Airport Ex (n) Config messed up, BSname "000000" No 802.11n and no country

I have just come into work to find one of or Airport extreme (n) base stations undiscoverable to my MBPro or iMac, It was originally dishing out our 802.11n (b/g compatible) network.
I connected via Ethernet and found the config had no settings under "wireless" but was turned on, I toggled the drop box from off to "create a wireless network" but still nothing in the settings. I could not change any setting from the blank drop boxes.
I reset the power, still nothing.
I have reset the base station to factory defaults but its the same except now the base stations name is "Base Station 000000" no matter what I do.
The Firmware shows as "74200.9"
Is this now my latest mac branded door stop?

Snowshiva wrote:
SO its almost definatly not a software/firmware issue that can be resolved without braking open the box.
I won't swear that it's not a firmware issue, but I'd doubt that it's a software issue. If your AirPort unit is that sick, it might be hard to get it to see and/or accept different firmware. On the other hand, it wouldn't take much to try. In AirPort Utility hold down an "option" key and choose "Check for Updates" from the "AirPort Utility menu.
Is it a known fault, a dry joint or something that can be cooked back?
Yours is the first report I've seen of that problem, so I could only speculate.

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http://www.applesource.com.au/mac-accessories/soa/Apple-AirPort-Express-Base-Sta tion-802-11n-/0,2000451112,339287629,00.htm

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