AE Comps in Premiere

I've been cutting a project in Premiere with the intention of color-grading the final version in AE. While I go along I'll do the occasional effects shot using "Replace With After Effects Composition" then go back to Premiere and continue cutting.
The problem I'm getting is when I bring my Premiere timeline into AE to my grade, all my replaced AE comp clips are offline. The only solution I've been able to come up with is to replace each of the "missing" clips in AE manually. This negates the convenience of moving between Premiere and AE.
Anyone have any suggestions or am I just digging myself into a hole?
Samuel Hall
DP/Editor/VFX/Music
www.vimeo.com/samhall

Hi Sam
The task actually can be accomplished in a bit different way though...
1. Cut and arrange all footages within PrPro so as to just build the desired timeline
2. Replace PrPro sequence with AE composition so as to apply final colour grading on it
3. Pre-compose every layer you would initially want to replace with AE comp
I completely understand that this workflow is much less convenient you wanted to get.
However, I don't know how to automatically (or within a couple of clicks) update the final AE composition if you keep on cutting clips in PrPro sequence...
P.S. Enjoyed your movies on Vimeo

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