Airport Drops Signal - UPDATE, no fix
I've been having the same problem as most of the people in this forum right now. Dropped or weak airport signal, even though your sitting right next to the router. People have seemed to attributed the problem to firmware updates on the card or the basestation. It happened to me right when I updated to 10.4.4 and the APEX to 6.3, right around the time of Macworld.
So I went to the Apple store today to see if the genius bar could help me out. The 2 guys there had seen the problem recently in a few other computers, and we were able to diagnose it as a software/firmware problem. They had no official information directly from Apple about the problem, but assured me that they watch these boards and probably know about this problem.
Their diagnosis was to either send the PB in for a $300 repair, which wouldn't fix it anyway, or wait for the next update and hope that that fixes it. Not the answer that I wanted, but at least I know i'm not going crazy.
Can we find a way to fix it temporarily? Anyone been successful downgrading firmware or doing an erase and install? Has anyone had a different result finding a fix? I'm really not enjoying being tethered to my 20 ft ethernet cable right now.
I actually tried that a while back, but no luck. It doesn't seem to be an issue with my basestation. I know alot of people have had fixes when they downgraded firmware in their Airport Extreme Base Stations, but for me, its and issue with my Powerbook.
I know this because i'm using a Dlink router. But i tried my APEX basestation and still no luck. Went to my mom's house and couldn't see her network. Tried it at work and weak and dropped signal there. The final nail in the coffin was at the Apple store where I could barely pick up their network while I was surrounded by macs that had full signal.
I did an archive and install, downgraded to 10.4, and then tried to install the updates one by one, no luck. I checked the firmware on the card, which said 3.5.something, but it was still not working. I went throught all the updates and the signal never got better. I set-up new users, trashed preferences, reset PRAM, fixed permissions, all the regular stuff, still broken.
I KNOW it's an issue with my computer, not the basestation. I did get a pop-up window that asked me to upgrade my airport when i installed the 10.4.4combo update. I'm wondering if that did it.
PB 17 1.5ghz Mac OS X (10.4.4)
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I have just got a new Imac have got it onto my home network. Today Airport has begun to drop signal when the time machine is updating. I keep getting messages that say the Data disk isnt connected. I am using a time capsule. I dont get this problem with the 2 G4 powerbooks I have that backup to the same TC. Airport seems to be looking for new networks every 20 seconds.... is this normal?? I havent noticed this on my powerbooks?
Anyone got any clues??
Just thought. Is there a setting that will shut down Airport when the computer sleeps?? I have it set on never sleep at the moment and display sleep after 10 min.
Thanks for any help that you guys can post!
CheersMine has dropped a couple times the last day or so.
I'm thinking it was the security update they just
released. It had some stuff in there related to
airport. Did you install it?
Yes, I did install it. But this was happening before the secuity update. I think it's more likely related to the firmware upgrade I did. Did you do that one? -
I was havving troubles with AirrPort for some time. I reviewed the posts and everyone suggested the new AirPort upgrade was to blame. I reverted back to 5.5.1 but still have the problem of weak signals and droped connections. I was very frustrated and I spent a day backing up iTunes, iPhoto, Documents.....
I did a complete system install. I wiped the HD and proceeded with a new system, avoiding the AirPort upgrades. I felt this would solve the issue, but IT DIDN'T. I continue to get dropped signals and significant drop in signal intensity despite all this.
Has anyone found a solution to this issue?
StevenIf it makes you feel better, I have had the exact same problem that you describe, and I am at a loss to explain it. The wireless signal just drops randomly (I have an iBook G4 with an AirPort CARD only). This does not happen on my windows pc that is in another room, and uses the same wireless router. My wireless connection had worked for months before this without problems, and I have not moved my iBook or my router in the last several months.
I also have been able to rule out the recent software update, even though it was initially what I suspected. Here is another interesting wrinkle - I took my iBook to the Genius Bar at the Apple Store yesterday, and while waiting (45 minutes or so), I could NOT replicate the problem. My wireless connection was fine the entire time and never dropped. The "Genius" and I brainstormed, and could not come up with an explanation, other than some new type of interference in my building. He advised me to try a new installation, but it seems many of us have tried that to no avail.
A lot of people have viewed this topic, so I suspect there are more of us out there with this problem. -
Airport Drops and Freezes---- Finally Fixed!
