AE CC and Cineform

Hi,
Not sure if this is just me but i put it out there for more info.
In AE CS6 i can create a new 32 bit float comp and then in the output module switch to QuickTime and Cineform then i can see options for Millions and Trillions output. Doing the exact same thing in AE CC only shows the millions option.
So for all those using Cineform and AE CC - can you select trillions when you render?
thanks!
Paul

The CS5.x version of the QuickTime MediaCore XML file is named
MediaCoreQTCodecRulesCS5.xml and on Windows 7 is found in the user's AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Common folder. The CS5 version lacks the CFHD entries found in the CS6 and CC versions of the QT MediaCore XML file.
To enable the Trillions option for the GoPro Cineform codec in After Effects CS5.5, I copied these four CFHD lines from the CS6 XML file at the end of the QTCodec list in the CS5 XML file:
<QTCodec codec='CFHD' vendor='****' platform='mactel' direction='encode' versionlow='0x00000' versionhigh='*' gammatag='false' cvbuffertag='0' deepdecodefourcc='b64a' decodefourcc='argb' />
<QTCodec codec='CFHD' vendor='****' platform='mactel' direction='decode' versionlow='0x00000' versionhigh='*' gammatag='false' cvbuffertag='0' deepdecodefourcc='b64a' decodefourcc='argb' />
<QTCodec codec='CFHD' vendor='****' platform='windows' direction='encode' versionlow='0x00000' versionhigh='*' gammatag='false' cvbuffertag='0' deepdecodefourcc='b64a' decodefourcc='argb' />
<QTCodec codec='CFHD' vendor='****' platform='windows' direction='decode' versionlow='0x00000' versionhigh='*' gammatag='false' cvbuffertag='0' deepdecodefourcc='b64a' decodefourcc='argb' />

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