Airport Express and Netgear powerline extender

I use my Airport Express for airtunes only on my wireless router. (It's a Netgear Rangemax WPN824). The station is in range of my wireless router and has worked fine to date.
I recently bought a powerline extender for my network (a Netgear WGX102). I put the extender in the area of my apartment that was out of range of my router. It is, however, in the same room as the Airport Express. In other words, the Airport Express is in range of both my wireless rounter and the powerline extender.
What happens is that the airport express station drops off the network when I have the powerline extender working and/or the extender doesn't work when Airport Express is.
Ideally they would work together so that I could be online and stream music. I can't seem to make it happen.
I've tried excluding the Airport Express from accessing the extender by limiting access to just the PC's, but that didn't make a difference.
Clearly there is some conflict but I don't know how to resolve it.
Unfortunately my router does not seem to support WDS, which would mean I could use my Airport Express as a bridge. (Or at least Netgear says it isn't and I'm not technically savvy enough to hack it if in fact it is.)
Is there anything I can do?
Windows XP Pro

I would like to understand why you need to set up the AEX as "create a wireless network" instead of "extend a wireless network".
"Extend a wireless network" is used only if the AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express are communicating together using wireless only...not Ethernet.
"Create a wireless network" is used only if the AirPort device has an Ethernet connection....which it does in the type of setup that you have.
It just seems counter intuitive to me and I'm trying to get smarter about the whole networking thing.
All the info about all the different types of ways to provide additional wireless coverage is contained in this Apple document. It's on the main forum page, but users tend to either ignore it, or perhaps miss it.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145

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Airport extreme and Netgear powerline extender problem.

II setup a Netgear Powerline Extender/Adapter on my airport extreme network. Followed all the instructions to get the extender/adapter to see each other but when i finally plug the Adapter via ethernet into my airport extreme, i lose internet connection and airport utility no longer can see my Extreme which i use as the base station. What am i doing wrong?

If you verify that the LAN ports are all working on the AirPort Extreme, the next troubleshooting step would go as follows:
Plug both power line adapters (PLA) into the AC sockets
Connect your computer using an Ethernet cable to the "remote" PLA
Connect an Ethernet cable from the PLA near the AirPort Extreme to one of the LAN ports on the Extreme
Can you get a good Internet connetion on your laptop at the "remote" PLA end?
If yes, then we have verified that the connection is good through the "remote" PLA.
What device to you plan to connect to the "remote" PLA?
If you cannot get a good Internet connection at the "remote" PLA end on your laptop, try another Ethernet cable just in case. If that does not help, there is likely a problem with one (or both) of the PLA devices...since the Ethernet signal is not being delivered to the "remote" PLA.

Extend wireless network with multiple airport express and netgear powerline

I currently have the following network configuration:
1. Using ATT u-verse (2-wire 3800HGV-B "modem") to internet
2. Disabled the u-verse modem wireless router, and have connected an Apple Time Capsule wireless router (on a DMZ)
3. Have four Netgear XAVB5001 powerline adapters connected to the time capsule (for our iMac desktops and the Apple TV)
4. Have an Airport Express wirelessly connected to the time capsule to extend range (for our iPhones and iPad)
All this is currently working. What I would like to do is the following, keeping 1-3 above the same:
4. Connect the airport express to the time capsule via Netgear XAVB5101 powerline adapter (instead of wirelessly connecting to the time capsule as it is today) and use it to extend the wireless range of the time capsule
5. Add ANOTHER airport express to the time capsule via powerline adapter (and extend the wireless range elsewhere in the house).
Does anyone have any experience with this kind of setup and can assure that it would work? (I'm trying to decide whether to spring for a couple more powerline adapters and another airport express)
Thanks in advance!
Dave

I had a VERY similar problem: I was trying to extend my wireless network using a hardwired ethernet connection from Airport Extreme to my Time Capsule. Every time I plugged in the wire to the TC, everything disappeared. Unplugged, and boom. Came back.
Here's how I solved it:
Go into Airport Utility and select the unit you are trying to use as a wireless extender and choose to edit it. Then, on the wireless tab select CREATE a wireless network. But, give it the exact same name and password. This is completely counter-intuitive. You would think to choose EXTEND, but this would be wrong. Next choose the network tab. And, select Router mode to Bridge (off).
By choosing the same name and password, your phone, laptop, etc. will think it's on the same network and move seamlessly from one to the other.
See if this fixes your issue. Fixed mine instantly. AND, it only took 3 painstaking hours of checking ethernet connections and rewiring jacks, etc. to figure it out. LOL

AIRPORT EXPRESS AND Dlink Powerline AV 307

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So i was looking at buying an airport express and hooking them up via. ethernet to ethernet. Would this work?
If you mean, can you connect the AirPort Express Base Station (AX), via Ethernet, to the existing D-Link wireless router and still get wireless Internet access from the AX, then the answer is yes. Just be sure to reconfigure the AX as a bridge to allow the D-Link to continue to provide NAT & DHCP services for the entire wireless network.

