Airport express\extreme problems

i hooked up my new airport extreme and it is working... but now im trying to set up my airport express and it wont work... can i join the two together?

I believe I have it figured out ...
Just havent moved my xbox upstairs yet to see if the eth connection works or not ..
But that doc that everyone references us to is old. The whole auto configure stuff is not there.
For both the Base and AX i used manual mode to configure
So i configured it as a WDS.
Some quick notes thrown together from memory-
Make a note of your MAC address of your AX and Base stations (known as the Airport ID)
Make a note of your network name from your base
Pick a channel for your wireless from your base - ie 11 make a note of it
Go into you base - change your type to participate in WDS network.
Click on your WDS tab, make it a main type
Click on allow wireless clients
That next box where it asks for a client or something - click that + sign.
Plug in the MAC address of your AX - give it name - hit ok and update -
When it comes up you will notice the status of the base is yellow - it should be because there are no WDS relays connected ..
Now with your AX plugged into the wall .. click your network icon and join the other network that is the name of your AX Apple something -
Once you are connected to that network and you see it in airport utility - highlight the AX and click manual configure -
Type change it to participate in WDS network
Channel - use the same channel that your base uses
Network name - type in the same name as the network name as the bases network name
WEP - 128 - (if you used wep) - type in the password - the password that u used when you set up your bases wep
go to the WDS tab - type - network relay
Base station - click the + sign and enter in the the MAC address of your base
and use the ol bridge only mode - so ip addresses are dished out from the base ..
click update ..
Then once it restarts both the base and the AX should have green lights ..
Think thats about it - if anyone has any input if i did anything wrong please let me know -

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