After effects CS6 random white frames

I am a hobbyist working on some AE projects using an HP Z820 workstation. Have opened these projects many times to add to them over the last few months with no issues. Two days ago opened them to find a few single random white frames. Isolated the problem frames to Keylight 1.2 and Fast Blur. In Keylight, when I changed Screen Shrink/Grow to 0, the three white frames went back to normal. Some other white frames were traced to the Fast Blur effect. Blurriness was set at 20. I changed it to any other number and white frames went away. I left it at 19. Now here is the kicker! Today I open up the projects to apply these annoying fixes to some other affected areas and everything is BACK TO NORMAL! I can use all the original settings! I suppose I could just be happy it mysteriously resolved itself after a good nights sleep but I don't like unsolved mysteries. It could happen again!
Any explanations other than sun spots?

Thanks for your reply, Szalam.
Yes, I am very familiar with the bug report process. I wanted to see if anyone else had the same issue hoping that I could find an immediate solution. As it stands, the temporary workaround is to render to something other than Cineform AVI.
Sorry, I am quite busy right now (large project with a short deadline) and don't have the time to do much test rendering. When I get a minute I will definitely do more tests with different codecs etc.
I would be happy to upload some P2 footage when time allows. Is there a way to upload directly to this site, or is there another preferred method? I haven't attempted uploading files to this forum before.
Thanks again for your help!

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Thanks for your reply, Szalam.
Yes, I am very familiar with the bug report process. I wanted to see if anyone else had the same issue hoping that I could find an immediate solution. As it stands, the temporary workaround is to render to something other than Cineform AVI.
Sorry, I am quite busy right now (large project with a short deadline) and don't have the time to do much test rendering. When I get a minute I will definitely do more tests with different codecs etc.
I would be happy to upload some P2 footage when time allows. Is there a way to upload directly to this site, or is there another preferred method? I haven't attempted uploading files to this forum before.
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Hi everyone,
I'm running After Effects CS6 (11.0.4.2) on a MacBook Pro 2.8Ghz with 16GB RAM (Mac OS 10.9.4)
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My only 'complaint' is how long the RAM Preview takes to load up the whole thing.
I've been reading up on Multiprocessing and decided to try this to see if I can speed up the time it takes my RAM Preview to load up.
So I looked at some recommendations from Adobe and read information on various forums including this one.
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• Reduce cache size when system is low on memory - unticked
• After Effects Multiprocessing - ticked
• Installed CPUs (processor cores) - 8
• CPUs reserved for other applications - 6
• RAM allocation per background CPU - 3GB
• Actual CPUs that will be used - 2
This combination takes about 25 seconds to load up my 3 and a half minute sequence which I thought was pretty amazing.
I then pressed the stop button and then the play button - so now just playing the sequence briefly.
And also added a new layer - into the timeline - just a simple shape.
Then I tried a RAM Preview again.
I found I could load up part of the sequence but not load the whole thing into RAM.
I kept trying to get a RAM Preview and got this message
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Eventually I quit and restarted After Effects and the problem went away temporarily and then came back when I tried again.
I tried various changes to the Memory Preferences - trying 3GB available for other applications. This gave 13GB of my 16GB RAM to After Effects.
This made it take slightly longer for the After Effects error to appear but it still appeared.
I tried ticking Reduce Cache size in the Memory Prefs - the After Effects error still appeared, so having read this is supposed to make the issue better I now leave it untucked, but as far as I can see ticked or untucked, it makes no difference, the problem remains.
I've since tried -
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Changing the Background RAM allocation per background CPU to 0.75GB, 1GB, 1.5GB, 2GB and 3GB
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But in the end, I always get the "After Effects error: RAM Preview needs 2 or more frames to playback" error.
It might take less or more time for the message to show up, depending on the combination of settings, but in the end I always got the same message appearing.
And I notice that I can RAM Preview less and less of the timeline. i.e. it becomes more blue than it does green and will load in only a small section of the timeline as opposed to the whole thing.
Reading further, I tried Edit > Purge > Image Cache and Edit > Purge > All Memory but still get the error message.
I also tried ensuring there were no other applications running e.g. Safari or Chrome or Firefox. And certainly not Photoshop or Premiere etc.
Reading even further, I tried two Memory management applications - 'Memory Clean' and 'Purge.'
Neither has had any effect - the After Effects error still appears.
Then I went back into the Memory and Multiprocessing Preferences.
I unticked Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously. And now the RAM Preview loads the whole 3 and half minute sequence in entirety, taking about 1 and half minutes to do so. It's working as perfectly as if I'd just quit and re-opened the application.
Then I went back into the Memory and Multiprocessing Preferences.
I reticked Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously.
The chose Edit > Purge > All
And tried a RAM Preview again. It loaded up in 25 seconds, but then, as previously, the error message came.
I tried Edit > Purge All - no effect.
And I tried going into the Media and Disk Cache Preferences and clicked Empty Disk Cache - still the problem remains.
I understand from my reading that After Effects CS6 11.0.2 was intended to fix this issue but I'm on 11.0.4 and as far as I can tell, I still have it - assuming it's the same thing.
As far as I can see, not using Multiprocessing allows me to work without these errors but take a bit longer to load the RAM Preview.
However I'd like to be able to use Multiprocessing as it seems it can potentially speeds things up quite a lot. I realise I could just not use it and AE would work, but I'd rather be able to make use of a feature of the software if possible, especially if it will speed things up and make optimum use of the my computer's hardware.
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Kind regards,
John

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Read these:
https://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2009/12/performance-tip-dont-starve-yo.html
http://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2010/03/performance-tip-dont-oversched.html
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The render goes perfectly normal - it is not the rendering that is the problem - it is the "Locking Existing Frames" process BEFORE rendering that freezes up my computer for 3 minutes, and ruining my life.
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Thanks for the quick responses. Below are all the details to all your questions. Also - just to emphasize again - my rendering goes super awesomely fast. It is not the rendering. It is the "Locking Existing Frames" process before the rendering that is ruining my life.
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I do not have a seperate "fast hard drive" or "SSD" seperate from my main hard drive, where I store my footage.
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