AIFF & AppleLossLess

Hi,
Is AIFF better then Apple Lossless in sound quality?
If I transfr AIFF to iTunes Plus, is it better in sound quality then transfer to iTunes Plus from Apple Lossless?
Thanks.

JhnD wrote:
So AIFF is CD quality, and Apple Lossless is only near CD quality?
No. They are both sonically equivalent to a CD-quality source. Apple Lossless files are about half the size however, since they are created using lossless compression.
I'm planning to rip my songs to "AIFF or Apple Lossless" and then transfer them to 192kbps so I can load to my touch and have a copy of CD quality on my hard drive.
That is fine. Just be aware that iTunes has no particular tools to make it easy to manage two versions of each song. You can create the two versions; you can choose to manage them either as separate playlists or separate libraries; and when you add a new song you will have to manually do the same.
So which do you suggest: AIFF --> 192kbps
or Apple Lossless --> 192kbps
Those two would produce AAC files of equivalent quality.

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Thanks Edgar ,in response to your 2nd answer..........
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Why does GB screw with my recorded AIFFs?

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Having set up a GB song with the correct tempo and key, I then import the AIFF file I just made. But what's this? My clip is now in a new key (I know this because I try to play along and can't), and the tempo has changed (ditto). And, of course, none of the loops work with it, becuase my clip is now in a different key, with a different tempo. How can I make GB accept my little file just as it is?

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Hi !
Ok, me and my friend, we were having fun, jammin with logic pro 8 , and then suprisingly, I realized that I couldn't edite destructively apple loops. I learned that it was because of the .caf extention, and that compressed audio file cannot be edited destructively, then that I have to bounce then, convert them in .wav or aiff, etc ...
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My friend actually could edit the apple loops without convert them.
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is there a precess to do that.
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Hi there,
I spent a few hours on garageband simply recording some audio over the internal mic. Some of it I recorded normally, some in loop mode. Then I edited it, cut out what I didn't want and also deleted whole tracks with some audio on it. After all the editing I had around 6 tracks with mainly short audio loops in it (made from these recordings earlier on).
I then saved the project. Then quit. Then put my computer to sleep.
3 minutes later I woke it up again, opened the same file in Garageband I'd previously been working on. Then all I got were error messages telling me one after the other, that all the aiff-files from the various recordings could not be found. I tried the "search" button, but that never found anything.
I opened the file and all my loops were there in form, but the audio was not there, i.e. couldn't play any of it.
I opened the package contents of the GB file and the media folder was empty. The file's size is 1.1MB.
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Has noone else had this happen? It makes me nervous ****. I'd have to save, quit and reopen all the time to make sure the audio data is still there.
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Hey there Alphaspin,
Sorry to hear you had the same thing happen to you.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'm very happy to see someone confirm my problem. It's a first step on the way to freeing that poor little bug from GB, I'm assuming. (you hear that, Apple? Don't be too vicious with the poor thing. It's not its fault!)
As a note to various people above who were hypothesizing my failure to save the file properly.
I understand your scepticism, but think about this. If I hadn't saved the file properly (before quitting - as I remember well - or during the quitting process), why would all the loops still be shown in my tracks in the Garageband file? I don't see how that could possibly happen if the file wasn't in some way "saved".
What I see in the file I referenced in my first post, is everything exactly in the state I left it when I quit it, except for all the loops not playing because GB can't find the original aiff files in it's project file any more (because they've apparently been deleted during the quitting process).
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Help! Need to convert my songs prom AIFF to MP3

I'm trying to share songs I've created with Garage band. For some reason they are way too large (40 - 60MB) to attach to an email and send. They shouldn't be that big, they are just average sized songs. Thats the size that they each came out when I exported it from garage band to itunes. A friend recomended a program Audacity to reduce their size (or bitrate?) but I haven't a clue as to how to use it to make my songs normal size. Is there some simple way to reduce their size so that I can send them to people?
(Someone already recomended the "never-fail" method but that method requires one to convert file in the "import preferences" but I have nothing called "import preferences on either itunes or garageband.)
As you can see I know very little about this stuff but I really need to send these songs out, any bit of help would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou, Marc.

Marc,
Here are the steps to convert it from aiff to mp3 (This is iTunes version 6):
1. In GarageBand, Export your Song to iTunes. (This will create the AIFF mixdown)
2. In iTunes, go to the iTunes Preferences.
3. Click on the Advanced button along the top of the Preferences window.
4. You should see three options: General, Importing, and Burning. Click on Importing.
5. There should be a dropdown menu that says "Import Using:" Select MP3 encoder from this list.
6. Click OK
7. Go back into your iTunes Library and highlight the AIFF file that you imported from GarageBand.
8. From the Advanced menu, select Convert Selection to MP3.
9. Now you have an MP3 file of your GarageBand song that should be able to be emailed and shared.
Let me know if everything works.

How can I tell if an audio clip is .m4a or .aiff?

