AFP Shares randomly disappear?

We have just setup a brand new Intel Xserve with Leopard 10.5.2 Server.
The server connects to a 10.3.9 OD Directory server for user authentication, since we have not yet migrated to an 10.5 Open Directory domain yet.
The server is only running AFP Services, and NOT acting as an OD Master server.
We have shared out about 13 share point, but using POSIX permissions for now as we are not sure if we can safely use ACL's for users on a 10.3.9 OD Domain.
All seems to work apart from some normal POSIX permission issues with folder ownerships ect..nothing too unusual for POSIX.
However after about a week or so we are seeing a very odd issue:
At random times, users when trying to access the server via AFP, only see a list of about 5 of the 13 shares. They cannot access the others even if you use the full AFP location to the shares.
I can try that same user login again minutes later, and all shares show up again.
Yet I can try again minutes later and only 5 shares show up again and so on....
I have seen a similar issue on early 10.4.x server and what I did then was delete the user account and recreate it...which seemed to work for a while, until it happened again.
Knowing that 10.5.2 has many issues with AFP, am I safe to blame this problem on that?
Short of calling support under our Apple Care agreement, does anyone have some hands on experience with this?
Thanks

Had a similar issue this morning. Server 10.5.2.
For us it turned out to be a change in the Finder preferences on the 10.4.11 G5 client machine. Took me a stupid two hours to figure this out.
Fixed it by going to the Sidebar tab and unchecking and then checking the Show Connected Servers box. For some reason two shares had been deselected and weren't appearing anywhere on the client machine.

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I have taken some users and given them local accounts and not seen the issue.
I assume this means that it is something to do with the passing of the authentication to and from the AD server.
If anyone else has seen this and knows how to correct it please let me know.
Thanks

I am having a similar issue with brand new Mac Mini server. I have established sharepoints on a number of folders. When I connect to them from a client, the drives mounts as remains present for up to 2 minutes and then disappears with an error message about it being no longer available.
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I am having a strange problem with folders randomly disappearing off my server share. Here is my current setup:
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I have the following problem: I have an XServer with Mac OS X 10.6.4 and a Mac Book Pro as client. Sometimes the AFP shares not working. The Calendar server also not working. All other services (mail, internet, vpn etc.) is working fine. After a time the AFP shares and the calendar is working again without doing something.
Sometimes a reboot of the client also helps but not always. The CIFS shares on parallels works fine.
I have found some topics with a similar problem on Airport Extreme but this seems to be a spinning down problem with the harddisk. On the server I can access local everything without a problem.
Does anybody knows a solution?
Best greetings
David

We've also been suffering with disappearing AFP and SMB shares. Some shares will remain up -- possibly the less used ones? Still struggling to figure out the pattern.
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Hi everyone,
I am using an OS X 10.8.5 Server with mostly 10.6.8 Clients. The clients usually open, save, copy to and from AFP shares provided by the server. Sometimes it happens that a client gets thrown out of a folder it is currently viewing on the AFP share. Once this behaviour starts it is near impossible to navigate down on the folder hierarchy since you get teleported back 1 to 3 levels. The number of levels depends on how fast you managed to drill down before you get thrown back. So an example would be:
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From this point it won’t ever work again until you unmount and remount the share. Sometimes even a reboot of the client is neccessary. It happens with ~10 clients so it is not just one isolated client acting weird. On the Server side I did not notice anything wrong or weird happening. There are no backups, syncs or other tasks running on the server while this occurs. It seems to happen more often when you are using list view (cmd+2), but I have already seen it with column view, too.
I’ve read about similar problems with SMB, but I am really stumped at where to look next. I already ruled out that it’s just with 1 client Mac. Deleting .DS_Store files did not help (not that I counted on that one).
Another weird thing in addition to that is that sometimes the Finder shows folders twice or even more often. These are exactly named the same. Sometimes they disappear when you want to click on one of them.
Any ideas anyone?
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Oh great! I had hoped it would go away. I suspect AFP to be the culprit. Since 10.9 defaults to the new SMB2 it might help to explicitly connect via SMB instead.
I am not sure since it’s been a while, but I believe the problem was happening less often if you disable both preview options using cmd+j in the Finder. Might be worth a try…

