Aironet 1310 Antenna

I am currently designing a wireless solution for a new building on campus. Our goal is to provide coverage to wireless clients via rooftop mounted AP's (specifically 1310's). We have 3 patio areas on 3 different sides of the building and I figured on 3 sepearate AP's (one for each patio area). My question is, what antenna will provide me with the coverage needed to cover each patio area which measure approx
50 X 150 ft in size. I know this is a tough question without being on site but I was hoping for some direction. I already tried the AIR-ANT1729 and it did not suffice. Thanks for the help!

Hey Jeremy,
Sounds like a great project! Here are some additional docs that may help you on your way. On our Campus we have not provided any outdoor coverage so I'm curious to see how this works out for you.Also here is a reference for the 1728, you are correct that it is an indoor antenna.
AIR-ANT1728
Omnidirectional
Ceiling-mount indoor antenna with RP-TNC connector-This antenna was designed for WLAN applications with frequencies of 2400-2500 MHz. The antenna is omni directional and has a nominal gain of 5.2dBi. It comes with a clip that allows it to be mounted to a drop-ceiling cross member.
The following antennas can be used with the Cisco Aironet 1300 Series:
AIR-ANT25065.2dBi omnidirectional mast mount
AIR-ANT2412012dBi omnidirectional mast mount
AIR-ANT194913.5dBi Yagi
AIR-ANT2410Y-R10dBi Yagi
AIR-ANT333821dBi dish
AIR-ANT2414S-R14dBi sector
AIR-ANT17296 dBi patch
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/ps5861/products_qanda_item09186a0080221971.shtml
Cisco Aironet Antenna Reference Guide
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps469/products_data_sheet09186a008008883b.html
Cisco Aironet 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Antennas and Accessories
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps469/products_data_sheet09186a008022b11b.html
I might also talk to your Cisco SE regarding the possibility of obtaining each of these antennas on a temporary basis for the purpose of testing. Cisco does have a program called something like "demo depot" for just this type of scenario.
Hope this helps!
Rob
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Aironet 1310 Antenna question

Hello,
ive got a question about the antenna of the aironet 1310. is there any difference between AIR-BR1310G-E-K9 and AIR-BR1310G-E-K9-R in basic configuration?
we had a bridge between 2 AIR-BR1310G-E-K9. but the non-root bridge went broken due its age. (connector pin was broken and couldnt get it out)
we had an AIR-BR1310G-E-K9-R on spare, so we only replaced the antenna but we coulnd not get a connection between the 2. diddnt change to power injector or config.
after som fiddling with the broken antenna we managed to get the pin out. changed the wire between the antenna and power injector and placed it back. and it worked like a charm.
so does anyone has an awnser for me? add 2 pictures. the only difference i can see are the 2 extra ports on the K9-R.
AIR-BR1310G-E-K9
http://i50.tinypic.com/uy4bn.jpg
AIR-BR1310G-E-K9-R
http://i49.tinypic.com/fwlfzo.jpg

The 'R' at the end is supposed to specify that it's the model with RP-TNC connectors for an external antenna. The model without the R should have an internal antenna.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5679/ps5861/product_data_sheet09186a008022198b.html

CISCO aironet 1310 integrated antenna poor range

Hi
I am in Canada
I am trying to configure an AIRONET 1310 with INTEGRATED antenna
to work as an access point for clients on a campground
The range I get is awfull (50 feet and I loose the signal completly)
the aironet is outside and no tree are blocking it.
I configured it all by default exept :
-- in network interfaces : Radio0-802.11G Setting
-- I changed DATA RATES from Default to Best Range

Hi,
1300 Integrated antenna model comes with a Vertically polarized 13dBi gain antenna. The beam width is 36Â° E-plane by 38Â° H-plane.
Following is the range -
Americas
â¢ 865 feet (260 meters) at 54 Mbps
â¢ 3465 feet (1055 meters) at 11 Mbps
ETSI
â¢ 150 feet (45 meters) at 54 Mbps
â¢ 775 feet (235 meters) at 11 Mbps
TELEC
â¢ 485 feet (145 meters) at 54 Mbps
â¢ 1095 feet (330 meters) at 11 Mbps
So the range what you are getting is way too low.
Please check the orientation of the AP, the antenna is Vertically Polarized.
So the AP should be mounted vertically.
Second make a note at the beamwidth 36Â° E-plane by 38Â° H-plane. Make sure that all your clients are only in this coverage area. If its an open area and you want coverage for client overall the area probably I won't go with this AP being a sector antenna not providing coverage in all 360Â° H-Plane.
HTH
-> Sushil