Ever since I bought my MBP in July, 2009, I have had trouble with total freezes and airport drops.
The fixes by Apple:
1. New hard drive, battery, keyboard, logic board
2. Problem persisted-- new logic board
3. Problem persisted-- heat sensor was missing the sensor part
4. Problem persisted-- Genius said it was 3rd party software
5.Problem persisted-- local Apple certified repair shop had no idea
6. Problem Persisted-- in the meantime I had done several erase and install. It froze up every time I installed SL
7. Problem persisted and I took it to Apple Store last week in one last final try. After hours of testing, it froze for them. They ordered new hard drive and logic board. Then the tech noticed it freeze and dropped the internet. He checked one of the logs and saw that the airport card had lost power just before the freeze.
He replaced the airport card and it is finally fixed-- the first time since July, 2009.
So if you have freezes and airport drops, be sure to check the airport. The airport was never changed when the logic board, et.al. were replaced.Wow! I would think replacing the airport would be the first step in this madness.
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Airport dropping signal?? can't find it unless I restart
I have an imac, it's only a week old. bought it as a refurb.
I ran some recommended updates, and within the day, the signal from wireless internet drops randomly (? i think) and then my computer won't recognize my server/signal unless I restart, then it works fine for a while til it drops.
?? any ideas would be helpful.
imac efi firmware update 1.1is the update that I suspect, only because shortly after I ran that update, I started having the problem. I don't know what the efi firmware 1.1 is.
imac 1.83 intel core duo Mac OS X (10.4.8)I think I'm having a similar problem. My AirPort Extreme base station (802.11g) will "disappear." My airport menu shows that I'm still connected to the network, but when I open the AirPort admin utility, the base station does not appear. I hit the "rescan" button a few time, nothing. The only way I can get it back is to power-cycle the base station. I have 3 macs in the house and when the base station disappears, none of them can find it. My AirPort Express flashes amber indicating it too has lost the connection with the "main" base station. I've gone so far as to do a hard reset of the AirPort Extreme base station. Last night I changed the channel it's operating on, we'll see if that helps. Any clue as to why it would just drop off like that?
24" iMac Intel Core 2 Duo Mac OS X (10.4.8) -
The wifi reception on my 3rd gen iPad is terrible. I have an original iPad and iPad2, works fine with them. Is there is a software update to fix this?
Look at iOS Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1398
Additional things to try.
Try this first. Turn Off your iPad. Then turn Off (disconnect power cord) the wireless router & then back On. Now boot your iPad. Hopefully it will see the WiFi.
Change the channel on your wireless router. Instructions at http://macintoshhowto.com/advanced/how-to-get-a-good-range-on-your-wireless-netw ork.html
How to Quickly Fix iPad 3 Wi-Fi Reception Problems
http://osxdaily.com/2012/03/21/fix-new-ipad-3-wi-fi-reception-problems/
If none of the above suggestions work, look at this link.
iPad Wi-Fi Problems: Comprehensive List of Fixes
http://appletoolbox.com/2010/04/ipad-wi-fi-problems-comprehensive-list-of-fixes/
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Hello,
I have seen similar questions posted but haven't found any answers that seem to work for me. I have an ibook G4 that keeps dropping the Airport connection. It will work fine for some time, then all of a sudden, the airport icon will go gray and I am unable to see any networks in the drop down menu. (I cannot even see the networks that my neighbors have set up, where I usually am able to see them).
I will describe my setup a bit more. I have 2 wireless networks. One is through a wireless router provided by my ISP, Verizon. The other network is an Airport Express network. The Airport Express is plugged into the wireless router and also is how I use the printer. Both are protected with WEP passwords. (The ISP wireless network came preset with a WEP password, and we set the Airport Express with a WEP password when we got it.)
The Airport drops the signal periodically regardless of which network I have it connected to. My husband's PC can see and connect to the internet via both networks and does not seem to have the dropping problem.
I have fully updated the software on the ibook. I have also tried various suggestions I have read, such as deleting all the networks from the list of preferred networks and then readding them and moving Airport up to the top of the internet connection priority list.
