AGP Driving value?????

Does anyone know what a good AGP driving value for the Radeon 8500LE would be? I used to have a Tyan Trinity board and a Geforce 2 MX video card. There were optimal settings Tyan supplied to customers for their particular video cards. IS there anything here like that???

There is no recommended values by either ATI or MSI. But I use "EA", so far so good.

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AGP Driving Value: TNT-2 RIVA

Hello!
I'm trying to figure the best AGP Driving Value for my TNT-2 RIVA 16MB video card in my BIOS. I've found several Internet posts suggesting a setting of EA (234), but that was for the nvidia GEForce chip set, so who knows? Any hints?
My Specs:
K7T Pro2-A (M-6330) - no problems yet! 8o
AMD Thunderbird 850mhz
TNT-2 Riva 128 16mb AGP
128 MB or RAM (will be 192 soon)
Thanx!
Don Diego Carteblanche

:O
Ferget iT! I just bought a GeForce2 card the other day and sent the manufacturer an e-mail about the correct setting. MSI really should have these numbers posted if they are going to force people to interact with a hex value in BIOS.
Who the hex knows what they were thinking? Almost as bad as putting an in-board modem on a mohobard ~ yawn. I hope no "hackers" mysteriously dial behind my other modem and fry my board, then i'd have to buy another one. YIKES!
Thanks for nothing MSI message board folk!
-Don Diego Carteblanche

K7N2 BIOS: AGP Clock Value?

In the release BIOS version for the K7N2, should the AGP clock be kept at default (66mhz) or increased to the clock value of the video card? Oh, if anyone can tell me what ratios to use with 768mb PC2700 RAM in the BIOS, that would be helpful, as well. Thank You.

the agp clock frequency thing runs with personal prefrences.......sometimes a small overclock is good...but not necessary.....
the memory question.....if you are running a cpu with a fsb of 333mhz auto for memory is ok since you have 333mhz ram......but if it is a 266mhz cpu then I would run it @ 1.1 with fsb for best performance all around....this way you can up the fsb of the cpu and always keep you ram in synch.

FX5200 games problem

first of all, sorry for creating another "FX5200 problem" topic, but i've read the latest ones and im not sure they've got the same problem...
i've just bought a GeForce FX5200 T128. i installed the card and everything, and even downloaded the lastest driver from MSI's site (44.039x)... but most of my games are not even running (that's right they don't even start), apparently a rendering problem as it says on "TRON 2.0 DEMO" and "Morrowind"... and they were working just fine on my previous card (GF2 MX400)
my system is a Athlon XP1700, ASUS A7S333, 256DDR266
running windows 98 SE

