Ai PDF becomes distorted when printed from Google Docs

For work, I create price sheets that I save as a PDF and host them on Google docs where other coworkers can access them. When documents are printed from Google Docs, they often become distorted. Sometimes images, such as a logo in the header, will be shifted to the right and bumped down an inch or so. I can usually fix this by rasterizing the objects that are moved. Has anyone else seen this before? An idea as to why this might be happening?

This is really better suited for the Acrobat Windows support forum...
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    Wow, now THAT is scary reading...!
    If what you wrote is true then things really start looking bleak. But I can recognize some of the problems that you are mentioning although I am not into all of the details that you are writing about in your thread. But it sure looks like they just mass produce and try to keep support to a bare minimum whereas they are scoring big bucks on the media, inks and other accessories and then hope that complaints will die and people will just give up in the end.
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