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Hi everyone,
I am using an OS X 10.8.5 Server with mostly 10.6.8 Clients. The clients usually open, save, copy to and from AFP shares provided by the server. Sometimes it happens that a client gets thrown out of a folder it is currently viewing on the AFP share. Once this behaviour starts it is near impossible to navigate down on the folder hierarchy since you get teleported back 1 to 3 levels. The number of levels depends on how fast you managed to drill down before you get thrown back. So an example would be:
The client views folder A on /Volumes/AFPShare/Stuff/Folder1
You start to navigate to a folder residing inside Folder1. If you now wait for a few seconds Finder will throw you out and back to Folder1. If you mangage to drill a few levels down really fast you might make it to /Volumes/AFPShare/Stuff/Folder1/data/more/here. But then you immediately are teleported back to /Volumes/AFPShare/Stuff/Folder1.
From this point it won’t ever work again until you unmount and remount the share. Sometimes even a reboot of the client is neccessary. It happens with ~10 clients so it is not just one isolated client acting weird. On the Server side I did not notice anything wrong or weird happening. There are no backups, syncs or other tasks running on the server while this occurs. It seems to happen more often when you are using list view (cmd+2), but I have already seen it with column view, too.
I’ve read about similar problems with SMB, but I am really stumped at where to look next. I already ruled out that it’s just with 1 client Mac. Deleting .DS_Store files did not help (not that I counted on that one).
Another weird thing in addition to that is that sometimes the Finder shows folders twice or even more often. These are exactly named the same. Sometimes they disappear when you want to click on one of them.
Any ideas anyone?
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Björn

I believe I've seen a similar problem in my development.
This was occurring in Beta 2 and I believe I had it happen in Beta 3 as well.
This might be a way to repro the issue?
1. Have several collections.
2. Follow Robin's post to combine the collections into one:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/3c55b873-a0c7-4cc8-9bab-eaf809f62ab0/exporting-data?forum=projectsiena
3. Change one of the underlying collections - add another column to the collection without using the function 'addcolumn' for example)
What I saw happening is that the 'master collection' would say there was a problem. To fix it, I simply had to drop off the last part of the function and then add it back (similar to what Ptr is saying in his posting).
The function in this example looked like this: Collect(MasterBackup, Import1!Data)
By removing Import1!Data and then typing it back in the problem would be resolved.
I hope this helps to add some insight -
Thor

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This is the same issue as: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8044984
Has anyone found a fix yet? Basically, when copying files from an AFP server, Leopard is not having the file inherit the permissions of the parent folder. It is inheriting the permissions of the file within /Volumes.
I am accessing an AFP share point on a server that has files that are 644 (readable by everyone, but only writable by the owner). I am not the owner. When viewing the AFP volume on my client within /Volumes/whatever the permissions appear to be 400 (unwriteable by the owner, no access to anyone else). When I copy the file over to desktop, the permissions remain as 400 when they should obviously be 600.
What does this mean? Even though I am NOW the owner, and it is on MY desktop, I am unable to write to the file unless I chmod it. Very, very annoying and this behavior is unique to Leopard. Tiger does not mangle the permissions.
The server is ubuntu-8.10-server running Netatalk.
The test clients are Leopard 10.5.5 and Tiger 10.4.11
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-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 1024 2008-11-23 23:29 test.doc
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Message was edited by: iSauce

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We set up an OS X server in a remote facility and are connecting to it over a VPN connection (Netgear Firewall).
Everything works fine, there's only one annoying issue: if I want to copy a file from a mounted AFP share (share1) to another mounted AFP share (share2) - both of them residing on the same server - it seems to me that the files are being copied first to my local client and then back to the server again - instead of being copied directly from and to the server...
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Thanks for your thoughts about higher vs. lower latency networking - I totally agree. It might be a quite uncommon setup; as the server is being "housed" in a datacenter with quite tough restrictions: not only do they charge us for the power consumption, but also for the traffic being generated - which is 250 GB a month. They're providing an uplink with 10mbps (guaranteed), burstable to 100mbits.
Anyway, we're interested in keeping traffic low - hard to do if we cannot let end users do "common" tasks like moving files from one folder to another (of course, its a sharepoint - but they don't care).
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User Passwords Rejected on AFP share mounts?
(OK, my last post got buried, and perhaps too long), try again. Very brief
Issue:
After so many days, a User's AFP share password is rejected? What gives.
If you reset it, several days later, same thing, rejected.
Is Netinfo Database corrupted, what can / should be done?
- Stand Alone server (with AFP and FTP services running, all other services off, not running.
Summary Info for user having issue:
Location: 192.168.0.50/NetInfo/DefualtLocalNode
Home: No Home Directory
Primary Group: Users (20)
Password: Shadow Password
I have deleted that troublesome user name and created a new name (for that user), just in case, in the re-creation of the same user name (after deletion) some corruption gets inherited.
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macguitarman
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We're having some really strange issues at work with an AFP share.
Setup:
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Other than the start-up drive user's account "Movies" folder, iMovie '08 only allows access to the "root" level of non-start-up drives which are the only areas it scans for "iMovie Events" folders during initialization. In addition, in order to access non-start-up drives, they must be formatted as "Mac Extended OS" drives.
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