I just love my ibook and it has worked perfectly for so long. I hope that maybe there is something simple that needs to be fixed. Thank you so much in advance.I have the same issue. i immediately went to Google for help and found this bit of interesting information, saying that if you upgrade the ram in your notebook, which i have done, that the WIFI card will overheat. The problem with this is I had upgraded my ram and it worked fine for months. Perhaps overtime the heat got to it who knows.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=485804
Then I found this monster of a tutorial:
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2005093011343164
I tried many solutions on that including resetting my PMU and NVRAM which made sense because the track pad would get funny when the wireless dropped out. (the PMU controls the power to devices such as track pad and airport) No luck. I guess it's just our hardware failing.
I use Mac OS 10.4.2 to answer ilikemycomputer's question. Although i may update to 10.4.11 so i could use logic 8 if i decide that's what I'm going to do.
I was hoping maybe there was a firmware or BIOS update or something, if macs have such things.
I have been considering experimenting with Linux on my G4 just for fun. I don't know if I'll get around to doing that but maybe that will tell if it's a software problem or not.
More information:
This only happens to me when I'm downloading or seeding torrents. I never have any problems when working in web browsers, even if i download files off of a web sight. no problems. Even if i slow the upload speed on my torrent client (Transmission V1.0) to 5KB/s up and down. It will eventually have problems. I'm going to experiment with slower speeds.
My workaround:
I invested in a 25' non shielded patch cable. for $7 USD. Whenever I'm going to be torrenting i just plug it into my rougher. They come in all sizes and colors so you can be very expressive with it. I got a purple one.
This seems to be the fate of internet on Macintosh laptops.
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My wife and i have an iPhone 5 6.1.2 firmware.. We both are having horrible wifi signals. We have done everything we can.. What update will fix this? I get full bars on my iPad 2 through my whole house.. Be standing right beside the router with iPhones and it cuts in and out.. Drops from 3 wifi bars to 1
I am having the same problem with brand new Ipad Mini at my house.
It connects to the WiFi fine - but will not pull an IP address in DHCP mode, or if I set all the IP info statically - it still will not get any network access.
This doesn't look like a WiFi issue, as it does connect and is seen by the WiFi Access Point. All the normal WiFi fix stuff doesn't help.
- Using a Dlink DAP-2553 which is less than 2 months old.
Other devices connect fine, including Ipad 2.
This same Mini worked fine at another house and also connected to a mobile hotspot fine....so seems to be some weird IP issue with maybe this Access Point or maybe the older Router that I have (older Netgear)?
I am actually a network engineer and still have not been able to find a solution. Both the Ipad Mini and the Dlink WAP have the latest firmware loaded.
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My Airport keeps dropping signals!!
I am losing my mind!!! We have an airport extreme base station connected to our Vonage router from the DSL modem. It was all working just fine and then one day it just started to drop the signal throughout the day. It does in and out but still shows that I have full signal in the airport bars in my top menu. I tried the internet without the airport and just plugged directly in from the DSL and it worked perfectly. I also tried it with the airport out from the DSL and leaving the vonage router out of the equation and it dropped signals . this tells me that it is the airport.
In the house we also have two other airport extremes. they both extend the range of our network and one of them is used to connect to the stereo for itunes.
My system all worked fine before the system update and now it doesn't. I am at a total loss and am exhausted from trying to deal with this anymore. is there a soloution floating around in here that i am simply too frazzled to see?I don't know if this is the solution or not, but I noticed after the 10.4.5 update, I could only see access points on channel 6.
My own access point was on channel 1 and I couldn't see it or connect to it, even with the SSID being fully broadcast. I changed the access point (Linksys WAP54G) to channel 6 and I'm connected for over 2 days with a rock solid connection.
I still do not see any access points in my neighborhood, including my second access point which is on channel 14 (Linksys WRT54G).
Let me know if this works for you.
Regards,
Sparkus -
If, like a lot of others on this forum, are having problems with losing their airport signal, it is most likely not your airport, but the latest Airport upgrade, 4.2. Please see this previous discussion:
http://discusssearch.info.apple.com/webx?14@@.68b4598e/1
I followed this link and downgraded to 4.1 from 4.2 per Christian Bonato and everything seems to be holding, at least so far. I hope someone at Apple is aware of this and working on a fix. It knocked out 3 of my Macs!Since I was the original poster and did put up another post that this fix seemed only to work about a day here is my update:
I have a mixed setup: Clamshell iBook with airport card, Tibook with airport card, and iMac G5 with extreme card.