Wireless network issues w Airport Express and Belkins Powerline HD

Hi,
I have a new Airport Extreme and the wireless network generally works great with my iPad and Sony Vaio, but there are wireless deadspots in my house when using my MacBook, and the wifi signal will die out often for it in those spots. I'm guessing it's because my MacBook is old with only a a/b/g wireless capabilities. I tried extending my network using Airport Express in the deadspots, but it did nothing to strengthen the signal (i.e., since it ended up extending the weak signal).
So, I bought a Belkin's Powerline HD (gigabit), connected one Powerline receiver to the Airport Extreme using ethernet and plugged it into the wall outlet. I plugged in the other Powerline receiver into the wall outlet in the separate room with the deadspot, and I connected my the Airport Express to it directly using ethernet and am having no luck getting the Airport Express create/extend my current wifi network (i tried creating a new network too, but no luck). I know the Powerline does work because when I connect my MacBook to it using ethernet (i.e, not using Airport Express), I have no problems connecting to the internet. But I would really like to create/extend a wireless network in the deadspots of the house for my MacBook so I don't have to use the ethernet cable.
In the Airport Utilities, I set up the Airport Express to connect to Airport Extreme using ethernet and extend the current wireless network (also tried creating a new network). I got as far as getting a successful set-up confirmation and a green light on the Express base unit and can get full bars on the MacBook. But when I try to connect to the internet, I get an error message saying that there is no internet connection. (Same error when I created a new wireless network.) The diagnostic says there is no ISP signal/connection, which leads me to believe that the Express is not connecting to the internet through Airport Extreme. What am I missing? Thanks in advance!

HI, I don't know very much about Airport Express or indeed Apple products in general. However, I do use Belkin 200mbps powerline adapters.
I have used these adapters in two separate ways. 1) device to router; 2) additional wireless access point to router
In the first situation they work perfectly fine and the connection is fast and reliable for anything I care to throw at it (file transfers, audio / video streaming, internet browsing). However, in the second situation the connection drops intermittently. I will have access to the main router via the access point over powerline for all devices, then suddenly this will just stop. To restart it I have to remove the powerline from the mains, wait about ten seconds, plug back in, let it boot up and reconnect and I'm connected again.
Having read more (sorry I don't have the links to hand), it appears that powerline adapters can handle one-to-one traffic fine, but when bridging a wireless access point where several wireless clients are transmitting / receiving, they 'lock up' and just stop. Even when connected in this configuration, streams tend to stutter and my squeezebox devices get totally out of synch.
Given I know very little about Airport Express (i conceded as much at the top of this post), is it fair to assume that a belkin powerline connected to the 'Express' would closer match with scenario 2 in my above description? If so, I'm afraid I don't believe Belkin Powerline will be a suitable solution for you. Hope my experience saves you the days of head-scratching I went through before removing powerline devices (incidentally, I bought a wireless repeater to solve my problem in the end, and put the powerline adapters to good use by connecting my media player (under the TV) to the main router directly).

How do I install a new airport express and link a second airport express to extend the network of the first airport express?

I currently have a linksys wireless router attached to the Internet. I have an A1264 Airport Express connected by Ethernet to the linksys router. I have two network names, one for each wireless network.
I purchased a new A1392 Airport Express to replace the linksys router and join to the A1264 Airport Express, and I want to have one network name as a result.
How do I do this? I realize that I have to reconfigure the A1264 device so that it is an extension of the A1392 device.

You have a fairly complicated set up, so I suggest that it would make sense to tackle things in stages, testing each stage as you go, before proceding to the next stage.
Stage 1 would be setting up the A1392 first to the cable modem, and then making sure that everything is working correctly on the A1392 Express
Stage 2 would be adding the Netgear switch and testing each port with a laptop connected via Ethernet to make sure that everything is operational on the switch
Stage 3 would be connecting the A1264 Express and testing to make sure that it is extending the network correctly
Stage 4 would be adding other Ethernet devices to the Netgear switch and testing each one at a time before adding the next device. There is some question about whether an iOS device can print to an Ethernet connected printer....even if the printer is AirPrint compatible. You may need to connect the HP using wireless...not Ethernet....to gain full AirPrint functionality, or use another application that will allow printing like Printopia or Print Central using the Ethernet connection on the HP.
Stage 5 would be adding the printer to the A1264 AirPort Express.
You do not mention how the printer will connect to the A1264 Express, but I assume that it will be USB from your description. Most printers will work, but you really will not know if your printer will work until you try.
Remember that only printing will be supported at the USB port of the Express. If you have an all-in-one type device, scan, maintenance, and other advanced features will not be operational whent the device is connected to the AirPort Express.
If you want to print from an iOS device like an iPad or iPhone, plan to add additonal software like Printopia or Print Central to possibly allow this function. There are no guarantees here as far as the iOS devices.

