Agp-8x radeon on msi neo2 mobo

am hoping someone has encountered this problem before.
i bought a neo2-pls motherboard and tried to have a radeon 9200 (128mb) video card run on it. on startup and with no operating system installed yet, the system freezes with a black screen and no prior display. this happens while on the video card initialization - this according to the d-bracket's led indicators. (agp aperture size is 64mb.)
if i use a friend's old nvidia card, i get to the part where i see the core-cell graphic and intel logo - which means, it runs fine on that other card.
i'm wondering if this radeon card is incapable of being the "first" video card on a new system; i.e., if it's meant to be installed only as an upgrade - which means i'll have to install windows using the nvidia card, then later upgrade to the radeon.
i was told this is a compatibility issue, but because i've already paid for the card and a purchase return is not a very clear option, i'm hoping i could get some answers here.
i'll sincerely appreciate any help i can get.
thanks.
mike

found this useful link on MSI's site for MS-6738 MoBo:
tests with various PCI and AGP VGA cards
So i guess i can go ahead and upgrade to a cool ATI or nVidia 8x card without much worries... (offtopic: anyone knows wats the 'best value' solution for Doom3 ?)
maybe i will check up my power-supply also.. just to be sure it can handle the extra load... loads of info on that in this forum.
Is anyone running Doom3 successfully with a similar config ?
thanks a ton ppl.
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