Good that I found somebody who has a similar problem. You guys on this forum are really good and maybe my last hope.
I have an IWILL K266 mobo with AMD Athlon 1GHz
Processor with VIA chipset. I have the latest BIOS for
the motherboard. I have a couple of issues:
1. Any 3D game does not run. It either exits silently after the intro video(Starfleet command) or with an error (Ghost Recon)or
with a popup note saying "Cannot open Display Mode"
(Trophy Demo), or does not even start (IL sturmovik demo).
2. Old Game called Freespace-2 cannot find the
accelerator card
3. When I look at the MSI Information Tab under the
Display, I see that the AGP Enable box and AGP4x box is not set. If I try to
set them, it does not allow me to do this. My motherboard
supports AGP4x/2x and its BIOS is set to AGP4x.
4. Setting the Motherboard BIOS to AGP2x does not
help.
5. dxdiag works fine except some MIDI audio test.
6. I am appending the modified system info. that MSI Live generates. Note that it says the card is “Offline”!! What does this mean?
I have the latest BIOS for the mobo and DirectX9.0b driver and the latest Nvidia drivers provided via MSI Live Utility(MSI drivers don’t work either). The ONLY thing that I do not have is the latest VGA BIOS from MSI. But then, I don’t want to upgrade that until someone tells me that it will solve the problem.
I noted a long thread about a problem similar to mine but affecting the FX5900 cards. However, they have the same problem when running at AGP8X and it works if they move to AGP4X. I tried setting the mobo BIOS to AGP2x but it does not help.
I tried setting the “AGP Driving Value” in my BIOS to EA and E7(Default was DA) with no effect.
Based on another forum thread, I tried to find if there was a Registry entry named “4XAGP” but I could not find any such entry in my local registry.
Can someone please help me before I decide that this card is a pure POS and RMA it back to Amazon before 30 days are over.
****************System Information****************
[MSI_Info]
OS Version:      WinME
LUS Version:      3.51.000
VGA Model Name:      MS-8907
VGA Driver Version:   4403
VGA MSI Version:   123
[OS]
Name:         Microsoft Windows ME
Version:      4.90.3000
Total Virtual Memory:   1123 MB
Free Virtual Memory:   751 MB
Total Visible Memory:   256 MB
Free Physical Memory:   42 MB
[MOBO/System]
Description:      IWILL KK266
Chipset:      Via
Number Of Processors:   1
Total Physical Memory:   256 MB
Power Supply State:   2
Power Manage. Support:   false
Bootup State:      Normal
Award BIOS
[CPU]
Name:         AMD Athlon processor
Max Clock Speed:   1000 MHz
Current Clock Speed:   1000 MHz
Current Voltage:   3.3 V
External Clock:      133 MHz
L2 Cache Size:      256 Kb
Availability:      Running/Full Power
Power Manage. Support:   false
State:         OK
[Memory]
Name:         Physical Memory
Memory Device Locator:   BANK_0
Memory Bank Label:   Bank0/1
Memory Capacity:   256 MB
Memory Total Width:   null Bits
Memory Data Width:   null Bits
Memory Type:      Unknown
[Sound Device]
Name:         Creative Voice Modem Serial Wave Device
Manufacturer:      Microsoft
Product Name:      Creative Voice Modem Serial Wave Device
Availability:      Running/Full Power
Power Manage. Support:   false
State:         OK
Name:         CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio
Manufacturer:      C-Media
Product Name:      CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio
Availability:      Running/Full Power
Power Manage. Support:   false
State:         OK
[Network Adapter]
Name:         ISA Dial-Up Adapter
Manufacturer:      ?
Availability:      Running/Full Power
Power Manage. Support:   false
State:         OK
Name:         NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter
Manufacturer:      NETGEAR
Product Name:      NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet PCI
Adapter
Availability:      Running/Full Power
Power Manage. Support:   false
State:         OK
[Video Controller]
Name:         MSI MS-StarForce GeForce FX 5200 (NVIDIA
GeForce FX 5200)
Current Refresh Rate:   -1 Hz
Installed Drivers:   nvdisp.drv
Driver Version:      4.0
Availability:      Off Line
Monochrome:      false
State:         OK
[Video Configuration]
Name:         Current Video Configuration
Monitor Manufacturer:   ViewSonic
Monitor Type:      ViewSonic PF790-2
Inf File name:      VIEWSO~2.INF
Horizontal Resolution:   1024
Vertical Resolution:   768
Screen Height:      203
Screen Width:      270
[Power Supply]
Antec PP-303X (300W)
Voltage   Max DC Output    Peak Output
+3.3      14A
+5      30A         Incl. +3.3V, 160W peak
+12      10A         10A
-12      0.5A         0.5A
-5      0.5A         0.5A
+5SB      2A         2A
IRQ Settings:
0   System Timer
1   Standard Keyboard
2   PIC
3   COM2
4   Creative Modem Blaster Flash 56
5   –
6   Floppy Controller
7   LPT1/printer
8   System CMOS/real Time Clock
9   SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus
10   ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
Netgear FA310TX Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter
VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
11   ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
12   ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
CMI8738/C3DX PCI MPU-401
13   Numeric data Processor
14   VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
Primary IDE Controller
15   VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
Secondary IDE Controller
I also have a couple of devices attached to the USB ports but they are all inactive/powered off except the mouse.

MSI G4Ti4400-vtd DOA?

I just got a G4 Ti4400-vtd and haven't been able to get it working. I can load W2000 or W98 and everything is fine until I try to play a game or run a DVD.
Then it crashes and freezes my system. Sometimes a black screen with a white cursor, but not always. I have not been able to play a game or video for even a second.
I have tried several clean installs of the OS and reseating the card. I have also tried several MSI and Detonator drivers with no luck. Also have updated motherboard drivers, installed DirectX 8.1 etc.
When I put my old Viper 550 in everything works fine.

