After my '2 years' if I don't upgrade I deserve a discount

After my '2 years' if I don't upgrade I deserve a discount - the reason for the service contract was to pay off the cost of the "free" phone. Especially since there was a hefty penalty for cancelling before the contract completes. So now I'm effectively overpaying, right? And I'm not looking for some snarky comment to go elsewhere, this is an INDUSTRY WIDE issue. EVERYONE who pays off their phone deserves the discount.

Well, all been discussed before but I don't think there is an "official" position on this, and there are various competing interpretations.  I think the one you discuss is simply:
1) Pay for a two year contract, for which you get two years of service at a fixed price, like many other types of contract.  (And in fact you will probably continue to get the same pricing afterwards, unlike many other types!).   In this model, the ETF is a penalty for breaking the contract and not giving Verizon the promised two years of revenue.  In theory, you could keep your existing phone, and sign a new two year contract (to keep the pricing) and still be hit with an ETF if you left
The other common view:
2) As above, but with a subsidized phone, some portion of the monthly fee is used to pay back the subsidy.  Now the ETF is charged because you haven't paid the subsidy off fully.
In some support of 2 is the different ETF for smartphones vs basic phones.   This is a little murky because smartphone plans are probably generally higher than basic phone plans, but there is no ETF difference for a smartphone with 400 minutes (on old style plans) and a smartphone with unlimited, despite the big difference in monthly cost.
Some t-mobile plans are more like 2), if you bring your own phone, there is a reduction in monthly charge, so what the OP suggests does exist, just not on VZ.

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