AGP Slot Compatibility

I own a K7T Turbo limited edition Mobo which is only version 2.0 4/2 X AGP, but I had just bought an FX5900 Ultra Graphics card b4 realising. As it is version 3.0 8/4/2X AGP, should I send it back for refund or is it possible to install and run it without causing it to explode?
Also if it is not compatible, what motherboard would you recommend me to buy given that I have an Athalon 1800+ palomino chip & no current intentions to buy CPU?
Thanks for any help

It is possible to use it without any explosions.
What good is a Racing car if you are not going to race in it?
To get value for money you need a better mobo.

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1) will this 8x card work okay on my 4x agp slot. The packaging says that the card requires a 8x compliant mainboard, but tech support say they are backward compitable to 4x agp slot. tOon newegg.com where i bought it is says it is a 4x/8x card. I am confused . my fx5900xt was a 8x card and worked on my 4x slot.
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MSI G31TM-P21 and the sapphire HD 4850 single slot compatibility issues?

Here's my specs
Antec 500 watt Earthwatts
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In this mobo there are checksum issues with this card that the 9600 GT never had. I know because after i got the first checksum, i removed the card and reinserted the 9600 GT . no checksum. switched to 4850, checksum Here was what I did to try to remedy this
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2. Removed CMOS battery for 15 minutes and reinserted, checksum
3. Upgraded BIOS from 4.1 to 4.4 via liveupdate. Still checksum but the latest BIOS feels a lot smoother
4. repeated step 2 after the BIOS update, checksum
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What issue you have
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In this mobo there are checksum issues with this card that the 9600 GT never had. I know because after i got the first checksum, i removed the card and reinserted the 9600 GT . no checksum. switched to 4850, checksum Here was what I did to try to remedy this
1. Cleared the jumper cable, checksum
2. Removed CMOS battery for 15 minutes and reinserted, checksum
3. Upgraded BIOS from 4.1 to 4.4 via liveupdate. Still checksum but the latest BIOS feels a lot smoother
4. repeated step 2 after the BIOS update, checksum
5. added a Visiontek juicebox, checksum as it's not a Power issue
I seriously doubt it's the voltage battery because it's a new mobo and i never got the checksum error on the 9600 GT.
Can someone help me please?
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1. Cleared the jumper cable, checksum
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HD4670 AGP doesn't boot on MSI K8N Neo-3 (AGR Slot)

Hello,
First of all let me say that this forum has helped me a lot when I was searching for a modified BIOS for my laptop and I've gathered a lot of useful information from here.
Now to my problem - I recently bought a used MSI K8N Neo-3 in the quest to build the "ultimate" 754+AGP slot PC.
The problem is that my HD4670 AGP doesn't work because the AGR slot doesn't support it.
Can someone please make a modified bios that supports HIS HD4670 1GB DDR3 AGP ?

That is not possible. An AGR slot is NO AGP slot. It is basically a modified PCIe slot with limited backwards compatibility with AGP. It is only used on few MSI boards and will only work with few compatible cards as it is no AGP slot as I already said. It's a technical limitation and no bios compatibility issue.
MSI didn't list a warning and compatibility list for fun:
Quote from: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K8N-Neo3.html#/?div=Detail
The AGR slot is a special design that only supports compatible AGP VGA cards. For more detailed information on compatible AGP VGA cards, please refer here
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The HD4670 on the other hand is a PCI-E gpu modified with a bridge chip to support AGP. So you have a double modification that simply can't work. Use a native PCI-E vga and be glad. As your board only supports PCI-E Gen1 prefer a Nvidia vga if going for a current card to prevent compatibility issues with AMD Gen2/3 cards.

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One AGP slot
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so whats the problem,your fine there
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=357&MODEL=MS-6593

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I have a MSI Geforce 2 MX400 T64CS model MS-8826 Ver: 2.6
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I search in the manual and the card but I didn´t find the voltage.
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I think you may find some 8x AGP cards will ONLY work in an 8x AGP slot and are not backwards compatible....
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GeForce FX5200 in a 1.5v AGP 2/4x slot?

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knytphal,
The i850 is a 4X AGP. It will work with 4X.
Take Care,
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AGP compatability

Hello there, i've got myself an MSI GF4 Ti4200 VTP 128MB from you guys and works fine in my current motherboard. However i've been looking to upgrade my PC to a P4 chip and require a new motherboard.
I took a look at a Gigabyte mobo for P4 and it has a thing called 'anti burn' to tell u if your VGA card isn't compatible (The mobo uses 1.5V AGP). I'd like to know if my GF4 card is 1.5V compatible as I can't find any info anywhere about it? Much appreciated - cheers.
Mike.