I just looked up on this board at Soyo.
Very impressive.
There was an article on your board and video card issues.
It said to install Via4in1 first.
Check memory modules.
Not much help here????
1) So what you could try is to install Via4in1, then install your det drivers, install Dx8, then install AGP drivers which are part of Via4in1 but you can download separate from Via.
I would suggest Via4in1 version 4.40 and AGP ver 4.20a.
(as the new ones are beta still)
2) Check your AGP voltage in your BIOS and see what is shown. I don't know anything bout this board but for the Gf4 AGP should be 1.5v. Also look for anything else in your Bios that could be related to AGP and see what is shown. Only change things when you feel 100% confident though. AGP driving value is one you shouldn't touch at the moment but anything else could be fine.
3) Do step 1) again but when installing Via4in1 untick Turbo mode and Tick standard.
You should check Soyo site and see what you come up with. Check on newer drivers etc and check how to change AGP value, if you can.
Hope this helps some...
ps just a quick note.
It is usually best when installing new card to redo Operating System from a reformat.

Msi 648 max issues

When i first got this board I was running a p4 2,4b a 3d prophet 2 ti 256 megs ddr 333 (windobond chips ?) 300 watt generic psu, I was pleased with the performance at first i was able to get the fsb up to 147 and had no problems, I upgraded the system with another stick of the same ram a msi gf4 4200 ti and an enermax 450 watt psu.
Right away i had problems with the gf4 Playing some d3d games (ut2003) would cause the system to lock up with the monitor losing signal but the sound still playing, i disabled the onboard sound and added my old Sb live 5.1 disabled sideband and fastwrites with riva tuner. after that the system was a little more stable but now when i up the fsb even 1 mhz i get the same problem the monitor signal is gone and the system wont post i changed some settings in ut2003.ini file and i havent had the problem playing games but the overclock isssue is now puzzling me just overall a weird board I tried to hack the bios with amibcp but apparentlythere is an issue with msi bios and amibcp... would like to have agp driving values or some agp settings in bios to try to resolve this

The soundblaster is in the second slot and the ram chips are identical but i do find the system more stable with only one stick installed with one stick it will run at cas 2 with 2 it only runs 2.5. I dont want to complain about the board but it is definatly a challenge so far Im still better off with this than my via setup

KT4 ultra (6590) and Randeon 8500 instability

This is my pc:
Msi Kt4 Ultra (6590)
Athlon Xp 2000+
512 mb ddr pc 2700
Ati Radeon 8500 Ret.
maxtor diamondplus 8 80gb
Pioneer DVD 16x slot-in
Asus ISDN Adapter internal
Skystar 2 DVB sat Adapter
Power Supply Deer 350 W (amd certificaded)---- 5v/35A
3,3/24A
Monitor 19" Philps 109B.
S.O WinXP PRO SP1.
My systems runs great but when i play games sometimes my system crash and (very curios) before about 3-5 min of game play i see small interferences like small white orizzontal jolt similar the interference when a cellular phone ring near the monitor. the problem it persists with any resolution and any monitor refresh rate !!!!!
What i've tested:
I have the lasted KT4 ultra bios, test any Randeon Drivers (include the lasted 779 beta drivers) and lasted via's drivers
Near my monitor there isn't any interference source !!
Monitor is perfect (tested in other system )
it's not Radeon8500 problem because i play games perfectly in other system (a7v266 and same hardware)
KT4 are not damaged because i play game perfectly with another video card (geforce2 Mx400)
It's not a PSU problem because i replaced AMD athlon 2000 + with AMD Athlon 900 (the rest hardware is the same) and the problem it persists.
although i have 5 years experience under PC assemblage , I do not know that what to make!!!
is There an incompatibility with Radeon8500 and KT4 Ultra ??
Please someone can help me ??? ;( ;(

It might be the AGP driving value problem. Set it to EA in BIOS. It works for most people with components like yours. If that does not help, switch to AGP 2x and see if the problem went away. If it did, look for other DGP Driving values and turn off some AGP related features (sideband, fastwrite etc)
If that did not help,
See this post and try to draw come conclusions. Sometimes the Power Supply is at fault not because of being underpowered (which you checked with Athlon 900) but because of the incorrectunstable voltages and other similar crap. With 266Mhz fsb and 333Mhz memory interface the boards now are too sensitive to cheep power supplies.
Good Luck
KT3 Ultra2
Athlon 1800+
PowerColor Radeon8500 128mb
No-name 512 memory
No-name 400W power supply

