AGP Card on MSI mainboard

Hello ppl im new in this and i have just a few questions :P
Im interested which AGP Graphic Card shall i put in my Computer if i want tu upgrade it a bit ?
First of all im asking because some ppl told me that it even does make diferences with motherboards for AGP Video cards.
Now i have ATi Radeon 9600 Pro (128 mb) and i want to putt just a bit more ( like 512 mb or so ) but i dont know which one shall i buy or what goes in my computer
here are specifications :
Motherboard
   Manufacturer   MSI
   Model   MS-7030
   Version   3.0
   Chipset Vendor   NVIDIA
   Chipset Model   nForce3 250
   Chipset Revision   A1
   Southbridge Vendor   NVIDIA
   Southbridge Model   nForce3 MCP
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
   Cores   1
   Threads   1
   Name   AMD Athlon 64 3000+
   Code Name   Venice
   Package   Socket 754
I have power suply 500W so im interested what shall i buy ?
If anyone can responde ty coz i know you ppl know more than me anyway 

It depends what AGP cards you can still find available. What online stores are you able to buy from where you are?
We can only recommend MSI products on this forum by the way.
Make sure your power supply has enough amps on the +12v rail/s whatever card you choose - https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=104805.0

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