Aironet 1300 Point to Point Bridging

Hi, I am new to the forums so please accept my apologises if this is really easy question!!
We have purchsed 2 Aironet 1300's that we are wanting to use to create a bridge, but after hours of trying and net searching we cannot get them to talk to each other. Can anyone please help? Thanks

Here's the online config guide:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_configuration_example09186a008058f53e.shtml
Here's the Point-to-Point Troubleshooting FAQ:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps2360/products_qanda_item09186a00801d29ff.shtml
Wireless Point-to-point Troubleshooting Guide:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps2360/products_tech_note09186a00801d2a0c.shtml
Sample Config and Command Guide:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/cable/ps2217/products_configuration_example09186a0080193dac.shtml
Other possible issues are to make sure you have solid line-of-site ("more than you think you need" because of some properties associated with the "Freznel Zone")
Check it out and let us know if you are still having problems.
Good Luck
Scott

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Image Recovery for Cisco Aironet 1300 Outdoor Access Point

We purchased two 1300 APs for outside. There is a new release for the image that we wanted to use so, we have the latest security updates. We downloaded, logged onto the access point just fine, but the image never took. After four hours with a direct connection, it was still going and this morning we came in and it just keep rebooting. Our network guy states it looks like a corrupt image. We can barely do anything and since there is no "mode" button like the earlier models, I have not found anything on web sites or forums to help us reload a good image to the access point. I would appreciate any insight someone has and/or where to look for this. I logged on and downloaded about every manual on the 1300 I could find, but have not found a good way to fix this. Not even the upgrade tool will connect since it just keeps rebooting.

Hi Bruce,
Because (as you correctly noted) the 1300 does not have a mode button you could try this method;
Complete the steps in this section in order to reset Cisco IOS Software-based bridges:
If the privileged command prompt ap# is available in the CLI, the write erase command and the reload command erase the startup configuration and reset the unit.
If the GUI is available, choose System Software > System Configuration. Press the Reset to Defaults button.
Aironet 1300 Series Bridges do not have a MODE button to reset the AP to factory defaults. So, if neither the GUI or CLI is available with sufficient privileges, complete these steps to delete the current configuration and return the entire bridge settings to the factory defaults using the CLI.
Open the CLI with a Telnet session or a connection to the bridge console port.
Reboot the bridge by removing and reapplying power.
Allow the bridge to boot until the command prompt appears and the bridge begins to inflate the image.
Press ESC when you see lines that are similar to these on the CLI:
Loading "flash:/c1310-k9kw-7mx.v122_15_ja.200040314-k9w7-mx.v122_15_ja.20040314"
...#############################################################################Note: In order to access the boot loader, you must press ESC twice. But this action depends on the terminal-emulation software that you use.
Messages that are similar to these appear:
Error loading "flash:/c1310-k9kw-7mx.v122_15_ja.200040314-k9w7-mx.v122_15_
ja.20040314"
Interrupt within 5 seconds to abort boot process.
Boot process terminated.
The system is unable to boot automatically. The BOOT environment variable needs to
be set to a bootable image.
C1310 Boot Loader (C1310-BOOT-M), Version 12.2 [BLD-v122_15-ja_throttle.20040314 100]
bridge:At the bridge: prompt, issue the dir flash: command in order to view a directory of the Flash file system.
The directory is similar to this directory:
bridge: dir flash:
Directory of flash:/
2 -rwx 0 env_vars
5 drwx 384 C1310-k9w7-mx.v133_15_JA.20040314
3 -rwx 1128 config.txt
4 -rwx 5 private-config
3693568 bytes available (4047872 bytes used)
bridge:Delete or rename the files config.txt and env_vars, and reboot the bridge.
Note: Do not forget the / character before the filenames.
bridge: delete flash:config.txt
Are you sure you want to delete flash:/config.txt (y/n)?y
File "flash:/config.txt" deleted
bridge: delete flash:/env_vars
Are you sure you want to delete "flash:/env_vars" (y/n)?y
File "flash:/env_vars" deletedIssue the boot command in order to reboot the bridge at the bridge: prompt, or simply power cycle the bridge.
After the bridge reboots, reconfigure the bridge with the web browser interface, the Telnet interface, or Cisco IOS Software commands.
Note: The bridge is configured with the factory default values that include:
The IP address, which is set to receive an IP address with DHCP. If you do not have a DHCP server, you can access the bridge using the default IP address of 10.0.0.1 using HTTP/HTTPS or Telnet. Once you gain access to the bridge via Telnet or GUI, you can modify the IP address of the bridge.
Note: This default IP address of 10.0.0.1 becomes available only for a short period. So, make sure that you assign your own IP address to the bridge within that period of time.
The default username and password, "Cisco".
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps430/products_password_recovery09186a00800949d0.shtml#ca_1310_ser
One other thing, be careful with the new IOS that you aren't loading a LWAPP Recovery Image. (it almost sounds like what may have happened)
Hope this helps!
Rob

Can Aironet 1300 Series configure as Bridges and AP in the same time?