GF 4200 only works with AGP 2x

Hi,
few days ago I bought a MSI GF 4200 TD64. One problem: Everytime I tried 3D mark 2001 it locks up. Computer hangs, only hard reset is possible. Hm, newest driver etc. Last I tested was BIOS settings. If I disable AGP 4x and set this value to 2x all works fine (!?)
Board = Asus KT7A Raid with newest BIOS (7N). Maybe there is an other setting that has negative influence to AGP settings (AGP aperture size or something???)
Any Idea?
Regards Frank

Hi,
thanks for your answer!
I tested a bit last night...
>Aparature size shouldn't be more than 128. 64 is a >good round number though.
Jepp 64 is OK, I thought about playing with the "AGP Driving Control" settings, but 2 Hex digits = 16 x 16 possibilities 8o
>Have you the 28.90 drivers? Try 29.42 or the 30.30.
Oh, no I tried the 27.20 from MSI page...maybe no good idea...
>Turn of all CPU enhancements(fast cpu,drive strength >1 or 2, enhance chip performance). FSB at standard >133/33 or 100/33
>and ram at cas3.
>Update the VIA 4in1 and install with TURBO mode t>icked.
Maybe it is related to this settings, when I load BIOS defaults and turn on AGP 4x then 3d mark runs through. But I like my "turbo" settings :D and my value ram with cas 2. I think I will test the latest Nvidia driver. The problem up to now only exists in 3dmark - maybe the other stuff works fine...
>It could be a GF4 thing, so you could maybe search the >post on this problem.
ojeojeoje....
Thanks a lot!!!

KT3 Ultra2 + Heavy AGP usage = crash & beeps on reboot

PROBLEM: (story has 2 very exciting parts)
Part 1: When start using apps with intencive accellerated graphics, the computer gives a blank screen and hangs there forewer. After a while, monitor goes into powersaving mode.
Ex.: After passing the 1st, low-res (truck) test on Sysmark2001 successfully, sysmark happily and consistently hangs on the hi-res (truck) test.
Part 2 (More Interesting part): After the computer goes into blank screen (explained above), I push "reset" button and get:
- no picture
- several beeps (8 or 9). It is hard to say how many beeps; they all a short and first one is Very abrupt.
- The "D-"-whatever lights show code for "Testing RTC (Real Time Clock)"
- same thing happening no matter how many times I press reset. I have to unplug the computer for a while to make it boot normally.
SYSTEM INFO:
MSI KT3 Ultra2 mobo
Athlon 1800+ CPU
PowerColor Radeon 8500 based 128meg AGP video card.
No-name manufacturer 256mb PC2100 DDR RAM sticks
No-name manufacturer 400W PSU
all my other cards were removed for/while troubleshooting.
THINGS TRIED:
Since the "issue" continues after reboot, I immediately rule out the software problems. (though I did reinstall windows and tried other/newer chipset and video drivers for the heck of it)
- used 1 other memory chip (different brand) (no help)
- Used the Video card and memory in other computers (work fine)
- used other mobo (asus A7V133) and parts with the case and PSU (works fine)
- updated bios (no help)
- changed AGP Driving vale, AGP speed (1x,2x,4x), memory timing, disabling/enambling anything possible in BIOS. (none helped)
THINGS DID NOT TRY:
(I do not have unlimited budget, you know..)
- Another brand of accellerated video card (what is the point? I like my Radeon8500-128mb and it works with other boards. If KT3 is incompatible, screw KT3)
- Did not try another PSU (Do not have any better than the one I have.) If it is a problem, I do not mind buying a new one. But, is IT the problem?
- What else did I not try? You tell me.
WHAT I SUSPECT:
- Motherboard has electrical problems, or
- My PSU may be underpowered (but why the problem continues during the low-power bootup?)