Airport Extreme with Netgear Powerline 200 to use Airport Express on other side of house

I currently have my Airport Extreme set up on one side of my house. I have an Airport Express that I want to set up via a Netgear Powerline 200 adaptor on the other side of the house.
When I plug in and connect the ethernet cable to the Netgear Powerline adaptor from the Extreme I see 2 green lights. When I plug in the other Powerline adaptor and then plug into my Macbook Pro, I can't connect to the internet via ethernet from the powerline.
I figured I would ensure that I am getting a signal before confirguring the Express.
Any reason why I wouldn't be able to plug in a device to get an internet connect directly from the Powerline?
Any recommendations for setting up the Powerline?

When I plug in the other Powerline adaptor and then plug into my Macbook Pro, I can't connect to the internet via ethernet from the powerline.
Powerline performance simply cannot be predicted in advance of any installation.
Remember that the products are designed to work on the same electrical circuit and any change to another circuit can and will introduce phase shifts in the signal, not to mention significant loss of signal strength and speed....despite what the advertising or salesguy might claim.
I have had one brand work well trying to get a signal to a location a few rooms away, while another brand will not work in the same installation. Yet, the same brand that did not work well in my home worked fine in a neighbor's home when we tested there.
As a test, locate the problem powerline adapter somewhere in the middle of the house to see if you can get a reliable connection when you check the signal at that location.. If it is OK, then move the adapter a bit further away from the main AirPort Extreme and test again. You get the idea.
Try a few different rooms as well to see if one might work better than another.
You may likely have to accept a compromise locationf for the AirPort Express and hope that it will provide enough signal coverarge for the other end of the house.
I figured I would ensure that I am getting a signal before confirguring the Express.
Good plan there.
Any reason why I wouldn't be able to plug in a device to get an internet connect directly from the Powerline?
I think that we have given you some ideas already. In most cases, there is little that you can do other than move the powerline products closer together, or simply experiment with different locations to see one electrical circuit works better than another through the main electrical panel.
Sometimes a different brand will miraculously work when another won't.
The bottom line....as we said initially.....it is not possible to predict how well.....or if.....powerline products will work in any given installation. You won't know if the products will do what you want in your home until you try them in your home.

Is is possible to use a netgear wireless router to share a cable internet connection between an airport express and a Sony BD player?

Hi,
I have a couple of netgear wireless routers (WGR614, WPN824 v3) as well as a Belkin wireless router (F5D8233-4v3) lying around, and was wondering if it is possible to use any of these to share the internet feed from a cable modem to both an airport express and a Sony Blu-Ray Player? I connected the WPN824 router between the cable modem and the airport express but the airport express will only give an orange light then as if it does not have internet access. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Many thanks.

What you are basically attempting to do is extend the Belkin router with the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) via a wireless connection between them. This method is known as a Wireless Distribution System (WDS). Unfortunately, WDS is not a standard and router manufacturers implemented, in most part, to only work with their products ... so it will be very unlikely that you can create a WDS between your Belkin and the AX. There have been a few Belkin model that have been updated by third-party firmware that support WDS, but the models you listed are not any of them.

The internet coming from my AirPort Extreme, which is extended by an AirPort Express and my Time Capsule, is being very flaky. It is dropping and I have to reconnect every few minutes. Any solutions?

To be more detailed, my AirPort Extreme needs to be extended by an AirPort Express, which then is extended to my personal Time Capsule. The internet drops on my MacBook Pro and other MacBook Pros randomly. We then reconnect with no problem and go on with what we were doing. The internet is fine. Always able to connect. We have Open DNS set up as well. But the flaky internet is annoying. Any ideas how to fix this?