Two TNC connectors on Aironet 1310 for external antennas

Hi All,
I have been checking the "Cisco Systems Aironet 1310 Intallation" manuals, and have noticed that the external antenna model has connectors for two antennas.
My question is if this device could be used as repetitor (logically splitting the signal between the two antennas)?
I will appreciate any comments.
Best Regards,
Igor Sotelo.

Although you can't fit two antenna to service two connections you might be able to get it to work with a single omni on the "relay" station so it can "see" both the remote stations. I've used this setup before and sometimes you can route traffic end to end, sometimes not. A certain solution would be 2 x 1310 at the central point connected with a cross lead. That way you are running two separate bridge connections and everything will work just fine, needs another bridge though : (

Aironet 1310 Bridges keep losing connection

There was a similar thread about this last year and I tried what was listed in there to no avail. I have 2 Aironet 1310 bridges, one as a route bridge and the second as a non-route with clients. These worked great for nearly a year, we had no problems keeping the connection up. They were not connected for the last few months but nothing was changed on the configuration, when I put them back up they reconnected just fine and worked for about an hour, not they randomly disconnect with the same message in the log entries below. Is there something wrong with them now? The are using the same antennas as before and are in the same exact locations.
logs from root bridge
Nov 29 13:52:53.311: %DOT11-4-MAXRETRIES: Packet to client XXXX.XXXX.XXXX reached max retries, removing the client
Nov 29 13:52:53.311: %DOT11-6-DISASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, Deauthenticating Station XXXX.XXXX.XXXX Reason: Previous authentication no longer valid
Nov 29 13:52:53.568: %DOT11-6-ASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, Station Test XXX.XXXX.XXXX Reassociated KEY_MGMT[WPAv2 PSK]
Nov 29 13:55:16.260: %DOT11-4-MAXRETRIES: Packet to client XXXX.XXXX.XXXX reached max retries, removing the client
Nov 29 13:55:16.260: %DOT11-6-DISASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, Deauthenticating Station XXXX.XXXX.XXXX Reason: Previous authentication no longer valid
Nov 29 13:55:16.550: %DOT11-4-MAXRETRIES: Packet to client XXXX.XXXX.XXXX reached max retries, removing the client
Nov 29 13:55:16.550: Client XXXX.XXXX.XXXX failed: reached maximum retries
logs from non-root
Nov 29 2010 13:52:55: %DOT11-4-UPLINK_DOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, parent lost: Received deauthenticate (2) not valid
Nov 29 2010 13:52:55: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down

I am not at the remote location any more, but the route bridge had a signal of -78 dB and a SNR of -22 dB. The non-route has -77dB for signal and a SNR of -22 dB. The location has line of sight, over water with nothing in the way.
Since I last posted I changed the fragmentation and RTS thresholds back to default from 4000 and it has been up for 24 hours now. I am hoping that it has made the difference.

Configuration of a Point to MultiPoint link with Cisco Aironet 1310 bridges

Hi All,
The previous problem of which I started another conversation here:
http://forum.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/NetProf?page=netprof&forum=Wireless%20-%20Mobility&topic=General&CommCmd=MB%3Fcmd%3Ddisplay_location%26location%3D.1ddba023
somehow dissapeared. It could have been a problem of interferences.
I have another issue with other (multipoint) wireless WAN link, which I hope has a solution.
On the central node, we have an Cisco Aironet 1310 bridge configured as root-bridge. It has a panel of four vertical polarity 17 dBi panel 90? antennas, with more than enough gain (there is a 250 mWatts 802.11 b/g amplifier, before the 4-way splitter) and excellent line of sight to three remote bridges.
The three (03) remote bridges are also Aironet 1310 models, confidured as non-root-bridges.
The problem we have is that it seems that when the three remote links operate concurrently the amount of lost packets is huge. When I shutdown the radio interfaces of two bridges, the remaining bridge makes an excellent link with the central node.
It seems that some hours are more critical than others, also the links operate much worse when there is some (small) network traffic in them.
I have read the 1310 manuals, and I can't find a sample configuration for point to multi-point links.
Does someone knows what radio interface configuration should I need to use to establish better quality communication?
I mean, perhaps the 1 x root - 3 x no root configuration is not recommendable for the multipoint link configuration.
Any hints will be welcome.
Best Regards,
Igor Sotelo.