Thenk you guys for such a prompt response
Let me address your questions/comments
> (maesus) Did you try - Load BIOS Setup Default
Yeah, I tried that.
> (maesus) do not overclock, everything goes default
I am a heat, noise and temperature control freak. I never overclock. I am more likely to underclock than overclock. Incidentally, I did try to underclock the FSB and memory to 100Mhz in order to see if the problem goes away. - It does not go away.
> (maesus) Update VIA 4-in-1 drivers to 4.43v and ATI Catalyst to 2.3
I tried Via 4-in-1 v 4.43, 4.41. I tried Catalyst 2.3 and 2.2. As for trying older drivers, my philosophy is the following: If the board makes me downgrade drivers and features in order to be functional, I get rid of the board, not the features. Downgrading Via 4-in-1 does not make much of a difference. Downgrading Catalyst further brings performance and features down significantly enough.
> (maesus) My suggestion to the AGP Driving signals is EA.
Thanks for the suggested value. It is so hard to find things like this. I looked all over the net and PowerColor groups to find values that work, and found none that match my system. I did try this value, though. I keep a list of values that usually work for me, and EA is one of them. Nothing from my list worked.
As a side-note, setting AGP to bellow 4x usually makes Driving Value setting irrelevant. On my previous boards, I would set AGP to 2x and Driv Value to Auto - the board would usually work OK. With KT3 though, The problem consistently happens even at AGP 1x.
> (maesus) Please try another more powerful PSU, borrow first before you buy
I will try this later in the week.
> (hjongste) You may need to clear CMOS first. Sometimes there is more to it than just shorting the jumpers. Read my page on this.
That is a neat site you have! I will try your suggestion later in the week. Right now the board is back in the box.

TI4600 Stability

Hi,
I have a MSI GF4 TI 4600 in my PC and I have just recently upgraded my processors to use the full capabilities of the card.
Current Setup:
- Gigabyte - GA6VTXD - Motherboard Running Dual PIII 1.4's
- MSI 8872
- 756Mb Ram (PC150)
- Seagate Barra IV's
- OS Win XP with NVidia 29.42 drivers
Hence I would like to play the games at reasonable resolutions (1024x768 and up) but I am finding that when I up the resolution from 800x600 (or lower) the machine simply is locking up.
I have been running SETI for hours, and no lock ups, but when going into Nascar 2002, it will lock immediately at 1024x768, but runs fine on 800x600 (x16), and will lock after a while on 800x600x32.
It is very strange, if anyone has any suggestions of what to try it would be appreciated.
AP.

I have a similar problem with my MS-8872. :( I have, however, spent a week carefully isolating the problem.
Problem symptoms:
1) During DVD playback (using the bundled MSIDVD (InterVideo WinDVD) 3.1 or a copy of InterVideo WinDVD 4.0), the machine totally locks-up after 0-40 minutes of playback. The only remaining operating interface is the power/reset buttons. It has been repeatedly observed that after ~15 minutes of being locked up, the machine reboots itself.
2) During looping MPEG playback in Apple QuickTime 5 and 6, the above described lock-up is generated.
3) During play of the bundled games (AquaNox, sacrifice, and No One Lives Forever (1)), the above described lock-up is generated.
Relevant Hardware:
Gigabyte GA-7VRXP V.2.0 (with F11 BIOS -- disabled all USB, serial, parallel, IDE RAID, Ethernet, audio, 2nd IDE)
Athlon XP 1800+
2 x 512MB DDR/266 ECC registered SDRAM DIMMs
MSI GF4 Ti 4600 (MS-8872)
Relevant software:
Win98SE
DirectX 8.1b
(media players and games as listed above)
Relevant drivers:
Via 4-in-1 v. 443v
Adaptec FMS v. 3.0.3
nVidia 30.82 (and earlier)
Although additional hardware is present and different BIOS versions and software drivers were used in isolating the problem, in the fully configured machine, the isolation process reduced the machine to this configuration in the process of identifying which component was causing the failure.
With the above configuration, failure was *not* observed by replacing the video card with:
Diamond V770 Ultra (TNT2 Ultra, 32MB),
Eagle GeForce3 Ti 500 (64MB), or
ChainTech GeForce4 Ti 4600 (128MB).
In all these cases, the machine was able to loop DVD playback, MPEG playback, and idle the above games for >40 consecutive hours.
Therefore, the problem with Ti4600 playback has been isolated to the MSI card. Further, it has been demonstrated that this is not an issue of interaction with other hardware (none was present). Finally, it has been shown that substantially similar hardware (the ChainTech card) was able to successfully operate without difficulty.
The following additional remedies were taken:
1) Underclock the MSI video card to its minimal settings.
2) Replace the HD and reinstall the OS and abovementioned software in a minimal configuration.
3) Remove the DVD player and only play back content from the HD (in case the DVD player was causing trouble).
4) Move the MSI card to another machine and observe that identical failure is observed. (This last was performed as follows: for 13 repetitions, randomly assign the MSI card and the ChainTech card to two substantially different machines. Start both machines looping the same content. Observe which machine failed first. In all 13 cases, the machine with the MSI card failed first. The probability of this occurring if both cards were equally likely to fail first was 1/8192 ~= 0.012%.)
5) Configured motherboard to be maximally conservative: slowest RAM timings, underclocking the processor and RAM, various combinations of AGP aperture, PCI write combining, et c..., and whatever Gigabyte thinks "Fail-safe" settings are. AGP compensation values were not manually adjusted (as there is no documentation about the effect of this setting from Gigabyte nor the ideal range of this setting from MSI).
Thus, despite extraordinary isolation efforts (not available to most home video enthusiasts), no method was found to eliminate the failure of this card under heavy video load.
Miscellaneous items:
Note that this motherboard (GA-7VRXP) is known to require significant current at 3.3V. Most GeForce4 Ti cards also require substantial 3.3V peak current. The power supply in this machine is easily rated to 130% of the stated peak current requirements of all the components at each supplied voltage. (The original 400W P/S was found to be more suited to driving large HD arrays and was replaced for this reason.)
Question (finally!):
So, how do I make this rather expensive video card outperform the $40 TNT2Ultra I've got lying around as a spare part?

