AE - What is faster? Ethernet or Old Airport Card ??

I'm going to be setting up my older G4 in my office to share multiple printers and be the iTunes jukebox. It has an original Airport card installed in it. In the past I have had problems with streaming music from my machines with older Airport cards. I have the option of installing an AE with the computer.
If I run an ethernet cable from the G4 to the AE, will the bandwidth be greater than using the older Airport card ??

Absolutely. All G4s shipped with at least 100base-T Ethernet, which is almost 10 times faster than the old Airport card.

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Hello there,
I've just been given an old G4 (digital audio) to use for university and after doing some research brought an old Airport card off of ebay.
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I also have a faster G4 iBook which uses the airport extreme card and it can find it no problem?
Is it a lost cause trying to get such an old card trying to find the router? I'd rather avoid having to 'borrow' my neighbor's connection if I can help it.

Hi duane,
Thanks for the prompt reply.
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Go to www.apple.com/support/diy/ and select your PowerBook. You will find the directions for installing the card.
You can use KB 88248, PowerBook G4 Computers: How to Identify Different Models to determine exactly which PowerBook you have.

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Old Airport card (b protocol) will not connect to Airport Express

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I have an one year old Intel IMac running OS/X 10.5.7 and recently bought the Airport express. Setup went smooth and fast and within 10 minutes it was working. I did all the software and firmware updates.
Then I connected my wife's Windows laptop, network was detected and the password was accepted immediately so I got that connected as well.
Last, but apparently not least, I tried to connect my G3 iBook running OSX 10.2.8 with an Airport card (not the extreme but the predecessor) so I could use that one in the garden but it will not connect.
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When I use the Airport Setup assistant to establish the connection if tells me that "the password you entered was incorrect".
I was told that the Airport Express station is able to use a 801.11b protocol since that is what the old card uses.
I checked the password, I used textedit to type it first and the 'cut and paste' but nothing seems to work.
Long story but I hope I gave enough information for someone to resolve this problem for me. I cannot reply immediately to all replies but I will read them all.
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Hello CarreraHenk. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
When I open the airport icon on the top of the screen then I see the network. If I select it and try to connect I have to enter a password. After a few seconds I get a message that "There was an error joining the selected Airport network".
Which wireless encryption standard are you using on your new 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station's (AXn) wireless network ... WEP, WPA or WPA2?
For WPA, the minimum requirements are the AirPort Card & OS X 10.3.n. The AirPort Card will not support WPA2.

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I have free internet service in my building. Usually you connect to the signal, and then it brings up a web page where you enter login info to gain access to outside websites. I was using a G4 tower with the original airport card, and didnt have any issues with this.
Now with my new iMac, I can connect to the service but the speed lags so much that it's literally slower than 56k dialup. I know nothing is wrong with the building's equipment, as I signed onto it with my laptop and it's just as fast as usual.
I know the airport card in the iMac is a newer version than the original one I had in the G4....but shouldnt that make it better?
Is there a simple fix to this? I just cant figure this one out.
thanks in advance.
iMac 24" Mac OS X (10.4.8)
iMac 24" Mac OS X (10.4.8)

ALL the computers will run on the network at the
speed of the router. The new intel Mac should not be
SLOWER than any other Mac on the same network when
surfing the net - it should have the same speed -
currently the G4 has a good speed but the intel Mac
has the speed of a dial up - the question was 'why is
the intel mac slower than the G4 on the SAME network
- you missed the point
I'm not looking to take sides, as I appreciate any input on this....however, this is more about what my question is in regards to.
If my new iMac ran at the slower of a high speed internet connection, I would be fine with that...however, it's running at an unreasonable speed which at times even seems slower than 56k..way slower. I feel that it's just strange that my G4 tower with the original airport card (not even an extreme) runs 50 times faster on the net than my new one...

PLEASE HELP! How to get (old) Airport Card working on (old) emac???