Hi All,
Thank you for the information. I configured the distance on the root bridges, but the links showed instability.
I'm using a bi-directional amplifier. It has two pieces. According to the manuals, one is installed indoors, the other outdoors. I'm not sure if the indoors piece has the transmition module or it's only the injector.
We could establish connection at 7 km (around 4 milles) distance from the central point, using 24 dBi antennas on the other side.
However, we have issues with a near located point that is only 1.2 Km (around 0.8 milles) away and has a 13 dBi integrated patch antenna. The signal strenght value we get there is in the -62 to -68 dBm range, and is noticiably (5-10 dBm) lower than the strenght we get at other points of the link. And I have trouble establishing a high quality link with that point, using OFDM modulation. I tend to think that if I remove the amplifier I'm not going to reach that point at all. The EIRP on the central iste is 34 dBm / 2.5 watts, without amplifier it would be 26 dBm / 0.4 watts.
On the opposite sites the EIRP is 33 dBm / 2 watts using CCK or 28 dBm / 0.63 watts using OFDM.
When one looks at the central site from that point, an Motorola Canopy with passive reflector (EIRP 48 dBm or around 64 watts) can be seen. It doesn't have the same direction, but the opposite site must be large distance and could interfere with my wireless network. Attached is an amplified photo of the view. It's safe to assume that the Canopy operates in the 2.4 GHz frequency range.
Once I connect the point at 1.2 Km, the multipoint link loses its quality, and soon the lost packets get too frequent.
The CCK seems to be much more interfered than OFDM, I guess because of that canopies.
Another thing I'm wondering about is if the Aironet 1310 can continuosly switch CCK-OFDM over the same point - multipoint link, without losing packets.
What other parameters should I tweak? Is there a way to avoid interferences fromt the canopy?
I would like to apply 100 mWatts local power using the radio with OFDM, but it seems that's not possible.
Best Regards,
Igor Sotelo.

Aironet 1310 Bridge, delay and timeout problem

Hi,
We have 3 Aironet 1310 Wireless Bridge. 1 of them is Root bridge, others non-root and Workgroup bridge. Normally ping delays are 6-7 ms avarage, but somedays 200-300 ms and timeouts. I dont understand what is the reason. Any other wireless telephone? or other 2.4 Ghz antenna? or ground voltage of buildings? 1 of the non-root bridge's configuration is at the attachment.
Regards.

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Cisco Aironet 1310 series

hello all,
I have a cisco Aironet 1310 series which am having problem with the signal strength. This box came with 8 dbi Omni antenna gain and am told this can go upto 5km raduis. After configuring this equipment, i could not get a link when i move 500 meters. Please find attached the configs on the box. Any help given would be very much appreciated. Thank You

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As others had mentioned, if you're looking for an access point situation with that kind of range, then you need WiMax....
but if it is bridging you want, its just a matter of getting the other link to see this one (with a good enough antenna)

Aironet 1310 APs dropping connections

Hello, I have two Aironet 1310s outdoors - one on a boat and the other on a building. I have one ANT24120 antennas attached to each AP. I am trying to determine why I am having dropped connections. Any help would be appreciated.

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Aironet 1310

hi everybody i am santosh , i have a cisco aironet 1310 running 12.4(10b)JA1 and c1310-k9w7-mx.124-10b.JA1/c1310-k9w7-mx.124-10b.JA , it was working fine but suddenly i found that it has gone to AP mode while all these days it was working in Bridgemode . could any one tell me how to revert it back to bridge mode .

