Advice Using iPhoto and Aperture

Greetings - I've been a Mac user for 19 months and now have 3 Macs. I've been using iPhoto and enjoy it (my wife loves it as well). I am toying with picking up Aperture for my RAW photos. Here's my question -- I'll likely keep my photos separate from the iPhoto library. However, I would like to export edited photos from Aperture to place in my iPhoto albums (in iPhoto, I have my photos in folders by year, then within the years, I have albums of events). For example, I may have an album in he 2006 folder called Labor Day Weekend. If I import my RAW photos into Aperture, and decide that I want some of them in the iPhoto 2006 folder in the Labor Day Weekend album, can I export a copy to that album? May be a silly question, but this is a consideration for me.
Thanks, in advance!

Yes,
Since one of Aperture's primary function is to maintain a digital library it is important to have the ability to export files out of it.
Aperture gives you several format choices, NEF, JPEG (of varying quality), etc. You can then import them right into iPhoto as desired. I often do some photo-touching, then import in iPhoto, as I like. You can send retouched or originals. Quite a bit of flexibility

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Anyone using iPhoto and Aperture??

Apple newbie here...I have iPhoto and Aperture on my iMac. I've been loading new pics onto iPhoto and Aperture, but am guessing it's taking a ton of storage space with duplication? Just wondered what more experienced users are doing???

BAckup to CD & DVD, you'd be able to do something similar with either product so I'm not sure that would be much help in deciding.
(And BTW backing up to CD/DVD's may not be your best option given all the changes in technology but thats a different discussion )
So yes you probably have some duplication going on. I'd be leery of deleting anything until you know for certain just what is duplicated and where. Depending on your import settings things may not be as clear as they might seem.
So it would seem you still need to make a decision iPhoto or Aperture. To get you thinking Aperture is clearly the more advanced program from both the standpoints of image management and image adjustment. It also has a hefty learning curve and places more demand on your hardware.
iPhoto has been around a long time and seems to fit the needs of most casual shooters. It has some nicer consumer oriented features as far as themes for slideshows and books and in the image printing end, postcards and letter paper and such. Some of these features would still be accessible to you if you were using Aperture via the media browser.
Hope this helps.

Print quality difference between iphoto and aperture...?

when ordering books, is there a print quality difference between using iPhoto and Aperture? or are they sent to the same lab?
it's possible i may have some setting wrong, but when i order a book using iphoto, i never really feel the quality is that great. it's good, i just feel it could be a lot better. the print quality sort of reminds me of newsprint, albeit high quality newsprint. similar sized prints made at home on my basic 3-in-1 printer look better.
thanks...

Previews are what you view on your display. When you import a photo into Aperture (and I'm pretty sure iPhoto as well), your computer automatically generates a preview for quick viewing. The original images are stored in your library, but it is the preview that you see.
In Aperture, you are able to set the size and quality of these previews. When sharing photos between Aperture and iPhoto, the process is as follows:
Let's say that your images are stored in Aperture, but you also want to be able to view them in iPhoto without taking up too much room on your hard drive. Essentially, if you were to import the originals into iPhoto as well, you would be storing two exact, yet separate copies of the same image on your hard drive. As you are aware, with large images (whether JPEG's, and especially RAW) this would put quite a tax on your storage capacity after not too long.
So, you have your images in one or the other (in this case Aperture), but you want to play around with them in iPhoto. What you can do, is open iPhoto, go to the File menu and then select, Show Aperture Library. This will open a window with all of the contents of your Aperture Library. You can then drag any images you want into iPhoto . The only thing is, you are not dragging the original JPEG's, but rather, the previews of those images. If you have those previews set to a lower quality (again for capacity concerns), you will only have lower quality and lower detailed images in iPhoto. These images might not be ideal, or even suitable for printing high quality prints. The previews that you generate in Aperture though can be adjusted to be extremely high quality with no size limits.
My thinking was that since you mentioned Aperture, it sounded like you had experience with working with it and with ordering a photo book through Aperture. I guess you were saying that you ordered via iPhoto, weren't happy with the quality and were wondering if Aperture created books were better.
Anyway, if this is the case, I cannot answer that for you. I have never ordered a book through Aperture. If the quality of your images is good, you should be able to get a decent product no matter where you order it from. There is not doubt that the materials used and the print shop that does the work makes a difference, but if your images are good, you should still get a decent product through iPhoto. Perhaps iPhoto isn't the way to go though if you have had poor experiences with them.
If you haven't used Aperture yet, I would highly recommend it though aside from the photo book aspect of this thread. It is a stellar product.
I hope this helps.
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IPhone - how to sync with iPhoto and Aperture at the same time ???

