Advice on UK-sourced 3.5" SATA enclosure w/ FireWire400

Hi,
Following a breakdown and a miserable experience with Pixmania, I'm currently desperately seeking a SATA enclosure for a 3.5" SATA drive, and it must have a FireWire 400 port (actually two, so it can be daisy-chained if necessary).
Macally are too expensive, and Wiebetech don't seem to have a good supplier in the UK. OWC (www.otherworldcomputing.com) offer a good range at reasonable prices, but purchasing outwith the EU carries risks, as I'm not covered by Distance Selling regulations.
I'm not interested in USB2.0 as I don't want to suffer the loss of speed inherent in the product when the bandwidth is shared, and besides, you can't boot from USB2.0 on an iBook G4 (at least, not without a hack I'm unwilling to perform).
I'd like to spend £40, and at that price it'd be nice if the enclosure was fanless.
I have tried many High Street (local Apple Reseller etc.) and online retailers (Pixmania - boo hiss; eBuyer; Dabs.com; StorageDepot - they only carry the same model as just broke on me, although under a different label; etc.) and had no luck.
Any advice on procuring this item in the UK or, at a pinch, the EU, would be much welcomed.
Thanks,
SiR G.

Hmmmm!
OK, have you tried these?
http://www.shop21.uk.com/en-gb/dept_30.html
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/productlister.aspx?n=2,13&n=65&source=AffiliateWind ow
http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm?Criteria=sata%20hd%20kit&title=Exter nal%20Serial%20ATA%20Enclosure%20Kits&source=googlesata31707&sort=a&&gclid=CJ22Zv7YsCFRcoZwodE19GRQ
http://www.macheaven.co.uk/?page=proddetail&prod=21832
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Products.aspx?action=showproduct&id=309&type=41
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/catalog/category60_Hard_Drive_Enclosures_page1.html
http://www.2ndchancepc.co.uk/ex-hdd.html?sub_cat=729
Information on ATA6:
http://www.computerhope.com/help/ide.htm#02
SATA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
OK?!

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