You are correct. The power injector is just that and the bridge unit actually has all the intelligence in it. The power injector is just your interface connection to the unit for console and ethernet and provides power to the bridge.
Seth

Upgrading IOS on Aironet 1310

I want to upgrade the IOS on a couple of our Aironet 1310s but do it wirelessly. The bridges I am upgrading are not accessible at the time I wish to carry out the work which is why I am not doing it via a wired connection. It isnt an ideal situation but an alternative requires an outage during working hours.
A recently purchased 1310 had a sticker on it saying the radio interface is disabled by default in newer IOS images. Does this mean that when I upgrade the software it will automatically disable the radio interface when I reload? If that is the case I will have no alternative but to organise an outage.

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http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo1300/brsc1234/o13mfw.htm
rate if it helps ....

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Hi,
There is no way to do this by configuring something on the bridges, as there are no
features on the bridges that we can configure on them to say: "Monitor
another wired link between these two sites, and if that one goes down, then
associate with the other bridge to start passing traffic over here, or use
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Aironet 1310, power injector and poe cable

Hello,
Can the power injector delivered with aironet 1310 be supplied by a PoE RJ45 cable rather than the traditionnel DC adapter?
The problem is, i thought Aironet 1310 was PoE. Which means it can be power supplied by a rj45 cable.
But, when i openned my brand new 1310 box, i realized that 1st, it needs that Power Injector to work and that 2nd, Power injector needs a power supply...
Usually when i buy a PoE access point, I just plug in my PoE rj45 cable and its power supplied :)
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lachapelle

Hi lachapelle,
Sadly the 1310 cannot be powered by PoE ,but, the Power Injector can be up to 100 meters away from the unit.
Dual coaxial cable to run from the power injector to the 1300. See attached notes:
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Access Point/Bridge Power Injector
The Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Power Injector,converts the standard 10/100 BaseT Ethernet interface that is suitable for weather protected areas to a dual F-Type connector interface for coax cables that are more suitable for harsh outdoor environments. The Power Injector also provides power to the outdoor unit over the same cables with a power discover feature and surge protection. To support longer cable runs from your wireless network switch or router, the Power Injector LR is designed to accommodate up to a 100 meter coaxial cable run plus 100 meters of indoor cat5 cable?enabling total cable runs up to 200 meters. The Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge ships with the Power Injector LR2 and an AC power supply.
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a008022551d.html
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Hardware Installation Guide
Ethernet Ports
The access point/bridge dual-coax Ethernet ports consists of a pair of 75-ohm F-type connectors, linking the unit to your 100BASE-T Ethernet LAN through the power injector. The dual-coax cables are used to send and receive Ethernet data and to supply inline 48-VDC power from the power injector to the access point/bridge.
Power
The access point/bridge receives inline power from the Cisco Aironet Power Injector (hereafter called the power injector). Dual-coax cables are used to provide Ethernet data and power from the power injector to the access point/bridge. The power injector is an external unit designed for operation in a sheltered environment, such as inside a building or vehicle. The power injector also functions as an Ethernet repeater by connecting to a Category 5 LAN backbone and using the dual-coax cable interface to the access point/bridge.
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_installation_guide_book09186a00804d3095.html
AIR-PWRINJ-BLR2
F-Type Connectors
Dual coaxial cable carries full-duplex Ethernet, DC power, and full-duplex console port (RS-232 connection)
From this link:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_data_sheet09186a00802252e1.html
Hope this helps!
Rob

Lost The Cisco Aironet 1310 Web Interface????

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When I click the "Web Console" link it takes me to the following page:
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here is the command..
archive download-sw / force-reload /overwrite tftp:///
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archive download-sw / force-reload /overwrite tftp:///c1310-k9w7-tar.124-21a.JA1.TAR
to get the .TAR, go to the folder where the image is saved and then Tools >> folder options >> view >> check >> show hidden files and folders.
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it should be c1310-k9w7-tar.124-21a.JA1.TAR
lemme know how this works out for you!! if you face any difficulties while upgrading please open up a TAC case.. we wil solve this in less than 5 minutes... and the network wil be back up!!
Regards
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A sensor(IP device) is wired into the 1310WGB. The sensor needs MULTICAST to operate!
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Have you seen this thread??
https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3061760#3061760
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