Air Port Express Joining a non-Apple Wireless N Network

So, I've been using my AEn router for some time now to join my wireless G network for iTunes and to use the ethernet port.
Decided to buy a Linksys Wireless N Dual Band router to replace my older wireless G router.
Much to my surprise and disappointment, AEn can only join an existing B/G wireless network.
Anyone heard if Apple is going to open this up to allow joining a wireless N network with a firmware update?

My Express will only 'join' my Netgear WNDR3700's 2.4ghz 'N' band. Within seconds after joining the 5ghz band it loses link. See if your Netgear's log shows "WLAN access rejected: incorrect security", as mine does. Mind you, I've matched the security settings on the AE with the Netgear a number of times. My MB Pro is at a farther distance than the AE yet has a full signal to the 5ghz band. FYI there are no cordless phones in my house and there are no other known 5ghz networks close to my house.
Berni81 wrote:
Hi Boys,
I have the same setup with my new Netgear WNDR3700 (replaces my good old WRT45G) with the AEn as client. the netgear gives me 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz 802.11n networks. i can connect the AE to both and brigde the LAN port and listen musik over analog audio connection. The only thing what drives me crazy is i need optical out, and this only work well when the AE is connected to the bgn 2.4GHz WLAN. it stops working and doing reboots if i start to play musik from itunes.
with the bgn connection it shows me a rate of 54, so no 802.11n speeds (distance AP-AE 5m sight)
maybe we have to wait for final 802.11n firmwares?
is their anybody who has the same issue with other nAPs and the AE?
best regards
Berni

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