AGP 8X VGA on (old) MS-6547

Hi, i'm thinking about upgrading my VGA to a 6600-based. However, all the new boards are AGP 8X and my motherboard (MS-6547 / 645E Max-U) is only AGP 4X. I have read that AGP 8X is retrocompatible with AGP 4X. However, i have also read on some sites, that the signaling voltage is not (or it may not be), as AGP 8X use 0.8V and AGP 4X 1.5V.
So, what do you think it will happen in my case? Will the GPU work, or will i end up with a burned GPU and MB?
Thanks.

Really? Great, going to buy mine now!
But how do you find that out? I tried searching the web about those family of cards and didn't see any of that on the specs. The tech details rarely say anything about the supported voltage. For example, Gigabyte's 6600 versions only say the board is 8X AGP 3.0, which is not very helpful...
I wish the specifications were more... specific.

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Originally posted by Supershanks
1) Build
1) hold MOBO near case & install mobo mounting studs, ensuring their lined up with screw holes in mobo. Check you have a stud for each hole & also double check the count to make none are left over from old mobo, these may short out the mobo if left in.
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