Aggregates with Attribute Change Run and Master data

Hi !
I created Aggregate which includes Master Data such as Customer , Customer Number , Material , Material Number.....
It also contains navigational attribute and hierarchy...
Now we all know that if Master data and Hierarchy changes frequently(or some new values are added or new attributes are added etc.) we want to see the respective change in Aggregates too
So just Rolling up aggregate will not help.
We need to apply Attribute Change run for this purpose, to aggregates..
Now the question is HOW TO APPLY ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN to aggregates?
How to automate this process with Process chains..?
If i create Aggregate on Master Data CUSTOMER NO., DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE THAT AGGREGATE IN ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN FOR THAT CUSTOMER NO. PROCESS CHAINS ? Yes or No..........
(What i mean to say is if there is Attribute Change Run for Customer No. and if this is in Process chains specially created for Customer Number , than as aggregates are created on Customer No., does i t automatically applies and make changes to Aggregate too, or do we hvae to create special process chian for it ?)
Please reply asap ? its urgent

hi,
check these links for attribute change run
What's the attribute change run? and the common sequence of a process chain
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw30b/helpdata/en/80/1a67ece07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/content.htm
regards
harikrishna N

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Thanks and Regards
S

Hi S,
Although they seem to be the same there are differences.
Master Data activation.: When you load master data, they are loaded as D or M versions. Check the table as /BI0/P<infoobject tech name> , you will see different versions, if you have not activated your master data yet.
Note : If you are checking for SAP standard objects, drop the 0 eg table for 0MATERIAL would be /BI0/PMATERIAL.
When you activate master data, all D and M versions of records get transferred into A or active versions. So after activation, you should not find anything other than A versions.
ACR: The use of an ACR is two fold. 1st use is that it performs the same action as a master data activation automatically.
The 2nd function, is that it realligns the aggregates for the changed attributes
let me give you an example.
You have an aggregate based on material group which is an aggregate of material.
Consider that you have a material X which initial belonged to group A.
The aggregate would look like this
Material Material Group Keyfigure
X A 100
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X B 100
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Attribute change run on master data.

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i have meta chain in that 1 local chain got failed in Load data step tell me every possiblity to load data
1)repeat Process :- why ? what is basic criteria for same
2)manual data load :- how ?
and most important how to run ACR in that cube (diff ways)
Please provide step by step process for same..

1)If a load fails in loading due to exceptions or a conection, we can repeat the step.
Before repeating, we need to delete the previous request in red status.
If it fails in activation, we can resolve the error and then repeat the step.
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Hi.........
Check the conversion Routine for 0MATERIAL.........What conversion routine u hav used.........We r using ALPHA.......this is the standard one........hav u changed it.......
Check this...
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/7108a690-0201-0010-4cbc-9bca94f9ad9c
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Hi SAP Gurus,
I have a doubt about the use of process types Attribute Change Run and Roll up in PC
If any1 can clear my doubts it would be helpful
if possible if any1 can tell me about the list of process types available in Process Chains it would be helpful
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Attribute Change Run and Editing BI data

Hello Experts,
I have two questions.(They are not related to each other).
Can BI data(Infocube data) be edited?
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Attribute Change Run in the process chain ends with error.
"Master data characteristic ZACCTNUM activated in 6 seconds. Error while activating characteristic   ZACCTNUM ". There are no more information.
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Hi Meenakshi,
Regarding your questons:
1. You can't edit the data directly in the cube. If you have incorrect data in the cube and the data is still in the PSA you can edit the incorrect data in the PSA and you can then delete the incorrect requests from the cube. You can then reload the correct data from the PSA. If its not an option to delete individual requests you could delete the incorrect data using the selective deletion option (if you can select on the incorrect data in the cube). You could then reload the correct data from PSA or source system.
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Attribute change run and aggregates

Hi Gurus,
After loading to master data, we do the Attribute change run via RSA!->Tools and select the particular infoobject (which was loaded).
After this do we need to activate the aggregates or are they taken care by the change run which was done for the infoobject.
Also do we need to activate the master data via its context menu or is the attribute change run sufficient.
Thanks,

Whenever you load new datas into your master data table it wil be in M version(Modified version). you are running an attribute change run to change the M version to A version(Active version). so you dont have to activate the master data separately via its context menu.
The attribute change run will aslo take care of your aggregates. You dont have to activate your aggregates separately.

