After 3 years, tried live updating of smart playlist again. Still broken.

I mean that lists like "Music I haven't listend to recently" do not remove songs on the fly when I listen songs. Last time some special rules were a problem, like "album rating", or "skipped" or "is/not podcast". It worked if I avoided those rules. I did not research the details this time. Although all my rules are really old, so they should have been fixed by now. (Old, but a complex set of ten smart playlists, all live updating and the "main" list built from the others.)
Here is my speculation from 2009:
Generally any RECENT iTunes smart playlist RULE TYPES that Apple has introduced in iTunes, but failed to update to iOS Music Player seem to be the problem. The iOS device can not understand a new iTunes rule unless somebody hard codes it to a new iOS version which is then updated to your iPod. And the live update is disabled, if iOS does not recognize a rule that iTunes has.
Why, oh, why don't they just define a scripting language to implement the smart lists, with primitives that can read any meta-data fields on a media file, and compare strings, numbers and dates? Then a new rule type would just mean a different script synced to iPhone, not re-programming the Music Player?
Or what gives, tell me?

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

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FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

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I updated to the brand new iOS 4.1 today, and I am still having an issue that has made me upset for the past few months. For years and years I have been able to use smart playlists that have live updated on my iPods and iPhones without problems. Recently, within the past few months of software updates, my smart playlists have stopped live updating.
Here are two examples I'm talking about:
1. I have a smart playlist of music that I call Unrated for iPhone. The smart playlists requirements are that it has no star rating and that it is limited to 500 MB. I used to be able to rate songs on my iPhone, and they would get removed from the playlist automatically within my iPhone without having to sync it with my desktop. Now, as I rate those songs on my iPhone, they stay on the unrated list.
2. I have another playlist called 5*'s least recent. The requirements for this smart playlist are that the songs have 5 stars, and they are limited to the 75 least recently played songs. Songs used to be removed from that list once they were played. Now, they stay on that list until I sync my iPhone to my desktop.
What happened to live updating? Is anybody else experiencing this problem? I have loved this feature for years and now there is a bug! Has anybody brought up this topic before? Because I couldn't find any solutions.

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

Iphone not live updating my smart playlists

I had the old original iphone then upgraded to the 3G S. When i had my original, it came with pre-set smart lists that updated automatically (like literally the second u changed the rating to 5 stars, that song appeared in ur top rated list). Well as u know the 3G S doesn't come with said lists. Further more when i tried to create those smart lists on my own, they do not update at ALL!! I've tried to make one that was a top 25, recently added, and top rated, and none of these have worked at all....
Is there a way to NOT have to connect ur iphone to ur computer for these lists to update?? also if i rate them 5 stars on my computer it works but not when i do it only on my phone.. i dont want to have to plug it all the **** time when i change my mind about wanting a song on my playlist.
somebody please help!!

The only way to change the iPhone music content is by syncing to the computer. The sole exception to that is the On The Go playlist. Smart playlists only update when you sync.
If they are not updating correctly, see this: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3044

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For the last several itunes updates, setting a smart playlist to Live Update causes the order of playlist items to become mangled on synced deviceL
Unchecking the Live Updating restores the proper order to the items on the synced device.
Its a huge pain if you desire to set up podcast play order on your iphone so you don't have to play DJ in your car.
It was a problem a long time ago, and there was a kludgy workaround. Then they fixed it. And 2 versions of iTunes later it came back, and the workaround didn't work that time. It now appears to be a permanent bug, and apparently nobody cares at Apple.
Here's a wonderful example of how longstanding this bug is:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/11396625#11396625
This one is even more pathetic, going back to 2009:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/10168181#10168181
There are many, many, other threads complaining about this issue so I've lost faith that Apple will care or try to fix it.
There has always been the occasional bug or error with Apple hardware/software; nobody's perfect - but they used to make an effort to fix things in a timely manner. At least they used to think the perception of attention to detail was important for marketing purposes.
Now, they are apparently content to Pareto Principle their products becuase they have the mass sales and a giant customer base that will accept 'just good enough' products.
So sad to see the decline of such a once great company.

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

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Why won't it work anymore? Please!

You never know. Maybe I get lucky and this gets read by someone from Apple that is actually an iPhone user.

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DO NOT RELEASE BUTTON until you see picture of iTunes and plug
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ON COMPUTER
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7. Select "Restore iPad"...
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1. Data will be lost if you do not have backup
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After I tried to update my ipod to iOS 5, my ipod screen turned to the screen of the cherger cord pointing to the iTunes symbol. when I try to restore it, it says that the 3014 error has occured. I went to check for support on iTunes and i did download t

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Just what do you not understand?
Did you try:
Try to restore from another known-good computer and network.
Error 3014
This error occurs when iTunes can't reach gs.apple.com in a timely fashion. Follow the steps below to contact the iOS software update server gs.apple.com.
Unable to contact the iOS software update server gs.apple.com
Error 1004, 1013, 1638, 3014, 3194: These errors may be the result of the connection to gs.apple.com being redirected or blocked. Follow these steps to resolve these errors:
Install the latest version of iTunes.
Check security software and ensure that communication to gs.apple.com is allowed. Follow these stepsfor assistance with security software.
Check the hosts file. The restore will fail if there is an active entry to redirect gs.apple.com. Follow theadvanced iTunes Store troubleshooting steps to edit the hosts file or revert to a default hosts file. See "Blocked by configuration: (Mac OS X/Windows) > Rebuild network information."
Try to restore from another known-good computer and network.
If the errors persist on another computer, the device may need service.
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HT1801 Just wondering, does iTunes update my Smart playlist with new songs?

Does iTunes update my Smart playlist with new songs each time I download it or do I have to manually update it myself? If I do, can someone walk me through it. Thanks a bunch

Yes that should work.
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Artist is Godspeed You Black Emperor!
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To get all the songs showing in a smart playlist, I'd need to adjust the Artist name on one or the other sets of songs so it matches a rule. (Haven't done that myself yet for GYBE, because I haven't worked out where the exclamation mark is actually supposed to go.)

Smart Playlist: Limitation or broken iPod?

I have been struggling mightily trying to get my Smart Playlists to sync properly between iTunes and my iPod. One particular playlist that has been a major problem is one with two filters, the first filter is for purchases, and the second filter is for songs played less than 10 times. In iTunes, this Smart Playlist works just as I would expect, with all of the songs filtered out that have 10 or more plays. However, on my iPod, the second filter is completely ignored, and only purchased songs will show up.
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I DO use a complicated playlists on my 2nd gen nano and it syncs the playcounts OK.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the iPod model?
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Thanks

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After 3 years, tried live updating of smart playlist again. Still broken.

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