Ae 13.1 graph editor unusable!

My graph editor has become completely useless. Can't grab any of the points and when I some how manage to they just snap into place with absolutely no control. Plus when I try to do a mass selection it's not even corresponding to where my cursor is.
Anyone else getting this issue?
Here is a video of what's happening:

This Graph Editor bug is fixed in the After Effects 2014.1.1 (13.1.1) update:
http://bit.ly/AE_1311_details

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