I'm having a really hard time with syncing my photos - I'm using iPhoto and Aperture on my Mac. When I launch iTunes and start managing my iPhone, it seems like I should be able to sync photos from a variety of sources all at once (iPhoto, Aperture, other folders).
However, whichever option I select in the photos drop-down becomes the only libraries that are available to sync. What I mean is that if I select some of the Albums in my iPhoto list and sync those, when I later drill down to Aperture and select albums from there and perform a sync - then the previously synced/loaded albums and photos from iPhoto are automatically removed from the iPhone.
Why can't I sync between multiple photo albums / sources at the same time? This is incredibly annoying.

Here's how I solved this problem:
In Aperture, select File -> Import -> iPhoto Library
Then under the "Store Files" dropdown, be sure "In their Original Location" is select. This will allow Aperture to see your iPhoto library, but it will be managed by reference rather than phyisically imported.
Now, in iTunes, select Aperture as the application from which you want to synch photos, and select the option to synch specific albums.
You should be able to see the names of albums in iPhoto as well as those created in Aperture.

IPhoto and Aperture together...plus 2 Mac's

I'm trying to figure out the best way to organize my photots so that I can use iPhoto and Aperture together. A possible workflow is to first, import photos to iPhoto then use Aperture by importing but leaving photos in their current location. Not sure which way is the best.
Also...anyone working with 2 Mac's? I have a MBP which I use for everything yet want to get the photos on the home iMac so that my family can view them. Anyone have any ideas how to best deal with this?

Three option:
1. as you describe you can export from Ap and import to iPhoto on the other machine.
or, if you have brought the images to iPhoto already:
2. Link the machines together (wired or wireless) and used iPhoto sharing:
Enable Sharing in your iPhoto (Preferences -> Sharing), leave iPhoto running and go to the other Machine. There, enable 'Look For Shared Libraries'. Your Library will appear in the other source pane.
Remember iPhoto must be running on both machines for this to work. You can drag images from the Shared library to the host on the iMac
3. Use iPhoto Library Manager to move pics/albums/events and metadata between iPhoto libraries.
Regards
TD
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HT204655 How to have a unified Photos Library after migrated from iPhoto and Aperture?

The "HT204655: Get started with Photos for OS X" do not help. If you have previously used iPhoto and Aperture, when you "migrate" the iPhoto, then follow the steps to "migrate" the Aperture library, you end up with 5 files in your Pictures folder: Photos Library (from iPhoto), Photos Library 2(from Aperture), iPhoto Library (Not sure if can be deleted or not - of course no), Aperture Library (for some reason blank), Aperture Library 2 (Created by Photos?).
So, looks like a mess and no easy way to make a clean migration.
I've a hope that exists a solution to have a single Photos Library with the merged iPhoto and Aperture contents, like a real migration.
If I export everything (From iPhoto and Aperture) then import in the Photos in a single Library should work, but will lose all the organization, faces, etc...

You could merge libraries with iPhoto Library Manager, but I never tried this for merging Aperture 3 libraries with iPhoto 8.
Are you planning to keep all your photos in iCloud? Then consider to merge them in iCloud, but it will take a long time.
Are you using iCloud Photo Library (Beta) and have enough iCloud storage for the merged library?
Wait, till your current Photos Library has been completely uploaded to iCloud.
Then quit Photos, and launch it again, while holding down the alt/options key. Select the old iPhoto lIbrary.
When the upgrade of the old library has been finished, make this library the System Photos library (in the Photos Preferences > General).
Enable again iCloud Photo Library (Beta) in the Photos > iCloud preferences.
Now Photos will upload the new library to iCloud as well and create a merged library in iCloud. After this merged library synced with your Mac, you will have a merged Photos library.

Using both iPhoto and Aperture workflow help

I am using both aperture 3 and iPhoto 9 to edit and keep track of images
I imported images to iPhoto the have Aperture import the iPhoto library this way I have i library..I know if something happens to it I am screwed
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program

Here's the best advice for using both iPhoto and Aperture:
Pick one horse and ride it. They both do the same job. If you're shooting Raw or high volumes of Jpeg, then definitely go with Aperture. If you're doing family snaps with a point and shoot stick with iPhoto. Using both adds unnecessary complexity to everything, and with complexity comes the risk of error and data loss.
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
Yes. In a wholly different way, mind you, but yes. WHen you edit an image in iPhoto it creates a new file called the Modified Version. You can always revert to the Original photo. If you edit only with iPhoto then you can also avoid generational loss.
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
No.
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
You can't.
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program
It makes no sense to use both programs.
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
What are you hoping to achieve by running both?
Regards
TD

Use both iPhoto and Aperture with one library-best practice?