Attribute change Run and Infocube Problem

Hi SAP BW Experts ,
I am getting the following problem
2 days back our production system was down when Attribute change run is running in a process chain . After the system is up I triggered the Attribute change run manually for that specific master data Object. But the jobs was cancled automatically. When I checked the Job log I found the following messages
InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
System error: RSDU_TABLE_COPY_INI/DDIF_TABL_ACTIVATE /BIC/E200073 /BIC/E100073 0
Message no. DBMAN100
When I verified manage screen in the Infocube XXX , one request is not rolled up . when I tried to rollup that particular request manually again I am getting the same message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
When I tried to create Indexes on that Infocunbe XXX , Again I am getting the same message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
When I tried to load data in to that Infocube I am getting the same message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
The Steps Taken By Me:
1. In SM12 , there are no lock entries for the Infocube XXX
2. According to A.H.P reply I verified the Support package . We are having Import Support package 18 for 3.10( BW 3.10 patch 18 or SAPKW31018 )
so I think there is no problem from patch side.
So please let me know by doing which task , I can eliminate the error message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run

I got this reference from one of other site. Hope this solves issues of most of our ques on this topic.
We faced this problem and reported to OSS. They solved our problem.Here is
the answer from OSS
I connected to your BWQ system. I checked the table RSDDAGGRMODSTATEand
found an entrie for a change run "not yet" finished.
CNSID CLOSEDFL TIMESTMP_START TIMESTMP_END TSTPNM
207,851,300 20,030,910,141,500 0 SIDTLHG
As you can see, the field CLOSEDFL is blank (should be 'X' for an ended
change run) and the field TIMESTMP_END is also zero.
You can also check with the function module RSDDS_CHANGERUN_MONITOR as
in note 388069 that both objects you reported are the ones involved
with thi change run error (Infocube ZINV and Infoobject ZELEM_PEP):
E_CR_STATE C
E_T_CHANM 1 Entry (IOBJNM = ZELEM_PEP)
E_T_HIEID 0 Entries
E_T_AGGRSTATE 1 Entry (AGGRID = 3QR79ZYB6VGSDS3C42HPXMA8S
ICUBE = ZINV)
E_T_MSG 1 Entry (IOBJNM = ZELEM_PEP)
You have two choices to solve this problem. You cn either:
1.- Restart the change run and let it finish with ok.
The change run usually fails due to database errors, tablespace
problems, and when some user manually cancel it (NEVER should be
done!!)
2.- Change manually the entry from table RSDDAGGRMODSTATE that isdescribed
above. Set the field CLOSEDFL with a 'X' and also fill the field
TIMESTMP_END with a value with the following format
yy,yym,mdd,hhm,mss. Use, for example, '20,030,910,181,500'
IMPORTANT!!!
After this change on table RSDDAGGRMODSTATE, you have todeactivate
all aggregates, activate again and refill them!!
Hope this solves your error. If the issue is solved, please close this
message with the [confirm] button.
Best regards,
David =C1lvarez
SAP Active Global Support
The answer refers to our problem.We chosed option 2. Here is the AbAPcode:
REPORT ZLOCKED .
tables: RSDDAGGRMODSTATE.
select * from RSDDAGGRMODSTATE where CLOSEDFL = ' '.
RSDDAGGRMODSTATE-CLOSEDFL = 'X'.
RSDDAGGRMODSTATE-TIMESTMP_END = 20020912195015.
MODIFY RSDDAGGRMODSTATE.
ENDSELECT.