All worked fine together through a snow airport, until mid-August about the time of the 10.4.2 update and the Airport 4.2 update.
Slowly they quit seeing the network or I had to be almost on top of the base station to get it to work. The iMac is sitting almost next to the base station so it had no problem. If I restarted the base station it would work for a few minutes to an hour.
Thinking my snow unit had had it I bought a Netgear G type unit. Hooked it up and wham everything worked great, at least for about 4 days, then the same deal. laptops would see the base station but when I tried to log on it said there was an error and would not allow the log on. the iMac would spaz out sometimes and just not see the base station.
I tried a lot of ideas from the discussion groups and on my own. I tried the 4.1 down grade and it worked for about a day. Since the iMac G5 displayed somewhat different messages than the laptops I just turned its Airport card off and bingo the laptops were happy again and no problems. Turn on the iMac card and within 2 hours the troubles reappear.
I now have my iMac hard wired to the router with its airport card turned off, and all is well for over 3 weeks now. I still do not understand the problem but it can be traced to the update, either the Airport 4.2 or the 10.4.2 update. I also tried reinstalling the 10.4.2 combo update on the iMac and that didn't fix anything.
From what I can tell from my setup is: a mix of B and G cards seems to create the problem and one of the two updates from mid-August set it off. It also does not seem to be a base station make or model problem, it is an equal opportunity issue. -
Will there ever be an update to fix the weak signal?
Hello! I am one of those galaxy nexus owners who absolutely love the phone but HATE the weak signal...
When I am in an open area, I seem to get pretty good reception on my phone, but everything changes when I go inside a building! I get HORRIBLE reception inside buildings (like my house and work), which causes my phone to slightly heat up and drain battery very quickly. I am tired of having to turn on airplane mode in these situations to conserve battery! I can confidently say that it is the phone, not the area, that causes the weak signal because my friends who have Verizon iPhones get 2-3 bars of 3G when I have ZERO bars...
I have tried almost everything to improve signal (restart phone, take out battery and sim card, allow CDMA only, etc.) , and nothing seems to have worked!!! My sister, who also has a galaxy nexus, has the same problems as I do, so I doubt a replacement phone/sim card would be any help.
Does anyone know if Verizon/Google/Samsung will be releasing an update to improve signal for this phone?I'm having these problems as well. I keep thinking the next software update will fix it, but it hasn't. At least not fully. I was with my wife on a road trip over Thanksgiving weekend and took some comparison screenshots of both phones. As you'll see in these screenshots, the Galaxy Nexus barely has a bar of 3G, while the iPhone boast full strength. Yes, I know that bars are only a visual representation, but it's hard to get DBM information on the iPhone. I can tell you the Galaxy Nexus couldn't even load a mobile friendly web-site, while the iPhone did. Here I avoided the iPhone 4S because of "signal issues". A lot of good that did me. Thoughts Verizon? Replacement SIM cards don't fix the issue.
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AirPort drops off continually while listening to Spotify, how do i solve this issue?
Airport drops off continually while listening to Spotify, how do i fix this?
Hello @Kelly45!
Thank you for posting on the HP Forums!
I can see your printer is showing offline when it is in fact online. The first thing I suggest is to remove the power from the printer and the router and restart the computer. After 20 seconds plug the router and printer back in and see if you still experience the issue. I also suggest moving the router or printer so they are 5-10 feet apart. Too close and too far away may cause odd connection issues. You will also want to ensure the router is not next to speakers or a TV. Other electronics can effect Wi-Fi signal as well.
If you are still experiencing the issue then it may be software related. I recommend uninstalling the HP software. After the uninstall is complete it would be a good idea to perform a disk cleanup in the computer. A disk cleanup will improve computer performance and clear temporary files that may cause issues during the install of software. Once the disk cleanup is complete you should restart the computer and re-install the HP software.
To uninstall HP software click here: Uninstalling HP Software
To perform a disk cleanup click here: Performing a Disk Cleanup
To download the HP software click here: HP Software and Driver (Click "Download" next to HP Officejet Full Feature Software and Driver)
Please post back and let me know how it goes!
Cbert
I work on behalf of HP.
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Airport dropping for the past two weeks One Bar.
