the track doesnt play....
So It tried ITUNES. Same. after clicking play NOTHING happens - track status bar does not move. When I re-select the mac output (through my stereo / headphone socket) I can hear itunes / Ableton perfectly.
I am sensing this is a driver issue.? I wont lie to you - Im a NEWBIE to MACs. Converted this Xmas - but I seem to have picked up a well stocked MINI MAC - but is a there a school boy error here I am missing?
BTW - just to be safe Ive ordered a new 400-88 firewire cable just in case...as apogee came with a 800, 9 pin to 9pin cable, so I am using an adaptor (which again may be the probem - even though its high quality),...new cable will arrive tomorrow.
MANY THANKS - NICE TO FINALLY GET A MAC !!
Jof

I think you're trying too hard...
I have zero tech or network expertise, but my Mac mini server intalled without a hitch on my home network of three other Mac desktops (Ethernet from AEBS), a MacBook, and a PC laptop, both via the AEBS wireless. The AEBS is connected to a cable modem.
I also have a static IP for my AEBS.
If you hook up your server, computers, and AEBS first and then reinstall Mac OSX Server, the server set-up will configure your network for you. You shouldn't have to set your own IPs at all...
I'm no genius at this stuff and I'm mostly playing around and experimenting, but we use file sharing, a common calendar, a family Wiki, centralized backup, and also run iTunes continuously to serve an Apple TV.
Let Apple do the work for you. See if the defaults work before tweaking it. It worked out of the box for me... Good luck.
Charlie

Apogee Duet (1) not working on Mavericks

I had been on Snow Leopard and Duet worked fine. Upgraded to Mavericks, now it does not.
I plug it in initially (after reboot) and sound comes through the Duet. If I touch any volume control, the sound cuts out. In Maestro, the controls are all very finnecky, can't select any options. If I unplug and replug, still no sound comes through. Assuming it's a problem with Maestro compatability, but I've heard that Mavericks isn't really playing nicely with other non-apple hardware either. Suggestions?

Guys see my thread - https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5493304
For those of you who are using Apogee Duet (Firewire or USB) and just UPDATED to Maverics - DONT INSTALL NEW APOGEE DRIVERS!
The reason is - once you install new driver, software volume control keys (on your keyboard) wont work! You will have to use DUET's knob which is not always confortable.
There is no fix for this yet and maybe wont be, because of Apogee "great" costumer support - (such problems with DUET first appeared in Lion)
If your drivers from Mountain Lion (or older) works fine, dont update it or reinstall it. You will be unable to install previous version in Mavericks.
If you're the one who installed fresh copy of Mavericks from USB Flash, i dont think there is a way to fix the problem. One thing that i didnt try was using Pacifist to force replace driver files.
Hope this message was helpful
Seems like this problem appears not only on Duet, but on al Apogee products.. =(

Apogee Duet doesn't show up at all in mavericks

Hello !
I got the Apogee duet firewire...
No problem at all with mountain lion.
But now i'm in a recording session, and i moved to mavericks, my Apogee doesn't show up.
I installed the new firmware form apogee site, same ! no apogee, no controls in Logic.
I'm trying everything i can imagine but .... same result !
Please help
Thks
Arnaud

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Duet Firewire Not Recognized By Mac Mini 10.10.2. Yosemite

Hi Everyone.
I'm attempting to put back together my home recording studio. I recently purchased a new Mac Mini 10.10.2. The mini just WILL NOT recognize my older, tried and true Duet Firewire interface. I'm using a Firewire to Thunderbolt adaptor, and nothing. I installed the proper Apogee Duet Firewire drivers. Maestro 2 shows up just fine but gives me, "No Apogee Systems Found". The Duet also does not show up anywhere else that it should either. The unit doesn't light up. Nothing. I found a thread that began with one other person complaining of the same problem while using the same OS and hardware but unfortunately their was no solution posted. Is ANYBODY familiar with this problem? More importantly, does anybody know of a solution? PLEASE?????!!!!!
I've darned near blown my wad financially, I'm frightened and I'm so frustrated. HELP!
Thanks a lot to anybody, everybody.

Have you went to Duet's support site?

Need advice on how to get the MBP firewire port to like... work ?