The primary issue that you will need to contend with is the distance between routers. 300' would be at the fringe of the signal coming from the base station located in the house which, most likely, make it too "weak" to extend/repeat with the second base station at the shop.
There is a method to configure a relay base station between them in a Wireless Distribution System (WDS), but a WDS has two major drawbacks: 1) It can only operate in the 802.11g Radio Mode, and 2) For every base station participating in the WDS, the overall bandwidth will be cut in half .., so with a total of three (main, relay, & remote), the maximum of 54 Mbps (for 802.11g) would be more like 15-17 Mbps. If you plan on streaming HD video (either 720p or 1080p), your local wireless network may not have enough bandwidth to do so successfully.
You proposal to run the DSL line to the shop does offer another option. Instead of running a DSL line, run an Ethernet cable between the house and the shop. You would connect one end to any of the available LAN ports on the AirPort Extreme to the Ethernet port on the AirPort Express. You can then configure both base stations into a roaming network and not have bandwidth loss of the WDS.

Best way to extend wireless via airport express and time capsule

best way to extend wireless via airport express and time capsule
i live in a two storey house where i use my airport express to create a wireless network in the main floor, and time capsule to extend it in the upper floor, where my room is. i have like 16 mbps in the main floor, and 2-3 mbps in the upper floor after having speediest.
i used time capsule in the upper floor because i use wireless backup daily and don't want to put internet down while i im doin it and consequently my parent can have internet access in the main floor, am i right? or do i have make just the opposite in order to have a good internet speed?
secondly, while checking airport express wireless mode on airport utility, there is like 4 different type of radio mode(802 11n bg comp, 802 11n 2.4, 802 11n a comp, 802 11n 5ghz) which i have no idea what they mean
what do you recommend?
we have like iphone4, iphone 3g, mbookpro, ipad, ipad 2, samsung tv and a sony vaio laptop in the wireless network
thank you

What you have would appear to be working but I can comment how I would redefine your setup. Note that both Airport Express and Time Capsule can function as wireless base stations so you do have wireless everywhere and at all times — using the Time Capsules for backups doesn’t mean your parents won’t have internet access regardless of the where the base stations are located.
You appear to have devices to connect to your network that use the 2.4 GHz band with 802.11g such as the iPhone 3G and perhaps the 5 GHz band with 802.11n such as likely the Macbook Pro if it’s a recent model. The iPhone 4 can use 5 GHz and 802.11n. Can’t comment on the Sony and Samsung but you can check their specs.
Now the Time Capsule (if it’s a recent version), can simultaneously supply 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz band signals, but the Airport Express (if it’s recent) can only use one of those bands at one time. Likely the lowest common denominator for your devices is going to be the 2.4 GHz band since the devices that are capable of using 5 GHZ also support 2.4 GHz. If you don’t use 5 GHz, you won’t lose much in a two-storey home because likely it’s the 2.4 GHz band is better signal anyway because 5 GHz signals drop off quickly with several walls/floors to penetrate.
You also didn’t mention if the Airport Express is used to support a printer and/or AirPlay (using iTunes to play on remote speakers via the Airport Express connection) but that might also be a factor in the best location to place the Airport Express. Although the printer could be switched between the Time Capsule and the Airport Express if needed, only the Airport Express will support your remote speakers.
Recommend you use the Time Capsule as the Base station. When using Airport Utility to define the network, after you name your network, etc., select the Wireless tab, check the box “Allow this network to be extended” and set the Radio Mode to "802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)”.
Using the Airport Utility, click on the Airport Express; after you define the device and network name, select the Wireless tab, define the Wireless Mode as “Extend a Wireless Network” and check the box “Allow wireless clients”.
Hope that helps.

I have a second generation airport express and i cant manage to extend my wifi

I have a second generation airport express and i cant manage to extend my wifi

So im going to need another airport express to extend my wifi wireless
That is correct.
One AirPort will connect to your router with a short Ethernet cable and be configured to "create" a wireless network.
The second AirPort will be configured to "extend" a wireless network.

How to extend wireless with airport express and time capsule

So, I have a time capsule & because of the thick walls in my apartment, I can barely use my ipad and iphone at night in my bedroom! (my macbookPRO stays at 3 bars however!)
I bought an airport express thinking I could plug it closer to or inside my bedroom to boost the signal - but it doesn't seem to work that way - any tips on how to set this up?
TWO ADDITIONAL Qs:
Does connecting directly to my time capsule (which i'm assuming i'd need another ethernet cable) help with the boost? (then negates the other great uses for the airport express it seems)
Isn't there a way to do the boost with the express wirelessly? I'd really love to get wireless speakers, use airplay AND be able to use my devices just two rooms away .... HELP!
thanks so much (when did apple phone support start to be closed on Sundays?)
cheers.