Hi, I have an older 700MHz emac and I got an Airport Card (the original, I think).
I opened the CD tray, connected the antennae and seated the card, but it still says "No information found" when I look in the system profile, under Airport Card.
What could I be doing wrong? I've re-tried this a couple of times already.

Push the card in really hard, until your hear it click - Mine was like yours, then I tried one last time to press it in real hard, and it worked... If that doesnt work, then you have a dud card, or your Airport slot is broken.

Override Ethernet to Use Airport Card for Internet

I just installed an Airport card in G4 Quicksilver 2002.
I want to use a separate (not on my network) Linksys wireless airport to go on the internet,
But as long as my ethernet is connected to the G4, my internet goes out my ethernet.
Is there a way to force my internet connection to use the Linksys wireless (without unhooking my ethernet cable)?
Also, is there a way to be using the Linksys wireless on the internet, and make my HP 4001n print through my ethernet?

You can try changed the order of the network ports in the Network preferences Network Port Configurations screen. If you drag the Airport configuration to the top of the list it is supposed to become the first priority port.
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He can't NOT use this becuase it does not have a
wireless n adapter, he can't use this because the
chipset was changed. That is why he should feel
ripped off, no pc would suffer this problem, he is
stuck. Apple should, based on their reputation, not
freeze out people who spend thousands of dollars on
their product.
Yes he can use this product (it is backwards compatible to 802.11 a/b/g). Excuse me, a PC is in the same condition, if Dell comes out with a newer version of their laptop with and n card in it, why would any previous version owner feel ripped off? You knew what you were buying when you bought it. I just bought a new truck last year, this year they came out with some improvements to that truck, am I supposed to feel ripped off because the added some new features? No I bought it knowing what it came with and the next years model will most likely have new features that I don't have. Come on. I guess companies should never improve their product and we should be stuck with same technology so we don't "feel ripped off" when they get improved. What kind of logic is that? I guess it must be PC logic. . .

Ibook G-3 with old airport card can't see New Airport Extreme Base Station

I have been trying for a week now to get my G-3 ibook set up on my Airport Extreme Network. No matter what I do, I can't sign on to the network. When I put in the password I get an error message 3151. I have no idea what this means. I have read everything, restarted base, changed network password, trashed all airport and prefs on G-3 and reinstalled. Although my network shows up in the control strip, it doesn't show in the setup assistant. Please help if you can, I'm about to go crazy! Thanks.
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Dear Duane, I did have 802.11b configured, but I had the WPA instead of WEP enabled. When I reconfigured my network, the clamshell was instantly able to join and use the network. I have many many questions about how to use the network to allow both computers to communicate, but I'll read up on it and I'm sure the answers will be there. You saved me $240.00 for the 1st hour and $160.00 for anything over that Techserve was going to charge me to come and set it up. I can't thank you enough. Everyone tells me not to waste money, but to save for a new ibook with System X, but I love my old clamshell and I'm going to get it a bigger hard drive so it can be upgraded to run OS X. It's the old 4 Gb one. I can't thank you enough for your solution! Now I can work on the laptop in my bedroom! I love Mac stuff and I knew the Extreme base station would work, regardless of what all the posters have been saying.
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Sharing ethernet connection with airport card from ( iMac 17" intel)

I have recently upgraded from a 800 15" iMac to a new 17" intel iMac - before the upgrade it would share the ethernet connection to the internet with sharing and broadcast the signal to my FW800 powerbook ( or any other mac in the house ( no problems)
Now with the new Imac set up I enable sharing ethernet connection to computers using airport ( same as before) I can see the computer ( sharing the connection) in the airport menu of my FW 800 PB - when I try and connect I get an error message ?
Looking for any tips or direction? I searched this forum ans apple support pages and did not find an answer... PB = OS 10.3.9 - Imac = OS 10.4.5

Hey thanks for the welcome!
The error message said " there is an error in connecting to ..."
OK ( after just checking it again) go figure - I turned off sharing ethernet connection to computers using airport on the iMac - and turned it back on and voila! I am now connected using the PB - ??? Must have been a reset issue?
lets see if this is a solid connection...
Thanks for the fast reply!
Pasquale