Kt3ultra2 and geforce cards (my experience)

Well... I thought that I should share this with the rest of you. Especially those having problems making the kt3ultra2 happy with geforce cards. I RMA'd one board, but the new one I got did the same thing. The problem was the 'random reboot' in 3d games. I addressed all issues from heat to power etc.. timing, driving value, driver versions (4in1 and nvidia)... bla blah. Here are my findings:
I could never get a geforce2 ti or mx to work with this board without crashing in bf1942 and in medal of honor. I tried two vendors for the geforce2 cards. Perhaps others will have better luck (I know some have) but I blame incompatibilities on the card maker (not the GPU maker). Mine was an AOpen gf2ti, a friends, a visiontek gf2mx.
A friends geforce4 440mx worked great (chaintech) and so did the geforce4 4200 ti (gainward brand, red board just like kt3ultra2!) that I ended up buying. With both of the geforce4 cards, I used a dram voltage (system ram) of 2.6. I also enabled fast write on my agp bus. I have read elsewhere that dram voltage can go down under load and that bumping it up to 2.6 will privide more tollerance to dropping below the 2.5 requirement (or something to that nature). I found that it DID make the system stable with this gf4 and my two pc2700 dimms.
As of now, my system is stable (finally). One thing I can say for the kt3ultra2 is that it really is agp picky. I don't know if this is common to all kt333 chipsets or not but I can safely say that gf2's just *don't work* with this board in my experience. There are many cases of people with it working though so like I said earlier.. it's probably the array of card makers that are causing this.
Wayne

That's weird. I have a KT3 Ultra2BR mobo, and actually it happily accept any agp card I put on it. I have tried the original geforce2 mx, geforce2 titanium, geforce4 ti 4200, radeon 7000, also the ati rageII, and a few others. All is accepted and work well. I used the gf4ti 4200 most, and I have never had any BSOD/error or any problem at all, although I used a cheapie 300W PSU (the PSU is so awful that my 3.3Volt line dropped to 3.00 volt).

How to add addtitional pages in design view?

How do I create additional pages in design view? I have tried using NEW PAGE AFTER, but that doesnt add another page in design view, like I need.
I am creating a report that uses 8 subreports per page to dynamically create labels. Currently I have a report header, and am using the page header to arrange the subreports so the top of each subreport prints on the top of each label. The fields in the subreports can grow, and fill in the label from the top down.
I need to create a multiple pages using this format, but I dont know how to add more pages in design view. Essentially I need subreports 1-8 on page 1, 9-16 on page 2, etc. I would like to preserve the formatting I have created thus far, but I can always change it if I have to.