Bonjour, from France !
Ok my firewire port does work when it has to mount a drive.
But it really makes the biggest mess in the universe when it comes down to streaming audio data to my external firewire sound card, a t.c. electronic konnekt 8. Ok ok I see you guys comming with the "read the notice of your soundcard you idiot" answers ! But it's not just me. My brother has a firewire m-audio audio interface on his intel iMac (first generation) and he is having the same mess, and a friend also had another m-audio firewire model and had the same problems. Of course, drivers are up to date.
The problems are : mainly random clicks and sound gaps when playing audio, sometimes lasting a few seconds - sometimes loss of synchronisation leading to strong sound degradation.
So my question is : this issue is obviously a general (mac ?) firewire related issue as several configurations have experienced it. Does anyone out there know how i could fix it ?
Thanx for your time,
Michael
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Using Firewire to Thunderbolt adapter for Apogee Duet

My question is two-fold.
I currently run Logic Pro 9 on my mid-2011 I-Mac. I am looking into purchasing a new apple laptop to run Logic Pro 9 on mainly for the advantage of portability. From what I have read so far I would benefit from the processing power of a Macbook Pro over the Air. Does anyone have input on this or experience running Logic 9 on these newer machines?
The second part of my question involves my recording audio interface -- the first generation firewire apogee Duet. If I were to get a new generation laptop it would not come with a Firewire 800 port. To circumvent this I would need the adapter linked below:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r
The reviews indicate that it is not great for bus-powered external drives. Would the Apogee interface be in the same boat as these?
Would I want to trust sending audio signal through and from the computer with an adapter in between?
Any input or experience with this would be awesome. At worst, I could use a newer laptop for mixing and not tracking. And then upgrade my audio interface to the newer generation Duet at a later time.
Thanks!

I've been searching for such a device too. I need to perform a data transfer to MBA from a MBP and FW800 drive. For now, I can hook it up to a MBP and use AirDrop or simple wireless transfer...
This site keeps news on new peripherals: http://thunderboltreviews.com/
The Belkin Dock looks promising, but still expensive. Simple adapters are still aways and the first ones out are going to cost a pretty penny still (~$30-$40 is my guess). The dock from Belkin may be worth the cost in that sense. Except it seems to need an external power source.
Sigh, Thunderbolt hasn't really come out with a bang, but just more of a sizzle...sorry for the pun.
Someone had come up with a concept Apple Thunderbolt Pro Display. It was pretty cool. Built-in discrete graphics card, bluray superdrive, and all the ports you would ever need (among other things). Oh how I wish Apple would be willing to build such a thing.
Anways, let me know if you find a simple TB to FW800 adapter.

What connectors do I need for my ipad so I can connect it to my apogee duet 2 interface essentially using the ipad as an instrument utilizing a few of the synth and drum machine apps to record tracks into Logic on my Mac?

Ok, so I completely feel like this is a stupid question for those of you already in the know and recording tracks onto your Computers DAW from instrument apps on the iPad and other i devices. I can not seem to find out exactly what connector or unit I need to be able to connect and use my ipad as a instrument to record tracks onto logic. I have an ipad2 that I want to connect to my apogee duet 2 interface which is obviously connected to my Mac. I know Logic comes with plenty of drum and synth options but I still want to be able to use beatmaker, jam up pro and the sunrizer synth apps on some of my tracks. I do have the camera conversion adaptors. So my question is, do I just run from the camera adapter in the ipad into the midi port on my apogee interface? (I'm new to and still learning about midi) Or is there a special 30 pin cable I need to get that runs from the ipad into the XLR or quarter inch in the break out cables on the apogee? I did find one cord out there that plugged into the ipad and had left and right XLR connectors but my duets break out cable only has two inputs each is their own channel. Also , if the cable I need isn't midi and does connect to the breakout cables, do I set it as an instrument or as a mic in the apogee software? Or am I completely way off base and needing something different all together. Any help would be much appreciated!
I have a fare amount of experience when it comes to recording, set up and the flow of standard instruments, using external hardware and plugins. But the last few weeks I spent a lot of time programming some great beats in beatmaker on my ipad and I want to track them into Logic. It seemed like no matter how I worded the questions when researching what I thought was and should be simple to figure it out, it just took me to answers I wasn't looking for. Thank you ahead of time. Like I said I'm just starting to get out of my comfort zone and learn about midi and the more digital side of things. So sorry about any ignorance concerning that side of things.

The new Apogee Duet for iPad and Mac, is compaible with iOS devices and includes a USB Midi input. This sounds like the perfect solution for your workflow.

Advice needed RE: Apogee Duet & Firewire ports

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