Again mixed signal graph and Labview 2012

I have just experienced a weird change in labview 2012 on the mixed signal graphs. In a preliminary analysis, it seems that the most critical behavior is related to the silver mixed signal graph, although i didn't have the time to test the standard one.
Straight to the point... the property "plot area size" not only resizes the plot area, but also the graph; this is in contrast with what happened previously in LV2011. If the graph belongs to a subpane and if the property "fit control to pane" is enabled, the area resize prevents the graph from correctly fitting the pane.
Any suggestion?
cheers
m.
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I think that since this behavior is a regression (working properly until LabVIEW 2011 SP1) this should be fixed as soon as possible through a specific fix, without waiting for the next Service Pack.
This regression has been blocking the development of our application.
Could someone from the NI support give an answer, please?
Vix
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