I need to configure another Briding End point to be Access point too. Is it possible?

Yes, 1300 supports a feature called Link Role flexibility which enables each radio in this bridge to act in different role.

1300 Series Access Point/Bridge Power Injector - Using power over ethernet

Can I use power over ethernet to supply the Injector with power?

Hi Mikael,
Sorry, this will not work. Have a look at these specs;
1300 Series Power
Power
The access point/bridge receives inline power from the Cisco Aironet Power Injector (hereafter called the power injector). Dual-coax cables are used to provide Ethernet data and power from the power injector to the access point/bridge. The power injector is an external unit designed for operation in a sheltered environment, such as inside a building or vehicle. The power injector also functions as an Ethernet repeater by connecting to a Category 5 LAN backbone and using the dual-coax cable interface to the access point/bridge.
The power injector is available in two models:
Cisco Aironet Power Injector LR2 standard version (included with the access point/bridge)
48-VDC input power
Uses the 48-VDC power module (included with the access point/bridge)
Cisco Aironet Power Injector LR2T optional transportation version
12- to 40-VDC input power
Note The power injector and the power module must not be placed in an outdoor unprotected environment. The power module must not be placed in a building's environmental air space, such as above a suspended ceiling.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_installation_guide_chapter09186a008079b93b.html#wp1051840
Dual coaxial cable to run from the power injector to the 1300. See attached notes:
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Access Point/Bridge Power Injector
The Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Power Injector,converts the standard 10/100 BaseT Ethernet interface that is suitable for weather protected areas to a dual F-Type connector interface for coax cables that are more suitable for harsh outdoor environments. The Power Injector also provides power to the outdoor unit over the same cables with a power discover feature and surge protection. To support longer cable runs from your wireless network switch or router, the Power Injector LR is designed to accommodate up to a 100 meter coaxial cable run plus 100 meters of indoor cat5 cable?enabling total cable runs up to 200 meters. The Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge ships with the Power Injector LR2 and an AC power supply.
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a008022551d.html
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Hardware Installation Guide
Ethernet Ports
The access point/bridge dual-coax Ethernet ports consists of a pair of 75-ohm F-type connectors, linking the unit to your 100BASE-T Ethernet LAN through the power injector. The dual-coax cables are used to send and receive Ethernet data and to supply inline 48-VDC power from the power injector to the access point/bridge.
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_installation_guide_book09186a00804d3095.html
AIR-PWRINJ-BLR2
F-Type Connectors
Dual coaxial cable carries full-duplex Ethernet, DC power, and full-duplex console port (RS-232 connection)
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a00802252e1.html
Hope this helps!
Rob

1300's in Secure point to point deployment

I'm looking to recommend to deploy pairs of aironet 1300's as point to point bridges in multiple sites, but need some assistance on the limits of the security functionality. I need an absolutely/uncrackable secure way for the 1300's to authenticate/encrypt to each other and disallow all other radio connections. All the examples I found so far dont address the point to point model in necessary depth security wise. Any pointers here ??
thanks
Martyn Beck

Couple of options, you can use WPA + TKIP or AES which is pretty secure and doesn't rely on any external auth servers. Another alternative is to use the built in radius server on the bridges. Top line security would use an external radius server (assuming you can do so). As to it being absolutely uncrackable, there isn't any such thing! : ) By the way, forget MAC security, it isn't worth the bother and doesn't add much to the security of the setup.

Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Power

Can the 1310ap receive it's power from a POE switch?

