Advice on settings please MSI K7N Delta

Hi, I recently boought the MSI K7N Delta-L nforce 2 Motherboard and installed it all etc... everything works but I decided to run a few benchmark tests and im scoring very low and just wondered if I have the BIOS set up correctly. If anyone could off me some advice and check over my settings that would be fantastic.
AthlonXP 2500 (Set the FSB to 200mhz to turn it into 3200 XP)
MSI K7N Delta L motherboard - Bios version 5.60
512mb DDR PC2700 Ram (2 x 256mb Sticks)
ATI Gigabyte Maya 2 Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb - Using 4.3 catalyst drivers
Windows XP Professional - With SP1 and latest updates from windows update.
Sound Blaster Live 5.1 - Using latest creative drivers.
That is my system, I have wrote down my BIOS settings and they are as follows:
ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES
System performance - High Performance
CPU FSB - 200Mhz
x CPU interlace - High performance
x FSB/Dram ratio - Auto
Current Dram clock - Auto
x Memory timings - High performance
x T-Ras - 7
x T-RCD - 3
x T-RP - 3
x Cas latency - 2.5
FSB spread spectrum - Disabled
AGP spread spectrum - Disabled
AGP x8 Support - Enabled
AGP Fast writes - Enabled
System Bios cacheable - Disabled
Video RAM cacheable - Enabled
AGP Aperture size - 256mb
FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE CONTROL
AGP clock control - Manual
AGP clock value 70
AGP voltage adjust - 1.6
dram voltage adjust - 2.6v
CPU ratio - By H/W
CPU vcore select - By H/W
PCI Clock auto detect - Enabled
When I run the benchmarks I run a program called enditall which closes down everything running in the background. It ends everything Just leaves the basics running. I have also disabled onboard sound since im using my sound blaster live.
I have got the nforce system drivers 3.75, I used MSI live update for those as well as the bios updates.
If anyone could offer me some advice and point out what I should change that would be great.
Thanks in advance

Well I play alot of games and considered my new pc pretty good. So I installed Championship Manager 2003/04 and on my old athlonXP 2000 system it ran pretty slow, so I thought with my new system it should be alot better. So I defragged,scan disk, got the latest patches for it, got ready for some action and it still runs slow!. I installed call of duty and various other games and the peformance increase isnt much better to be honest. So I decided to install 3dmark 2001 se and see what kind of scores im getting. I was getting 12000 before I started this thread and now im getting 14000 after I did the ratio to 1.1.
But other people using the same processor ,ram etc.. same drivers and same spec machines as me are getting 17000 + scores and I'm trying to at least get over 15000 .
And Im not entirely sure if my BIOS settings were correct as it is the first motherboard I have installed and setup myself and was looking for advice on how best to improve performance as well as double checking my bios settings from a expert like yourself.

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HELLO??? IT SIMPLY DOESN'T RUNS!!!
you expecting help adopting that tone?
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Guys...
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