AEBS + WD 2 TB + Powered Belkin hub

Hi All,
I have the new AEBS + a powered WD 2TB desktop HD and a HP printer connected via a Belkin powered hub.
The WD works as a Time Machine backup disk great, connected directly to my MBP, but when I try to use it via the hub wirelessly..no joy!
I have tried everything but it just won't show up..it does come up in the Airport Utility, but that's about it

The WD works as a Time Machine backup disk great, connected directly to my MBP, but when I try to use it via the hub wirelessly..no joy!
Apple does not support Time Machine backups to a drive attached to the AirPort Extreme. That might explain a few things.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/15139.html

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Thanks, Kappy.
So you're saying it's definitely abnormal behaviour? And no USB hub should do this with a macbook? Yes?
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Just bought an Airport Extreme Wireless dual-band N router (January 2012). It works very well and having the separate 2.5 and 5 GHz bands is a fantastic feature. Setup was really easy and it essentially worked 'out of the box'. The one issue I had is attaching a USB Western Digital 1 TB HDD to share on the network and use for Time Machine backups from multiple MacBook Pro laptops.
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For anyone else who reads this post, the respondents are correct. I cannot find anything directly from Apple that states explicity the support for Time Machine backups to a USB drive on a second generation Apple Airport Extreme. I would love to see their detailed case studies and latest tests that demonstrate the backup corruption isues, and more recent tests conducted with the latest Airport Extreme, running the latest firmware with Lion 10.7.2.
Having said that, each person who is interested in this as a backup solution should consider more than one source before making a final decision:
http://gizmodo.com/369973/apple-time-machine-now-works-with-airport-disk
http://stephanfassmann.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-to-setup-time-machine-on-airport .html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=881757
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9070282/Time_Machine_now_works_with_AirPo rt_Extreme_drives_say_users
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/03/finally-airport-extreme-usb-disk-time- machine-backup.ars
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Time-Machine-Update-Back-Up-on-AirPort-Extreme-Ad ded-81256.shtml
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Older Mac OS X 10.5 and 10.6:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2038
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/15139.html
http://Pondini.org/TM/Airport.html
The other thing you can do is on the Time Machine menu, hold down the "Option" key and use the 'verify backups' option to help ensure that your TS backups are valid.
Hopefully Apple will come out with an official statement soon that speaks directly to the 2nd generation Airport Extreme on the latest firmware running TS backups from OS X Lion 10.7.
My statement about the need for a powered USB hub to have much better success with USB attached hard drives still stands.

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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7948387#7948387
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http://www.wiebetech.com/whitepapers/FireWirePortFailures.php
http://lowendmac.com/misc/03/0421.html
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Hey guys I upgraded to 10.5.2 and after I did, I found my powered USB hub was causing a hanging grey screen when I turn the power on. Anyway does anyone know how to make it not lock up on a grey screen? If I unplug the hub it boots, but until I do it is an endless hanging grey screen. If it is a bug can you guys please fix because I find it really annoying to have to unplug and replug my hub every time I boot.
System.
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Update: IT only happens when I plug my iPod into the hub that is plugged into my iMac. If I plug my iPod into the Macs USB directly it boots fine. Kinda a crappy bug or maybe a setting I need to change to be able to keep my iPod plugged into my powered usb hub when I boot so it doesn't hang.
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Hi guys
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