In attempting to create the label sheets I needed, I ended up creating 14 separate reports (which report on 6 individual queries), because there are 14 pages worth of labels that need to be created. What I wish to accomplish is to condense these 14 reports down to 6 reports. One for each query. What I absolutely cant find a way to do, is to get Crystal Reports to allow me to customize subreports on consecutive pages. Again, I have 8 subreports on each page, which have been formatted to fit on 8 labels when printed. Each subreport is identical in design, but has a different range selected (i.e. my driving value in each subreport has been modified with Select Expert to be between 1 and 5, or 6 and 10, or 11 and 15). This is how I have been able to return 5 consecutive results on each label, with the next label returning the following 5 results.
My ultimate question: Is it possible to create a multi-page report using this method?

Ideal BIOS Settings for online gaming

this is my 1st computer that i built. i have a lot of experience in wiring high-end electronics, so wiring this little rig with barely any visible wires/cables was a breeze. I bought the processor/mobo with the intention of only doing minor O/C as i dont really know all that much on the hardware side of improving performance. with that said, i've searched for timings and settings for my specific combination, and i cant find any. again, i dont really want to push the config past a safe level, as i will be selling this machine when the 64's come down in price. can someone help me set the proper frequencies/timings? i have a lot to learn, and even in the normal bios settings i don't know if certain things should be enabled or disabled for my main purpose, which is to simply play 3D online games very fast. i will be changing out the GeforceFX5200 PCI for a 5600 AGP in a week or so. I'm noticing that my old Comcrap PIII 1.0Ghz w/512SDRAM with this video card gets just as good a ping ingame as this rig does. the machine starts quickly, runs offline programs quickly, but online it isnt as fast as i'd hoped. from what i've read in the other forums, there are many settings in the bios that are enabled by default that don't need to be. can someone help me decipher which settings are useful and which are not. i loosely understand some of the settings but if someone could help with the questions below and/or do a walkthru for bios geared toward gaming i'd really appreciate it. The machine runs very cool (CPU 104*F/SYS 93*F) but i dont know what else needs adjustment. I simply want to make this machine go as fast and as hard as it can with the right config. i don't want to unlock the processor yet or do anything else major at this point.
1: Best yet safe Voltage for my processor and RAM
2: FSB clock; 133 or 166? had problems @ 200
3: S.M.A.R.T. on or off?
4: Best IRQ/PCI slot for video card
5: "GoodMEM" utility: how much should i safely allot?
6: Video BIOS Cacheable?
7: Multiplier setting for K7N2DeltaL & XP2600+
8: VGA Aperture (my card is 128MB but PCI. upgrading soon)
i'll be learning more as i go along, so i dont really need a full explanation of what's what, lol THIS TIME. all i need is a rundown where someone tells me what to leave alone, and what to change for a very fast yet safe gaming rig

OK I'm officially confused.
I bought the retail boxed AthlonXP2600+, which clearly states on the packaging "With 333 MHZ Frontside Bus". i bought the board over others, one reason being it supported 400MHz FSB. I go into "Advanced Chipset Features" and when i set the "System Performance" to "Manual", i can then go into the "CPU FSB Clock" settings, but the max it will allow me to go to is 233MHz (which won't boot and i have to flip the jumpers. when i had set it to 200MHz before, it failed to boot as well... PLEASE can someone look over these settings and tell me the OPTIMAL settings for taking this combo as fast as it can go w/o overclocking? What am i doing wrong? what multiplier do i need to be at. I'm under the impression that the combo works best when the clock speed of the board is at the same speed as the processor. here are the BIOS settings with which i need advice:
ADV. BIOS
Virus Warning [Disabled]
External Cache [Enabled]
Quick Boot [Enabled]
1st Boot [Floppy]
2nd Boot [HDD]
3rd Boot [CD]
Boot Other Device [Enabled]
Swap Floppy [Disabled]
Seek Floppy [Enabled]
Boot Up Num Lock LED [On]
Gate A20 Option [Fast]
Typematic Rate Setting [Disabled]
Security Option [Setup]
APIC Function [Enabled]
MPS Table Version [1.4]
BOOT OS/2 for DRAM>64MB [No]
HD S.M.A.R.T. [Enabled]
Video BIOS Cacheable [Enabled]
ADV. CHIPSET
System Performance [High Performance]
CPU FSB Clock [166MHz]
AGP 8x Support [Enabled]
AGP Fastwrite Support [Enabled]
System BIOS Cacheable [Disabled]
Video RAM Cacheable [Enabled]
AGP Aperture Size [128MB]
I do currently have a PCI GeForceFX5200 8o, but im getting an AGP FX5600 this week. i know my card has nothing to do with AGP, but i've left most of the AGP settings alone since i'll be using it later. is this creating a bottleneck or tying up system memory to have it this way for now?
FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE CTRL
AGP Clock Value [Default]
xAGP Clock Value [66]
AGP Voltage Adjust [1.5V]
DRAM Voltage Adjust [2.7V]
CPU Ratio [By H/W]
CPU Vcore Select [By H/W]
PCI Clock Auto-Detect [Enabled]
Again, I have an 333MhzFSB Chip and a board that will support up to 400MhzFSB. help!

