AI CS3 - symbol position changes when editing in place?

I'm encountering a very frustrating bug with CS3 - wondering if anyone knows a workaround.
I'm working with very detailed symbols that are precisely positioned on a grid. In order to help position the symbol, I embed a rectangular guide element (the same size for each symbol) within the symbol itself, to act as the outer bounding box.
However this seems to be working against me - after painstakingly positioning a symbol in its place on the grid, if I ever need to modify the symbol via edit in place, as soon as I enter isolation mode, the symbol will jump randomly 1-10 pixels up and to the left, systematically. When I exit isolation mode, it generally stays in its new position and has to be re-moved.
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Does this happens with all symbols, or if there some element in your symbols that sets this off. Try putting a rectangle with fill & stroke of none that is slightly larger than your symbol, could even use a multiple of your grid size.
I do this for logos that are lopsided (eg: a logo with a ®) so they center perfectly when using the align command, and has worked great when making design changes to logo that would have otherwise affected their positioning

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> I wrote a program in the lab and then moved it to the production area which
> has a computer with an lcd monitor. The program has 3 arrays of clusters on
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> it to the production computer the 3 array moved somewhat
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> funny about lcd screens? Labview property node reports they are already
> aligned and of equal height. Is there a way of forcing the arrays to align
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