AGP video card installation problem. Help!!!

How in the WORLD am I going to get my AGP video card installed??? I can't get it close to the AGP slot before everything is in a bind. The power cable bundle sticks out too far, and it looks like the optical drive hangs out over the AGP slot. What did you folks do??? Please help soon. If I can't get my AIW9700Pro installed, I might as well send it back to where I bought it.
Glendor...

To get mine in I cut the ties further down the board so that I could move stuff around easier.
I was able to put 1/2 of the cables coming out of the psu over the card, the other 1/2 pressed flat against the PSU. That way it JUST fit.
Very tight squeese but Fits ok when secured.
Once the card is in the slot there is more room above the card to push the cables so it may work if you remove the PSU, fit the card then refit the PSU with the cables just above the AGP card.

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