Overclock

Hi in my Bios (MSI k7n2 Delta L)
Current cpu clock 1733 mhz
CPU SB Clock 133 MHZ
Current DRAM CLOCK 166 mhz
AGP Clock Value 66
AGP Voltage Adjust 1.5v
Dram Voltage Adjust 2.6
CPU Ratio By H/w
CPU Vcore select By H/w
i got amd athlon 2100xp+ running at 1733mhz. I wanna know whats the max speed i can overclock at Mhz and xp+? pls help and tell me what to adjust.. thank's a lot for your time.

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Originally posted by yakuza
1. I got an aida32 program and it point my processor is running at 1733mhz and max clock is 2200 mhz... current voltage 1.7. at what vcore i should be selecting so that i can clock it to 2200mhz?
select 166 fsb and not 133.
set vcore to auto
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2. I got 2 memory ram - 1 pc 2700 512mb & 1 pc 2700 256mb.
should i select fsb/dram ratio 1-1? i find my pc run better at by SPD...
yes. 1:1 is always faster aslong as the memory can keep up with the cpu.
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3. if fsb/dram ratio is by spd, my bios will show -> dram clock for ddr= 333mhz. If i select fsb/dram 1:1, my bios will show dram clock for ddr = 266mhz.. pls explain to me why?
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Advice needed regarding 865PE Neo2 FISR

I intend to order this motherboard either tomorow or Monday morning (depends if I'll find the VGA card I'm looking after). However I heard some disturbing rumors form some friends and so I thought this is the place to ask for advice:
1) which BIOS is the best to use? I heard the 1,3 BIOS causes a lot of problems regardign stability and that it had being pulled from MSI's site.. which is a lie as I can see it here!
Is anyone suing it and what's your experience with it?
Should I use the 1.2 version instead ? Because I've heard that 1.2 does not allow you to disable the auto-overclockign feature... which might causde lock-ups if I chose to fine-tune the OC myself.
2) I intend to run a RAId array . Can I boot from this array or I 'll ahve to buy a PATa disk as well?
More so... can I boot from either the INTEL controlled RAID or from the Promise RAID as well??? (because documentation on the Promise RAID controller is very thin... I'ver read the manuals and they are NOT at all informative on the matter. So I'm wondering: how do you set up the system so that it'll boot from the Promise RAIDs?? And ..is it better to boot from the Promise raids or from the ICH5R ones?
Because I think the Promise controller routs the data through the PCI so there is a theoretical limit of 133MB/s where as the ICH5R goes directly through the Northbridge chip so this is not a problem!
3) Is it true that this board has some trouble cooperationg with an ATI 9700PRo based VGA card? I've reas of a few cases of malfunctions especially in overclocked systems.
Thanks in advance for any answers.

koumooo,
I´ll give you my experience after just a couple of days with my new 865PE Neo2FIS2R board.
What I´ve found is that it´s a good Board with high potential, but also that it requires quite a bit of work to get there and fully get reveny of that potential.
However, My main interest is to get a stable system, not only with default values but with OC as well.
To be honest I don´t really care so much about PAT and DOT
since I only can reach to "Fast" and "Captain levels right now with PAT and DOT, but What was important for me was that when OC to 250FSB it was possible to lower AGP/PCI
values ( otherwise system crash) ) to 67/33 which made it possible to run a stable system at 3.01GHz and a mem.speed
at 4910 in Sisoft Sandra.
Thats good enough for me..........
Maybe I give more attention to PAT and DOT when I get high
performance mem and a High Perf. VGA card and hopefully a 1.4 bios-update.
So again, I think it´s a good board if you use it this way.

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