What airport card for MDD

I haven't looked inside, but do I need the old airport card for my MDD SP 1.25? I think it does not accept an extreme card....thought I read that only the models with 800 fw will work with the extreme card.
If anyone can confirm this, I'd appreciate it.....thanks

The Motorola WPCI810G 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter is what I use and it works great in 10.3.9 with Airport Software 4.1, updating to the latest 4.2 Airport Software will "break" it. Then I believe there was a 4.3 update that claimed to fix the cards that were broken by the 4.2 update but it didn't take.
This happened to me but luckily I just reverted to a cloned copy of my system that had 4.1 on it.
I do vaguely recall it working in 10.3.7 but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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Is Wi Fi speed limited by old iMac and old Airport Express?

I got my sister an Apple TV for Christmas. Download times for movies or TV rentals is really slow.
She has Time Warner Road Runner Cable modem at their standard speed (not upgraded to "Turbo". My question is whether a new Airport Express or Extreme running at 802.11n would either speed up downloads or transfers from her newer MacBook to the Apple TV.
I guess my question is whether the desktop - an old Power PC and it's old Airport Card hinder the performance of either the rental or purchase downloads or connectivity between her MacBook, Apple TV & iPad. When I visit, I also get a pretty weak signal from the den in the back of the house to the family room up front. Could the "n" upgrade improve on any of these limitations? Not sure if the slow main computer is part of the problem.
Sorry I don't have more details on the internet speed or specifics on the system.

I guess my question is whether the desktop - an old Power PC and it's old Airport Card hinder the performance of either the rental or purchase downloads or connectivity between her MacBook, Apple TV & iPad.
Yes, the do. When you have non-"n" wireless clients on an "n" network, there will be bandwidth performance degradation anytime those non-"n" clients are active on the network. Typically, "n" clients only get around 70% of maximum bandwidth when non-"n" clients (computers, printers, Internet-ready TVs, or routers) are connected.
When I visit, I also get a pretty weak signal from the den in the back of the house to the family room up front. Could the "n" upgrade improve on any of these limitations?
Possibly. The newer "n" AirPorts do provide better range than the older models. Regardless, this will would only have minimum improvement over download speed. It should; however, improve streaming speed between the MacBook/iPad and the Apple TV.

I have an eMac which I want to connect to my home wireless network. My router is D-Link-601 tech 802.11n. My emac is wireless ready but does not contain an airport card. Do I need a card and an airport station? What else?

I have an eMac which I want to connect to my home wireless network. My router is D-Link - 601 tech. 802.11n. My eMac is wireless ready but does not contain an airport card. Do I need a card and an airport station? What else?

You need the Airport card OR Airport Express but not both. Considering the age of your machine, I recommend Airport Express as you will find other uses for it whenever you replace the eMac.
To set up the AE, you do need OSX 10.4 or higher.

Airport card not picking up any signals after IP configuration changed

Just had cable internet installed in my apartment, and in the course of setting up the IP configuration for the built-in ethernet connection, my airport card has stopped recognizing wireless networks in my building. Before I changed these settings, the card was working, and there are several networks in the building that it recognized. Now, it recognizes none. The menu appears in the top bar, and I can turn the airport on and off, but it simply is not picking up any signals whatsoever.
I have tried a handful of tactics, including changing the Airport TCP/IP configuration in several different ways, rebooting several times, and even removing and reinserting the Airport card.
For info: I'm using an iBook G3 with OS 10.2.8. (I know, pretty old, but it's still chugging along...)
Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

Not sure. What's strange is that the very same computer was picking up signals (not accessing them b/c they were all password protected), recognizing networks in the area at least, before I played with the other IP configuration settings. Now it picks up none. It shows that there are none in the area, even though I know that there are.
Also, often, when I click on the Airport icon in the menu bar, the computer hangs for up to a minute before the menu actually pops up.
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