I'd like to use both iPhoto and Aperture, but have both programs use/update just one photo library. I have the latest versions of both programs, but was wondering if the optimum approach would be to:
a)point Aperture to the existing iPhoto library and use that as the library for both programs
or
b)import the entire iPhoto library into a new Aperture library, delete the iPhoto library, and point iPhoto to use the Aperture library.
I should point out that up to now I've been using iPhoto exclusively, and have close to 20K photos in the iPhoto library, tagged with Faces, organized into various albums, etc; if that makes a difference...
Appreciate any advice!
Thanks,
Dave

Thanks Frank! I'll try it that way.
Appreciate the help!

I cannot afford an iMac, can anyone recommend a widescreen Monitor for my 15" MacBook Pro. It would be used mainly for iPhoto and Aperture.

I cannot afford an iMac, can anyone recommend a widescreen Monitor for my 15" MacBook Pro. It will be used mainly for iPhoto and Aperture. TF

Pair a wireless KB with the laptop and all should be well when you attach the laptop to the iMac and invoke TDM. But as Denny mentions, it does seem like the waste of a good iMac to use it in just this configuration. Why is the laptop primary?

How do I rebuild a common library used by both iPhoto and Aperture?

I'm using a common library for both iPhoto and Aperture—latest versions of each and Mavericks. I'm finding photos that are in the library that seem to have fallen out of their events or projects. When I open those events or projects, the folders are empty, however the photos are still in the database. How do I rebuild this library so as to recover my original organization?

it will not matter, if you rebuild in iPhoto or Aperture.
You rebuild the library by launching either Aperture or iPhoto while holding down the key combination⌥⌘ (option-command) and double-clicking the Aperture or iPhoto icon. Keep holding down the keys, until you are seeing the Library First Aid panel. Select to Rebuild the database.
Back up your library before rebuilding.
When I open those events or projects, the folders are empty, however the photos are still in the database. How do I rebuild this library so as to recover my original organization?
Where are you seeing the photos, that are missing from the projects, but are still in the database?
Rebuilding will collect photos, that have lost the connection to the edited versions, and show them in a "Recovered Project". It will not restore them to the original projects, if it is not clear, what where the originals belong to.
Have you checked, if you have filters set, that are hiding the photos? Check the search fields in the browser and the Info panel, if they are cleared and set to "Show All".

Can I use both iPhoto and Aperture on the same library?

I like some of the features of iPhoto (like faces and places) but prefer to work in Aperture for its rich tool content. Is there any way I can use both iPhoto and Aperture on the same library? Or, import images from Aperture into iPhoto?
Thanks much!
John

I think you may have answered a question I have with the above, but to be sure here is what I would like to do. I currently have iPhoto09 with about 50,000 pictures in it, which seems too much for it to manage. I would like to use Aperture, which I understand is better for managing a large number of photos, but still have iPhoto available to make slide shows, etc. for our AppleTV. Would the process you described above work for that?
Thank you

What's the best way to merge, restore or reconstruct iPhoto and Aperture libraries to resolve images that are not found/offline?

Hey there, Apple Support Communities.
To start, I'm working on a MBP Retina 15" with a 2.3GHz i7 processor and 16 GB of RAM. 10GB free on a 256GB SS HD. Attached are two external HDs - one 1TB Western Digital portable drive from 2011, one 2TB Porsche LaCie non-portable drive from 2013; both connected via USB. All photo libraries in question are on the external drives.
I have Aperture 3.5.1 and iPhoto 9.5.1. I prefer to work in Aperture.
The Issue(s)
Over the years, I have accumulated a number of iPhoto libraries and Aperture libraries. At one point, I thought my WD drive was dying so I purchased the LaCie and copied all libraries over the the LaCie drive. (Turns out, there's probably an issue with my USB port reading drives, because I can once again see the WD drive and occasionally I can't see the LaCie drive.)
So now I have old version of some libraries on the WD drive, and new versions on the LaCie drive.
When I was moving things, I ran the software Gemini to de-dupe my iPhoto libraries. Not sure what effect that may have had on my issues.
In my main Aperture library and in some iPhoto libraries, I get the image-not-found badge or exclamation point. I've dug through the hidden Masters folders in various libraries to find the original image. In some cases, I have been able to find the original image, sometimes in a different version of the iPhoto library.
My Question(s)
1. For Aperture libraries that have missing originals, is there some magical way to find them, or have they just disappeared into the oblivion?
2. For iPhoto libraries that have missing originals and I have found the original in another iPhoto library, what is the best way to proceed?
3. Are there quirks to merging iPhoto and Aperture libraries (by using the Import->Library) feature that I should be aware of?
TL;DR: Too many iPhoto and Aperture libraries, and not all the original pictures can be found by the libraries anymore, though some originals still do exist in other libraries. Steps/process to fix?
Thank you! Let me know if you need add'l info to offer advice.
With appreciation,
Christie