Error with Attribute Change Run - Urjent

Hi All,
In our scenario we will load master data from APO&ECC to BW.When we are doing attribute change run we are geetting short dump and jobs are cancelling every time .
Please fidn the details below.
Short Dump : ORA-14400 with ABAP/4 DBIF_RSQL_SQL_ERROR..
When I have searched in the forum I got some information saying that we need to drop the index and recreate the index.But we have around 40 cubes.Then how I am going to deside on which I need to the relavent settings.
Please provide me the proper answer.We are facing this problem from past last two days.
Regards
Ramakanth.

Hi,
You can try going to the monitor for Attribute change run from RSA1 >> tools >> apply change run or from Transaction RSATTR which will schedule/display attribute change run. Here you can have an option called change run monitor (Monitor icon). this wil show the status of change run including which all info objects are affected, and if its hitting the aggregates of any cubes. There are scenarios where the attribute change run failed with message that it was hitting/affecting aggregates of some infocubes. In case we had to switch off aggregates and trigger the change run again and then swtich on the aggregates after the change run is over.
And sometimes ACR goes on running for a long time in such case we need to check which Aggregate the ACR is currently changing and need to deactivate that aggregate.
But before deactivating an aggregate you need to check the data present in that and the usage of the aggregate.
Please use the table RSDDCHNGPROT and find out the infocube affected by this change run and de-activate "ALL" the aggregates
of the infocube listed under CNSID=0. Then start the change-run.
You can rebuild/refill the aggregates once the change-run is finished.This is necessary because there are inconsistencies in the aggregates
Most of the times we have problem with the Attribute Change Run(ACR) running because ACR and the Roll Up's for Aggregates cannot run in parallel.
Also you can try Tcode CHANGERUNMONI/program RSDDS_CHANGERUN_MONITOR to view this data.
176606 - Apply Hierarchy/Attribute change ... long runtime
175309 - Hierarchy/attribute - change run improved
oss note 322644
Hope this helps.
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JituK

Issue with Attribute change run

Hi All
today one of my team memeber has killed attrribute change run, after that when we tried to use option maintain master data, a message were coming attrtibute has cancelled, please re run, even we were not able to load same infobjects, getting message, master data is locked, when it tried to see data in p table then i was getting few entries having delate and insert image( example for infoobject 0customer for customer number c100 two entries one with d flga other one with in flag.)
First i went in t code se14, i put all tables name then cliecked on activate and adjust data.
Even though problem persist,
Also i was not getting any infobjects in lsit( from rsa1-> tools-> attr change run)
Then i created one dummy process chain with process type attr change run and included only inoobject with which i was facing data load issue.
Please advice on my step.
Thanks,
Prem

Hi,
Goto RSATTR Tcode -> Click on Tab Monitor and Start Terminated Change Run -> system will open a new screen -> here you can see the failed change run, please rerun this failed change run and then try to load data, after successful change run things will be normal.
SAP Clearly suggest NOT TO KILL OR CANCEL Change Run Job. If this don't solve you issue, you may need to look for some SAP Note.

Error in process chain with attribute change runs

We have one warning is coming in one process chain :A type "Attribute Change Run" process cannot precede process "Execute InfoPackage"
We checked the Process View , we found that there are number of attribute change run after each scheduling of Info package with different datasource but for same data target.
How to remove this warning .
Some onsite person has added this extra Attribute Change Run recently.

Hi Surendra,
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Bye
Dinesh

Difference between a Change-run and Activate master data

Hi experts,
Could you tell me what is the difference between making a change-run on a masterdata (rsa1 --> Tools --> Apply Hierarchy/Attribute Change...), and making a right-click on this masterdata and click on "Activate master data" ?
The result seems to be the same, all rows in version M (Revised) are changed in version A (Active)...
Thanks for your help.
Tempka.