Mike,
The older cards do not even fit the new AGP Slots. The only problem was some of the old Voodoo Cards were made with the 1.5 AGP PCB, but they are all obsolete now.
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No Boot with AGP Card in Slot - 865 PE Neo2

I have tried absolutely everything.
My system will not power up when I have an AGP card in the AGP Slot. I have tried 3 different AGP 8x video cards. All with the same result -- the system fails to power up at all.
When I take the card out of the AGP slot and just power up -- everything seems to go smoothly. (not that I would know since i can't see anything) However, atleast it powers up.
This Mobo doesn't have built in video.
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Hmmm...I've posted my own message but...after reading this...I'm having the EXACT same problem. I cannot get the system to boot with any VGA card installed. If I take the card out, it boots but beeps 8 times when it gets to the video card part of the boot phase. Then it stops at some later phase (I believe the keyboard section). System specs are as follows...
Intel P4 Northwood 1.8Ghz
Gainward Powerpack Ultra 760TV/DVI (GeforceFX 5600 8X AGP)
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I don't know how to obtain other information you have asked for, such as "combined wattage". I can give you the amp ratings for the various voltages listed on the PSU...
+3.3V 28A
+5V 30A
+12V 11A
-5V .5A
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This was in a generic case we just got becuase the PSU was bad in the old one and my roommate seemed to think the button on the front of the old case could have been causing me trouble (?). Now if you are going to tell me the PSU is junk then you need to do a few things. First explain why. Tell me how to obtain the "combined watts" information and how knowing it is useful, and what it needs to be to support a system like this. Give your recommendations on reasonably priced PSUs that would provide enough power to run this system.
If a PSU can have so much to do with preventing a system from starting, why don't MOBO and VGA Card makers list more specific requirements for PSUs than "System needs at least a 300W PSU"?
I've been having problems getting a system running for months now, every since my original system shutdown one day and never started again. Since then I've been through MOBOs 2 CPUs and 2 PSUs. This is the closest I've gotten, with the system starting but the bracket lights freezing at Video Card Initalizing.

AGP Graphics card covers pci slot 2 & Problems with sound card

I have already posted this on another part of the forum.
Hi i have an M Audio Delta192 Audiophile soundcard which is not working fully
i have been on the phone to the M Audio technical support about this
my problem is apparently i need to put the pci Soundcard card into the first slot after my graphics card which would be slot no 2
my graphics card has a fan on top which covers pci slot no 2 so the next available slot is slot 3 which is where i have my soundcard now
a lot of the functions available are greyed out in the M Audio Delta control panel this is the software used to control the parameters of the soundcard
is this right do i have to install my Soundcard in slot no 2 for it to work correctly
if so is there any way around this
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if there is no way around this are there any agp cards that i can get that dont have a great big fan on top that covers pci slot 2 that are good quality & can run 2 monitors
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Hi J D Knight
I'm Pretty sure it is this is what it has under my system profiler
ATI Radeon 9800 XT:
Chipset Model: ATY,R360
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4e48
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A14404-123
this was the graphics card installed when i bought the powermac
i understand the reasons for the fan as i am led to believe it is a powerfull card
but my main use is for audio is it true about the pci slots do i need to have my soundcard in slot 2 as M-Audio have told me if so then i do need to change my graphics card so i can get my soundcard working as it should
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According to your G5 specification the ATI Radeon 9800 XT with 256MB of DDR SDRAM will work.
+(Notice that there are few models of 9800 i.e.: 9800 64MB, 9800 128MB, 9800 Pro Mac Edition, and some of them are for the older computers)+
But the fastest card for your computer is Nvidia 6800 Ultra DDL or ATI X800XT.
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http://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/100435338OB/
6800, usually is much more expensive and not easy to find.
Marek.

FX5200 AGP clarification

Hello. I have recently purchased a MSI FX5200 128 MB DDR graphics card- my first AGP card surprisingly. The card doesnt work. In fact, its not even detected by the bios.
My motherboard uses the AGP 1.0 spec (66Mhz and 133Mhz) at 3.3v only. From my reading, i was informed that an AGP 3.0 spec 8x card would be downward campatible to AGP 1.0. This doesnt seem to be the case with my card. Am i right to assume that when these comments are made, what people are actually saying is that a mobo that supports AGP 3.0 can be downgraded or auto-switched, if need be, to an AGP 1.0 or 2.0 spec, but not for a 8x card to auto-switch to 1x or 2x?
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mobo:GA-7IXE4 (bios version F9)
graphics: MSI FX5200 128 MB DDR (currently using riva tnt2)
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All Geforce FX GPUs come with AGP 8X and they are NOT expected to run on AGP 1.0 slots because of different voltages used. Even if it works, it may be unstable. However, using AGP 8X cards on 4X AGP slots doesn`t have any problems.
It`s not the AGP speed the problem, it is the voltages used...
But changing from AGP 4X to 8X has 3% performance increase, so don`t worry about speed.
Anyway, you could damage your card on a AGP 2X (1.0). In this case, buy a Geforce4 MX or Ti GPU

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Make sure the card is seated completely in the AGP slot.
You may have also loosened your system RAM while inserting the card.
Try re-seating the VGA card, then re-seating your RAM.
It could be a bad card and the only way to tell is to try another of the same model, this will tell you either the card is faulty or your configuration may be at fault.
I would contact the re-seller that sold you the card for an exchange. Additionally,
try a superstore near you that has a good return policy and see if you can find a similar or next level up model to test.
Since you don't list your hardware other than the motherboard or give prior history that is all I can tell you.

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