Suggest that you check your setup again to make sure that the settings are correct on both the Time Capsule and AirPort Express.
Open AirPort Utility, select the Time Capsule and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Make sure that a check mark is entered next to "Allow this network to be extended".( If the box is not checked, the Time Capsule will not extend to the AirPort Express)
Click Update to save your settings and close AirPort Utility
Next, open AirPort Utility again, select the AirPort Express and click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab
Settings should look like this:
Wireless Mode = Extend a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Same name as the Time Capsule network
Check mark entered next to "Allow wireless clients"
Wireless Security = Same setting as the Time Capsule
Wireless Password = Same password as the Time Capsule network
Confirm Password
Update to save settings and close AirPort Utility
Locate the AirPort Express approximately half way between the Time Capsule and area that needs more wireless coverage. You may need to experiment on placement to find the best compomise.
Post back on your results.

I have the airport express as router can I buy the new airport express and use my old airport to extend my net?

I have the airport express as router can I buy the new airport express and extend my net?

Things can get confusing pretty quickly since there are 3 different versions of the AirPort Express.
If by "old", you mean you have Model No A1084 or A1088 AirPort Express (look at the label on the side of the device for the Model No), it cannot be used with the "Extend a wireless network" feature of other newer Apple routers.
If your AirPort Extreme is "square" shaped with rounded corners, then the "old" AirPort Express will not work with your AirPort Extreme using the "Extend a wireless network" settings.
You could use a "previous version" AirPort Express, Model No A1264 to "Extend", or the "new" AirPort Express, Model No A1392, for that purpose.
If your AirPort Extreme is a simultaneous dual band product, then the "new" Express would be able to "extend" both bands. The "previous" AirPort Express (Model A1264) would be able to extend only one band, since it is not a dual band device.

Advised to get an "extender" to be able to stream netflix, etc. through new digital tv. Apple store told me to buy Airport Express and set up WDS. Upon reading about WDS it stated cannot set up WDS with Airport Express 802.11n,

I was advised I needed an "extender" to stream Netflix, etc. through my newly purchased digital TV. Apple store advised me to buy Airport Express and choose WDS setting. When reading instructions on how to set up WDS it states cannot set up WDS with an 802.11n airport express, which is what they told me to purchase. How do I set up this Airport Express to extend my internet signal from my modem & airport to be able to stream internet capability to my TV?

I was advised I needed an "extender" to stream Netflix, etc. through my newly purchased digital TV. Apple store advised me to buy Airport Express and choose WDS setting. When reading instructions on how to set up WDS it states cannot set up WDS with an 802.11n airport express, which is what they told me to purchase. How do I set up this Airport Express to extend my internet signal from my modem & airport to be able to stream internet capability to my TV?

Extending network with Airport Express and Airport Extreme (latest models) causes chaos on network

Today I upgraded from my several year old Airport Extreme (3rd gen) and 2nd gen Airport Express to a new (what you'd buy on the shelf today) Airport Extreme and Airport Express. All airports are updated with the latest firmware and I'm using windows 7 for configuration.
The intention is to use the Airport Extreme as the main router, also serving wifi. And extend the network using the express. As such, the following has been done:
The Airport Extreme is configured for automatic channel, and automatic radio mode. I tried to select 802.11n 5 ghz and 802.11 n 2.4 ghz only, but it won't take the changes. Additionally, it wont' accept me using only channel 6. Not sure why, but I digress. The airport extreme is not set to broadcast a separate name for the 5ghz network.
The Airport Express is configured to use bridge mode, use an existing wireless network and is connected to my network on it's WAN port (the circle icon on the back) with ethernet. The password and wireless name used in configuration is the same as created initially on the Airport Extreme.
Initially I did the configuration of both airports on my computer, connected by ethernet to ensure stable connectivity while I inputted settings. During this, they appeared to accept the changes fine. However, when I moved the airport express to it's destination (other side of my house), the entire network went crazy.
Internet became slow, and often wouldn't load pages. This was on wired and wireless connections. When I attempted to administer the Airport in the Utility, they would not load, an error would occur. Also, at one point the Airport Extreme had renamed it self with a (2) at the end. Which was super odd. So far, the only solution has been to unplug the Airport Express and attempt to devise a solution.
Anyone have any ideas? Of course, I will continue to tinker with this, but it seems realllly strange. The previous setup was also extended (granted, using wireless only, not ethernet > wireless) and worked fine, granted it was a smidge slow, but it worked.

I wanted to add this.. I followed the guide here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260 to extend using ethernet, and the above is the result.
I just tried re configuring in OS X Mavericks and got the same, odd, result.

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