Hi Edward,
Sadly the 1310 cannot be powered by PoE ,but, the Power Injector can be up to 100 meters away from the unit.
Dual coaxial cable to run from the power injector to the 1300. See attached notes:
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Access Point/Bridge Power Injector
The Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Power Injector,converts the standard 10/100 BaseT Ethernet interface that is suitable for weather protected areas to a dual F-Type connector interface for coax cables that are more suitable for harsh outdoor environments. The Power Injector also provides power to the outdoor unit over the same cables with a power discover feature and surge protection. To support longer cable runs from your wireless network switch or router, the Power Injector LR is designed to accommodate up to a 100 meter coaxial cable run plus 100 meters of indoor cat5 cable?enabling total cable runs up to 200 meters. The Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge ships with the Power Injector LR2 and an AC power supply.
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a008022551d.html
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Hardware Installation Guide
Ethernet Ports
The access point/bridge dual-coax Ethernet ports consists of a pair of 75-ohm F-type connectors, linking the unit to your 100BASE-T Ethernet LAN through the power injector. The dual-coax cables are used to send and receive Ethernet data and to supply inline 48-VDC power from the power injector to the access point/bridge.
Power
The access point/bridge receives inline power from the Cisco Aironet Power Injector (hereafter called the power injector). Dual-coax cables are used to provide Ethernet data and power from the power injector to the access point/bridge. The power injector is an external unit designed for operation in a sheltered environment, such as inside a building or vehicle. The power injector also functions as an Ethernet repeater by connecting to a Category 5 LAN backbone and using the dual-coax cable interface to the access point/bridge.
AIR-PWRINJ-BLR2
F-Type Connectors
Dual coaxial cable carries full-duplex Ethernet, DC power, and full-duplex console port (RS-232 connection)
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a00802252e1.html
Hope this helps!
Rob

Link Budget for Aironet 1550EU point-to-multipoint bridge

We have six remote building near our main office. Is it possible to use a single Aironet 1550EU as the root bridge for point-to-multipoint links to six Aironet 1530E on each building? The datasheet for Aironet 1550EU states that it support three 5Ghz antenna and three 2.4 Ghz antenna.
The remote buildings are within 1 km radius of the main building with LOS. We are using the following link budget for our calculation. Our target bandwidth is 24 Mbps. Please correct me if my number is incorrect. I am quite new to wireless network.
Regulatory Domain: America
Link Margin: 5 dBm
Cable link loss: 2 dBm
Antenna Gain for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz links: 13 dBi Patch Antenna
Max Tx Power of 1550EU for 802.11g and 802.11a with 13 dBi antenna : 20 dBm (smallest Max Tx power on channels)
Rx Sensitivity of 1550EU and 1530E for 802.11a and 802.11g @ 24 Mbps: -81dBm
Max Range for 5 Ghz @ 24 Mbps = 4.78 km
Max Range for 2.4 Ghz @ 24 Mbps = 9.95 km
I am using the formula on this page. The result is very similar to Bridge Range Calculator from Cisco. Is my calculation correct?
Thanks
Reference:
Aironet 1530 Data Sheet: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/aironet-1530-series/data_sheet_c78-728356.html
Aironet 1550 Data Sheet: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/aironet-1550-series/data_sheet_c78-641373.html
Aironet 1550 Max Tx Pwr: http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/wireless/access_point/channels/lwapp/reference/guide/1550pwr_chn_7dot3.pdf

I was going to have the same concern as you about using the 1232 for both bridging and client serving. Tying a bridge and an AP back to back is a valid configuration from what I have heard. I haven't had the opportunity to try it, though. I know that Cisco says tying 2 bridges back to back to serve as an intermediate bridge hop is a valid configuration, so I don't see why this would be any different.

Aironet 1400 Point to Multipoint Bridging

Hello Everybody
I`m already desinging a Wireless Point to Multipoint Bridging with Aironet 1400. I was Wondering if on the Central point the 1400 should has a external omnidireccional anntena to support all the others bridges... that is: this AP will be the multipoint bridge.
Could I use all the 1400 AP with integrated anntenas and get that the Central AP work in a multipoint configuration?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
Cisco Aironet 1400 has a model with integrated 22.5 dBi patch array antenna, the AIR-BR1410A-A-K9.
The integrated radio and high-gain integrated patch array antenna is used in point-to-point links and the non-root nodes of point-to-multipoint networks.
You can (need to) use the external omnidirectional AIR-ANT58G9VOA-N antenna type for your N-type root bridge unit (AIR-BR1410A-A-K9-N).
Basically, these models are ideal for each other in both point-to-point & point-to-multipoint connectivity scenarios.
Cisco 1400 N-type is recommended to use the following external antenna type:
* 9.0 dBi vertically polarized omni antenna --> you need this
* 9.5 dBi sector antenna with support for vertical or horizontal linear polarization
* 28.0 dBi dish antenna with support for vertical or horizontal linear polarization
ref: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/wireless/ps5279/products_data_sheet09186a008018495c.html
Aironet 1400 Bridge Ref:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/wireless/ps5279/prod_technical_reference09186a0080184933.html
Rgds,
AK

