Airport Admin Utility wont see ABS "Snow"

Hi.
The Airport Admin Utility (v 4.1.1) and the Airport Setup Assistant (v 4.1.1) , and the Airport Setup Assistant for "Snow" or "Graphite" (v 3.4.3) and the Airport Management Utility (v 1.0) won't see my "Snow" Base station. I have Mac OS 10.4.1 on my G5.
My Powerbook, which is upgraded to 10.4.2 with updated Airport 4.2 software installed will not see the base station with any of these utilities either.
My Ruby iMac, which is attached to the Airport base station via an ethernet cable running Mac OS 10.1 (I think) sees the base station without problem.
The networks themselves are visible (I have two DSL connections temporarily and have the newer DSL temporarily hooked up with the Westell Versalink wireless modem that comes with a Verizon account). Airport sees and connects thru to either network, but I can't see the Apple base station. I have no idea whether I should be able to see the Westell modem, but that's immaterial.
- The DSL modem is connected to the WAN port on the Airport Base Station.
- I don't have "Block UDP Traffic" selected in the Sharing Control Panel
- the network names appear in the "Preferred Networks" tab in Networks
- the network names appear in Internet Connect
- the networks appear in the dialog text field at the beginning of Diagnostics
The G5 has Airport Extreme card and the Powerbook has an older Airport card.
Is this some wierd marketing deal on Apple's part to make me buy a new base station? Can't I make this work?
I've done a lot of reading in Discussion, Knowledge base and the usual Mac sites and I can't find the exact problem, nor can I find a solution.
(Oh help me Obi Wan, You're My Only Hope. )
Anybody got a clue how to see the Base Station?
Catherine

Hi Catherine,
You should be able to see the Airport from any mac. All that is important is the version of firmware on the Airport and the airport software on the Mac. I suggest that you get the newest airport firmware on the airport. The easiest way to do this is to plug the powerbook into the airport like you currently have your iMac plugged in via ethernet. Then airport admin should see it. Use the option to upload the default firmware to the base station.
Make certain the all macs that you use to administer the airport have the newest version of airport software.
As for the Westell, airport software will not see that. You will likely only be able to administer that through a web browser.
-travis n

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