AGP Card Voltage?

I have a new motherboard (MSI KT4AV) for Athlon Xp cpu,
the manual says it only uses agp cards with 1.5 volts. Now
can I use my Geforce4 MX 440 T8X card on this mainboard?
Does mx 440 uses 1.5v? what will happen if I use agp cards
with higher voltage? and can somebody give me some list
of agp cards ( MSI or ATI cards) with 1.5 volts. Thanks!!!

circusflea,
All 8x Vid Cards work with all 8x and 4x Mobos. All 8x Mobos work with all 8x and 4x Vid Cards.
Take Care,
Richard
P.S. cgrossi the 4X Vid Cards use 1.5v (and can do 3.3v), the 8X Vid Cards do 0.8v (and can do 1.5v).

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but I fancied a bit of extra performance in games so I got an Asus N6200 128mb AGP card.
6200 is no good for gaming, probably no better than the onboard graphics you already have now
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Its half height and has passive cooling so it looked ideal for the Mega.
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Hi.. and hope someone can help me with this.
I’ve read about a lot of info about problems with AGP ports on MSI boards but still cannot get a clue about my particular problem.
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AMD XP 2.400
MBO:MSI KT4V (MS-6712 ver 10A)
RAM: 256MB
Case: 400W
OS: Win2K SP3
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My tries:
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3.3V - 28A or better
5V - 30A or better
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<http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=CC1BA768&nplm= M8661>
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<http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3170810>
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<http://www.welovemacs.com/agpg5vica.html>
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10460940&#10460940
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10319750&#10319750
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http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D379 42BEE.html
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Overclocking my PT880 got best results with a PCI video card instead of a AGP card. Why?

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Your AGP bus uses more bandwith than the PCI bus, thus making the OC more dependend from the AGP bus. And if your AGP slot will drain more CPU power and fragile as AGP can be, it will not tolerate errors due higher clock speeds. Mhz += Stability -. Notice: PCI is 33 Mhz/ AGP is 66/133 Mhz... . As you see there is less margin for errors. While you overclock the CPU will make tolerable errors: NP with PCI... But AGP... will take it to the MAX. [I hope this reply is No nonsense]

Where can I find a list of AGP cards(1.5v) that would work on my MS-6545 mobo.

Sorry to post this if this topic has been addressed before but the search feature on this forum is down..."page can not be displayed."
Where can I find a list of AGP cards(1.5v) that would work on my MS-6545 mobo Intel 850E.
Thanks for your help.

vavadie,
The difference in performance between running a Vid Card a 4X for 8X is about 3%, or nothing to the naked eye. The Bandwidth for 4X is now just barely being used up, which is why there is no change in performance.
4X AGP cards had their production runs stop about 4 years ago, you are not going to see any on the market. The price difference between 4X and 8X AGP is 0 anyway, so it does not matter.
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