Building to building Bridge link using Aironet 1300's

We have a requirement to link two adjacent buildings that are about 20-metres apart over a public road. I need some advice on what the best solution will be.
Initial thoughts are a pair of Aironet 1300's configured as Wireless Bridges but the antenna type and where to mount them is confusing me. Will the internal patch antennas be enough for this or will we need external antennas? If so what type - directional or? Do the AP's need to be mounted externally or can we simply mount them internally facing each other through windows? What do we need to be aware of regards signal overlaps and interference etc?
What looked like a simple setup seems to have opened a can of worms....
Thanks
Andy

Hi Andy,
The 20m distance is quite short.
In this case, as recommended by Cisco*, for AP1300 series, you can use the AIR-ANT2410Y-R antenna. This directional antenna can be used/installed indoor or outdoor.
Approximate Indoor Range at 6 Mbps : 548 ft (167 m)
Approximate Indoor Range at 54 Mbps: 165 ft (50 m)
*http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a008022198b.html
Look under 'Table 4. Antennas for the Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge with RP-TNC Type Connector'.
Both AP1300 and the antenna can be installed indoor. You need to wall-mount the antenna facing each other from each building.
Since the distance is only 20m, you can play around with the transit power to control the signal distance.
As for overlapping channel & probability of interference, do a simple site survey (can use freeware NetStumbler) and make sure your antenna does not mounted near equipment like microwave, or any equipment that produced high frequency noise.
Hope this helps.
Rgds,
AK

Secure Wireless Site to Site Bridge - Aironet 1300 or 1252?

Hi there,
We're planning to connect a building no more than 50m away to our network via wireless (after careful research. The builing will only house 2 people, one requiring just internet and email access for ordering materials, the other will be doing document scanning - currently scanning files of roughly 15Mb every 3-5 minutes to an SQL server in the main building. They will also need to retrieve similarly sized files from said server within the same timescale. The solution would need to offer WPA2 security and a hidden SSID.
I have been pointed in the direction of the Aironet 1100 which now appears to be discontinued, so the Aironet 1300 was suggested instead. Will this 54g device be sufficient for the activities above and if so, I guess I will just need to configure each unit as a bridge (1 per building?)
I have also been looking into N type devices and found the Aironet 1252 but I believe that this is an internal device? I have the facility to locate it by a window/ very close to the outside of the building on both sites but not sure if this would be cost effective. Am I right in thinking the 1252 would require me to purchase additional antenna to go with it? If so, what type would be suitable as there are several listed on the site.
Finally. I'd like the solution we go with to be expandable (if it allows) as another building within the same area is also being looked at and would benefit from having a similar connection to it. Whether the bridging would allow for this, or another 2 units would need to be purchased is something I am unsure of.
I'd really appreciate some feedback from someone with experience of both units or experience in setting up a similar configuration as I am quite new to this side of wireless
I have included a basic Visio diagram of my proposed configuration; I hope it is of some use.
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
the 1310 will offer sufficient throughput. But if you add buildings, maybe you will start reaching the limit ...
The problem with the 1250 is that it's not meant to go outdoor as it is, apart from that it's perfect for the job.
The type of antennas strongly depend on the location of the building.
If the 3 buildings are in a line with the main building in the center, you will need an omnidirectional antenna. The point is that your bridges should all hear each other, so their coverage zone should include all other bridges. Then it's possible to have one AP at each site, the main site AP being "root" and the other being "non-root". If too hard, you could also go with 2 APs at the central site and then you can go with directionnal antenna toward each building.
And the 1310 can come either with an internal antenna that is very directionnal or with external antennas connector. The 1250 is always for external antennas.
Note also that the 1250 requires a bit more power than normal PoE allows.
I hope this helps,
Regards,
Nicolas
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Security on Aironet 1300 bridges

I am a newbie on this fourm. I required your suggestions and recommendations. I have aironet 1300 bridges. I want to connect them in point to multipoint envt.
I want to have one root bridge and rest as non root bridges. But i want to implement authentication of non-root bridges through root bridge. Please suggest what is the latest and strongest authentication and security protocols that i can use. Please i am looking for an early response.

EAP Authentication type provides the highest level of security for your wireless network. By using the Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) to interact with an EAP-compatible RADIUS server, the root access point/bridge helps another access point/bridge and the RADIUS server to perform mutual authentication and derive a dynamic unicast WEP key. The RADIUS server sends the WEP key to the root access point/bridge, which uses it for all unicast data signals that it sends to or receives from the non-root access point/bridge. The root access point/bridge also encrypts its broadcast WEP key (entered in the access point/bridge's WEP key slot 1) with the non-root access point/bridge's unicast key and sends it to the non-root access point/bridge.

