Airport and firewire drive

A few days ago the airport signal is grayed out when I am running from my firewire drive. I tryed a different firewire drive and it was the same. Next I tryed a different Powerbook with both drives and it too was the same, grayed out in the menubar. When running from the internal drive on both Powerbooks it works fine. I have also used several different firewire cables. Any ideas as to what is happening?

Printah,
Welcome to discussions.
So are you telling us that you have a version of OSX 10.4 installed on a couple of firewire drives ? And that you sometimes boot from these drives (holding down F at startup) ?
Does the version of OSX installed on the firewire drive include the AirPort software ?
And if it does, does it have it enabled in the Network system preference ?
And if it is, is it used ? ie. Do you still use Ethernet first, if it can establish a network connection ?
And if AirPort is used and preferred, does it have a preferred network to join ?
And if it does, have you retained the password in your Keychain (on that installation of OSX, not the one on your internal drive) ?

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