My Powerbook running 10.4.11 for the past two weeks I have been having problems with my airport connection. I got one bar and then it drop. I have a MacBook Pro and have 5 Bars. My Powerbook is in close prmity to my airport extreme external antenna. So was it the lastest updates that I applied that
screw up my Airport. How do I fix it.Hi Frank, this article explains the issues of the connection problem. I would post it, but it's quite lengthy. There are many links to follow and I hope you find a fix.
<http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2005093011343164>
Ray -
Time Capsule appears twice in Airport drop down menu
Menu Bar > Airport drop-down menu: My Time Capsule's wireless name shows up twice in my list of wifi sources. Once in the group with all the other routers and again in a group called "Devices".
Long story short…
I start with a perfectly functional, WPA/WPA2 password-protected Time Capsule: Over a year old. Two MbP's using it for Time Machine backup. Connected to a 1.5TB MyBook external HD via usb. Doubles as my wifi router. Everything's connected to it, including my wifi-enabled printer. Works great. No issues.
I get this idea in my head that I need to hide my wifi signal. I figure it out and ¡Viola! Hidden. Then I try to add my wifi-enabled printer to the list of allowed devices in "Access Control". I hit a big snag and can't figure out how to get it to connect (btw, don't buy a Brother printer. Pure crap). So, I give up and revert permissions back to visible, password-protected state.
Skipping irrelevant issues that I already resolved, I now have the wireless name of my Time Capsule appearing twice in the airport drop down menu. It appears with all the other wifi sources my machine detects AND appears at the bottom under a new category called "Devices".
All I want is to have things back the way they were and this anomaly in the drop down menu is a constant reminder that I #1 failed and #2 bought a crap printer.
(Long story long, I guess. Sorry.) How do I delete this "Devices" group from the airport drop down menu?Stilts McCoy wrote:
Menu Bar > Airport drop-down menu: My Time Capsule's wireless name shows up twice in my list of wifi sources. Once in the group with all the other routers and again in a group called "Devices".
You might find useful advice in this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=12156248
If you want to post a reply, please do so to this thread, not the other one. -
Airport extreme firmware update screwed up my IP sharing and internet
I am having all the same problems -
1) I upgraded to the 7.1 firmware
2) I got the 'double NAT' error, but no problems connecting to the internet
3) When I turned the bridge mode to off, I lost my internet, so I
4) Tried to turn the bridge mode back to Share an IP address, but got an error about IP addresses.
5) I went into Setup - the network port mapping tab - and unchecked and then re-checked the Airport button, so now I have internet access, but only at one computer, and if my computer is functional, my VOIP modem is not (or vice versa)!
6) when I tried going back into "Share an IP address", I got the same error about the beginning and end DHCP conflicting with my WAN.
(If it helps to know, I have two AEBS - one is set up as the Main WDS station, and the other Participates in that WDS)
Now I'm afraid to touch anything!!kayek wrote:
I have installed the new AirPort Extreme firmware update (7.4.1) and with airport disk utility i want to connect automatically my hard drive related to the airport (wifi mode) , the connexion was working well before that update and now i have an error message (unknown user or wrong password error -36 ...) when the disk tries to connect automatically.
I would like to rollback to the 7.3.2 firmware version but there is no way to find it on internet (or on apple download) even if i change rollback airport utility to version 5.4.1: the binary firmware 7.3.2 disapeared from my mac and i can only choose 7.4.1 binary file ...
Do anyone have the same problem ?I you found how to fix it please answer my post (thanks)
Ok, here's how you actually do the downgrade - here's what Apple says, not exactly right - I would add that you HAVE to go to the MENU, choose BASE STATION, then hold down the Option key while pressing UPLOAD FIRMWARE, this will get you to a window that has the dropdown with older versions....the other versions were not available to me any other way.
{quote}If I have a computer or device that does not work well with an AWD with the latest update, how can I install previous (earlier) versions of firmware?
1. Open AirPort Utility.
2. From the AirPort Utility menu, hold the Option key (Control key in Windows XP and Vista) and choose Check for Updates....
3. Select the specific firmware version you require.
4. Click Download.
5. Select your base station and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click on the AWD icon.
6. Choose Base Station > Upload Firmware.
7. Select a firmware version and click OK.{/quote}
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