Aironet 1300 Bridge and AP simultaneously

Hello Everybody I`ll like to use the Aironet 1300 in a Bridge and AP operation simultaneously and I`ll use a Omnidirectional Antenna ANT-2506 to cover clientes. The question is if in this design the non root AP/bridge operate like repeaters and what about the Bandwith. does this anntena work for a AP application? What is the coverage with this anntena for clients and others bridges.
My scenario is a Root 1300 with Antenna ANT-2506 for clients and bridges and 5 1300 (non root) with Antenna ANT-2506 for clients and bridges.
Thanks in advance!

The flexibility of the Cisco Aironet 1300 Series allows it to operate asa wireless bridge, access point, or a workgroup bridge.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00804158b6.html

Aironet 1300 Bridges

I have a question on Point-to-Multipoint Bridging for aironet 1300's.
Here is the setup that I have:
I have three mobile units that I need to connect to eachother.
Each unit has a 1300 series bridge in it, one set as a root, the other 2 as non-root.
The computers that are in each unit are setup in a Workgroup, there are 6 computers in each unit.
Can anyone give me an configuration example or point me to an page for a point-to-multipoint setup for the Bridges? I can find point-to-point but nothing else. Or is that the same setup, just worded differently?
thanks
--Jon

Hi,
Q1 >> two must be non-root and one a root bridge? For the three units to talk to each other, does there have to be any specific settings or not?
ANS >> NO. We need to make sure the configuration is exactly same on all the 3 devices, only difference is the station role.. that is..
on the ROOT bridge the radio station role should be "Root bridge"
on the Non-ROOT 1 bridge the radio station role should be "Non-Root bridge"
on the Non-ROOT 2 bridge the radio station role should be "Non-Root bridge"
Q2 >> Also, I will not have any internet connections or functionallity, they will be unit to unit communications only. Will this create a problem in the root bridge then?
ANS - NO, there will not be any issue in the Root bridge.. the traffic will flow between the bridges without any problem.
lemme know if this answered your question..
Regards
Surendra
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Air Bridge 1310 - Configuring QOS on Point to Point

I have 2 BR1310 Air Bridge's configured for a point to point connection, one is root,one is non-root. In configuring QOS for VOIP for the first time, I'm looking for a best practice configuration.
Behind each bridge is a 3560 switch that has QOS configured on each switchport. Our environment consists of 7960 desk phones.

Hi Michael,
Have a look at these docs. Hopefully they will help get you started;
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Software Configuration Guide, 12.3(4) JA
Chapter 14 - Configuring QoS
This chapter describes how to configure quality of service (QoS) on your access point/bridge. With this feature, you can provide preferential treatment to certain traffic at the expense of others. Without QoS, the access point/bridge offers best-effort service to each packet, regardless of the packet contents or size. It sends the packets without any assurance of reliability, delay bounds, or throughput.
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1300/12.3_4_JA/configuration/guide/o13qos.html
Giving Priority to Voice Traffic
This section demonstrates how you can apply a QoS policy to your wireless network's voice VLAN to give priority to wireless phone traffic.
In this example, the network administrator creates a policy named voice_policy that applies voice class of service to traffic from Spectralink phones (protocol 119 packets). The user applies the voice_policy to the incoming and outgoing radio ports and to the outgoing Ethernet port for VLAN 77.
Use the Apply Policies to Interface/VLANs drop-down menus to apply policies to the access point Ethernet and radio ports. If VLANs are configured on the access point, drop-down menus for each VLANs' virtual ports appear in this section. If VLANs are not configured on the access point, drop-down menus for each interface appear.
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1300/12.3_4_JA/configuration/guide/o13qos.html#wp1047736
Hope this helps!
Rob

Bandwith on a Point-to-Multipoint Bridges

Hello everybody..
I`m already designing a point-to-multipoint bridging with Aironet 1300. On the central site I have a omnidirectional antenna and on the remote site integrated antenna. The question is: How much bandwith could I get if my topology is 1 central site a 5 remotes sites?
Does the 54Mbps bandiwith is share between 5 point or does each one could get 54 Mbps.?
Thanks in advance...

Hi Edgar,
Have a look at the following excerpt;
Point-to-Multipoint Bridging
In a point-to-multipoint configuration, two or more non-root bridges associate to a root bridge. Up to 17 non-root bridges can associate to a root bridge, but the non-root bridges must share the available bandwidth.
From this doc;
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/ Bridge
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008021e5ca.html#wp1034650
Hope this helps!
Rob
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