I have some audio clips in a song that I dragged/dropped a few weeks ago and I cannot remember if they were rendered as m4a or aiff. I tried clicking on the clip itself but I see no option for "get info" or anything like that. I also tried using the finder which does tell you, but unfortunately I used the same title about ten other times so that won't work in this case.

Did you try my suggestion?
WH
Yes, and it presents the same dilemma as the finder option since I have multiple files with the exact same title. Example: My song has an audio clip titled "Leah" because that is the name of the girl I recorded on that track. Unfortunately I used that title six different times. So if I use Finder or your suggestion, I type in "Leah", and it gives me all 5 files, all the exact same music and duration and I have no idea which one is the one being used in my song.The only way to know for sure is to do this from within GB, and I cannot believe there isn't an option for this. Thanks for offering to help though.

HELP!-I NEED A LOUDER AIFF!

are there any programs that boost the master volume of an AIFF file?
i've finished an album i've been working on in my bedroom with garageband and my blue snowball microphone. i've mastered it so none of the tracks "clip" and go into the red during the loud parts...when i export the songs to itunes it's significantly quieter than other recorded music.
i don't know how to make the AIFF file as loud as normal recorded music. here's what a tried though:
i cranked the master volume in the garageband file. almost the whole time it's "clipping" and in the red, but when i export that to itunes nothing sounds distorted or different at all to me. what is it suppoed to sound like when it's "clipping"?
i'm sending the full album to a CD duplication company to make 1000 copies...i'm wondering if the AIFF files that have been cranked up and sound great (even though it shows constant "clipping" in the garageband file) will sound distorted and low quality in the 1000 copied cds.
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i've mastered it
What you've done is not Mastering. search the web for "Mixing and Mastering", it is a rather complex topic (books are written on Mastering alone), but getting some background may help.
i don't know how to make the AIFF file as loud as
normal recorded music.
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#commercialcdquality
what is it suppoed to sound like when it's "clipping"?
I don't know if it's the best description, but I guess kind of crackling.
As a sidenote, I worked with a guitarist who, even when the horribly clipped sections were pointed out, could not hear the problem.
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Can you use iTunes match and not get duplicates if you maintain mp3s and aiffs files of the same song in either the same or separate libraries?

I maintain a collection of aiff files and mp3 files of the same music.
Aiff for home listening and Mp3 for my devices.
I can arrange these in the same or seperate libraires.
Will "itunes match" duplicate the songs in the cloud if they in the same or seperate libraies on the same mac?
If not, is anyone aware of how to manage seperate Mp3 and Aiff libraries so as not to get duplicates in itune match?
All assistance is appreciated.
Thanks!

Hello mracole,
I checked my "purchases" and the 7/19/13 purchases don't show up. However, the earlier versions from usually several years back...the ones that are Matched...often do show up in my Purchases. I suspect that somehow those REALLY purchased several year old versions were deleted and redownloaded by me so I could change them to the 256 kbps versions under iTunes Match. They were probably 128 kbps versions originally when purchased.
Why the earlier versions that were really purchased are now identified as Matched is puzzling.
Why I now have Purchased versions from 7/19/13 is puzzling too...especially since these versions do NOT show up in my purchases.
Calling Apple Support if a good idea unless someone can explain this mystery. I might even take one of my laptops to the Apple store and show a Genius.
Thank you very much for taking the time to respond, Mr. Luigi

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AS Above. Edited in FCPX. Excellent sound file. Using Compressor 4 to DVD Studio 4. Wanting AIFF or WAVE sound for acurate sound.
Previously DVD Studio 4 has accepted AIFF etc and delivered sound as reuired. Now, during the burn process everything other than ac3 is declined as 'video bit rate too high', but will burn if the AIFF format is replaced with ac3 (which I presume meanss the 'video bit rate too high' is referring to the sound file)
The issue with ac3 format is the huge reduction in original volume and worse, the 'auto volume levelling' that makes a nonsense of the original soundtrack - with simply aweful unwanted variations in volume Throughout the the dvd.
I have tried everything I can think of to get around this. The 'volume gain' in compressor doesn't make any difference. Exporting just AIFF and the Video to DVD 4 doesn't make any difference, it always declines anything but the aweful sound ac3 delivers.
I have customers awaiting a musci DVD, not with thei quality I can't.
Cheers
Phil

The total video bit rate is determined by audio & video. Depending on what rate your video file was encoded at will determine how much room is left for audio. PCM(aiff/wav) audio requires a bigger piece of the pie. Video bit rate too high means your overall(video+audio) rate is going above 9Mbps which the format won't allow. The only way to use aiff would be to lower your video file's data rate. The length of your program is also a factor in all of this.
I had some problems in the past with using aiff instead ac3. Although there shouldn't be any issue I experienced playback issues on some players that couldn't be explained but were cleared up by ac3. I have been using the same specs as Dave's suggestion for almost nine years and have not had any issues with mix, quality, or levels.

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