That will not be an easy task, Christie.
I am afraid, your cleaning session with Gemini may have actually removed originals. I have never used this duplicate finder tool, but other posters here reported problems. Gemini seems to replace duplicate original files in photo libraries by links, and this way, deleting images can cause the references for other images to break. And Aperture does not follow symbolic links - at least, I could never get it to find original files this way, when I experimented with this.
1. For Aperture libraries that have missing originals, is there some magical way to find them, or have they just disappeared into the oblivion?
You have to find the originals yourself. If you can find them or restore them from a backup, Aperture can reconnect them. The reconnect panel can show you, where the originals are supposed to be, so youcan see the filename and make a Spotlight search.
For iPhoto libraries that have missing originals and I have found the original in another iPhoto library, what is the best way to proceed?
Make a copy of the missing original you found in a folder outside the iPhoto library. You can either open the iPhoto library in Aperture and use "File > Locate Referenced file" to reconnect the originals, or simply reimport them. Then Lift&Stamp all adjustments and metadata to the reimported version.
See this manual page on how to reconnect originals: Aperture 3 User Manual: Working with Referenced Images (the paragraph: Reconnecting Missing or Offline Referenced Images)
Are there quirks to merging iPhoto and Aperture libraries (by using the Import->Library) feature that I should be aware of?
References images will stay referenced, managed will remain managed. You need to unhide all hidden photos in iPhoto - this cannot be done in Aperture.
and not all the original pictures can be found by the libraries anymore, though some originals still do exist in other libraries. Steps/process to fix?
That is probably due to Gemini's replacing duplicate originals by links, and your best cause of action is to fix this before merging the libraries. Reconnecting can be done for your iPhoto libraries in Aperture.

Is it possible to keep both iPhoto and Aperture on the same Mac

I would like to use both IPhoto (for day by day pictures) and Aperture (for pictures made with my SLR in Raw format).
Is anybody able to advice me about this opportunity?

You can keep both Applications (iPhoto and Aperture) on the same computer and separate libraries for iPhoto and Aperture; images from both libraries will/should be available in other Applications from the Media Browser. In the long run, after you get accustomed to working Aperture, you will find it more convenient to migrate all your images to Aperture. Aperture has the more efficient storage strategy, you need less disk space to store multiple versions of the same image in Aperture than in iPhoto, and Aperture is the more versatile tool.
It is easy to migrate iPhoto libraries to Aperture, but that is a one way road, if you want to export back to iPhoto, you can export your images, but not all of your library structure.

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Zoom in-out and rotation in trackpad doesn't work in iPhoto and Aperture. Any solution?

Sound like a trackpad problem and not an iPhoto one. Have you asked in the forum dedicated to the Mac model you're using or is this an add on trackpad?
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Deleting images using iPhoto and a 128GB SD card and a Sony a6000

I am having a problem with deleting images after transfer to my mac using either iPhoto or Aperture (All newest version) under Yosemite 10.10.2. What happens is I can transfer images and video from the a6000 into my mac but when asked to delete and answering that it is okay to delete I run into an issue. When after deleting the images in iPhoto and looking at the a6000's stored images there are blanks that have the filenames but know images. I have to format the SD card to get them cleared off the SD card. I would say it is a bug. It happens in both iPhoto and Aperture. And this occurs regardless of if I use an SD USB reader or hook up the camera video USB. The bundled software called PlayMemories from Sony doesn't has a feature to delete the images off the camera. The a6000 is a newer model and I think the way Sony organizes things on the SD card is crazy but it would be nice to have the delete feature in iPhoto actually works like every other camera I've owned.

Yes but... you really don't want to use the iPhoto delete feature.
Never let your computer erase data without you first checking that the data is safe. Specifically never use iPhoto (or any other app) to delete the photos from your Camera Card. Disconnect the camera, check the transfer has gone correctly and then use your Camera to Reformat the Card. This has three advantages:
1. You know your data is safe - because you've taken the time to check it.
2. Reformatting the card is much, much faster - takes a couple of seconds
3. Reformatting also refreshes the Directory Structure on the Card, helping prevent issues with the card and prolonging its life.
But that's my 2 cents.

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