Hi
Change run will update the master data changes in Aggregates and update the object master data as well.
Activate master data will only activate the new records and it will not update the aggregates.
check out the below thread
Attribute Change Run VS Master data activation
Regards,
Vekatesh

How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregat

Hello
I want to understand that How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate?
I posted previously the same question but there were not good answers and i was not able to understand clearly .....
If there is Process chain XXY which makes Attribute change run for Master Data 0SPELLING ?
Now there is Aggregate TRT which includes :
0SPELLING , Fiscal Period , Purchase Product, Purchase Category ?
Now pls answer following question ?
1) Does the Process Chain XXY which makes only attribute change run alignment for 0SPELLING , Will this process chain automatically do the Change run alignment for 0SPELLING in Aggregate TRT ? YES or NO
2) If Yes, then we are just suppose to do Roll up for Aggregate TRT after Process chian XXY completes and finish job ?
3) If No, then what steps are suppose to be DONE so as to make sure that Aggregate TRT has new values and perfect values for 0SPELLING ?
Please answer and coorect if i have any wrong question....

for e.g.
u have 0spelling whicha has attributes x,y and z on day 1 with 10 records
so do ur aggregates on day1 with same values
now on day2 u had new values of attributes y,z,s,d and new hierarchies and so u add new records
with data load u will load the data with version M of modified and is not available for reporting
If u do attribute change run then this modified version is activated to A i.e. active version .
It will also do the change run alignment for Aggregate for new attribute values and new hierarchy values for aggregate.
now in order for this data to be available for reporting u will need to do the roll up of aggregate.....
if u roll up aggregate before attribute change run , new data is not avaialable for reporting
if u roll up aggregate after attribute change run, then data is available for reporting
if u dont roll up aggregate eventhough new data is in dataprovider, still new data will not be available for reporting.
this is how it works

How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate

Hello
I want to understand that How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate?
I posted previously the same question but there were not good answers and i was not able to understand clearly .....
If there is Process chain XXY which makes Attribute change run for Master Data 0SPELLING ?
Now there is Aggregate TRT which includes :
0SPELLING , Fiscal Period , Purchase Product, Purchase Category ?
Now pls answer following question ?
1) Does the Process Chain XXY which makes only attribute change run alignment for 0SPELLING , Will this process chain automatically do the Change run alignment for 0SPELLING in Aggregate TRT ? YES or NO
2) If Yes, then we are just suppose to do Roll up for Aggregate TRT after Process chian XXY completes and finish job ?
3) If No, then what steps are suppose to be DONE so as to make sure that Aggregate TRT has new values and perfect values for 0SPELLING ?
Please answer and coorect if i have any wrong question....

for e.g.
u have 0spelling whicha has attributes x,y and z on day 1 with 10 records
so do ur aggregates on day1 with same values
now on day2 u had new values of attributes y,z,s,d and new hierarchies and so u add new records
with data load u will load the data with version M of modified and is not available for reporting
If u do attribute change run then this modified version is activated to A i.e. active version .
It will also do the change run alignment for Aggregate for new attribute values and new hierarchy values for aggregate.
now in order for this data to be available for reporting u will need to do the roll up of aggregate.....
if u roll up aggregate before attribute change run , new data is not avaialable for reporting
if u roll up aggregate after attribute change run, then data is available for reporting
if u dont roll up aggregate eventhough new data is in dataprovider, still new data will not be available for reporting.
this is how it works

Attribute change run---imp--urgent

hi experts,
when i am trying to run attribute change run for master data infoobject, always it gets cancelled, the reason system shows for cancelled attribute change run is "Hierarchy/Attribute change cancelled (protocol/Shortdump)"
what is the reason for this and secondly when i try to do the manual activation of that particular infoobject, it gives a pop-up window saying " The infoobject XXXX is already active" which means that though we are doing the manual activation, it is not doing the activation. Why i am strong in saying this is beacuse there were new records entered into that infoobject and after the data loading when i activate it manually because attribute change run is not running successully, it shows that infoobject data is already active.
why is it so ? what could be the reason?
would appreciate your quick responce

Hi,
Are you able to schedule the Attribute change run from Tools-> attribute Hierarchy change run? I hope you still able to see your Info object in the list.
Check the shortdump. May be you can find a clue as sometimes some aggrgetaes cause problem while adjusting. If you find such aggrgeate, deactivate it and run teh change run.
You can also check in the Attribute change run monitor. There also youw ill find clues as which aggrgeate is causing the problem.
Regards
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