Advice on hand held camera effect

hi there,
I'm after some advice on creating a hand held camera wobble.
let's say i have a scene with a locked off camera shooting a talking head. i assume i make the footage layer 3D and then introduce a camera layer. but what kind off parameters should i look to animating? and also what kind of kfs (linear, bezier?), durations and amplitudes etc.
i suppose i should use the wiggler to randomise these.
I have asked this before and got some helpful advice about how the arm and wrist move, but i've tried to put these ideas into practise and i'm not quite happy with the results.
so, has anybody introduced fake camera wobble that they're really pleased with, and could give me an idea on how they did it?
cheers

Great! thanks for that, Steve.
I don't suppose you happen to know where i can get the tutorial on its use do you?
I think i've installed it correctly using the pdf instructions, but the videos on the site won't play for me. missing QT plugin apparently, but my pc is telling me there is not a suitable on the site?
i've given it go with some footage in AE but it doesn't seem to be doing anything and no sign of any expressions.
thanks

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